obi Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by whitedragon listen dude dont say that **** we werent brain washed. my faith come from the bible and i dont need some head up his ass scientist or liberal trying to make me show proof i do bleave God is real and i think you should think about your faith because theres no second chance at life should "****" , "ass", and "God" Be in the same Phrase? anyways, I think It's rather silly not to believe in God,But that is my opinion, And I respect everyone elses. READ YA BIBLE, FOO! AND STAY IN SCHOO! AND DRINK YA MILK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Tyrion Yes,that is SOOOO right.But,how do you know your right?How do you know that all other religions are wrong?How do you know you shouldnt rethink about your faith?All your proof is a bible and your gut feeling. BTW I believe in God,too. There is a such thing as "Faith" Tyrion. Thats what your "Gut-feeling" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime-Light Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 Ok, now that we've turned this into a debate on religion, i have some questions. First, if to not believe is bad, and we get sent to hell if we dont, why would god, in loving us unconditionally, even give us the choice, why would he allow us to not believe, and allow us to be condemned to a fiery hell? Why do poeple with other religionsor lack thereof even exist? Second, if god is all knowing, perfect, the alpha and the omega and all that, why does he need us? Why and how would a perfect being be lacking of anything, and therefore need to make it (man)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by obi-wan13 There is a such thing as "Faith" Tyrion. Thats what your "Gut-feeling" is. 11th commandment Thou shall not mock me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789101112 Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 It makes sense if you're educated on it. I go to a catholic college-preporatory high school and they do a good job teaching theology. I mean, elementary school teachers don't even have to be educated on the subject to teach it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime-Light Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 educate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by 123456789101112 It makes sense if you're educated on it. I go to a catholic college-preporatory high school and they do a good job teaching theology. I mean, elementary school teachers don't even have to be educated on the subject to teach it. I went to a Private Christian school for 5 years,so I'm am biased towards Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789101112 Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Lime-Light why would god, in loving us unconditionally, even give us the choice He gave us free-will because he loves us unconditionally. How would you like living without a choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Lime-light what do u believe in? if u dont minde me asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Lime-Light Ok, now that we've turned this into a debate on religion, i have some questions. First, if to not believe is bad, and we get sent to hell if we dont, why would god, in loving us unconditionally, even give us the choice, why would he allow us to not believe, and allow us to be condemned to a fiery hell? Why do poeple with other religionsor lack thereof even exist? Second, if god is all knowing, perfect, the alpha and the omega and all that, why does he need us? Why and how would a perfect being be lacking of anything, and therefore need to make it (man)? because we dont deserve his gift of eternal life but he gives it too us anyway if everything were fair we would all be burning in hell right now second God dosent need us where did you get that idea. he created us he dosent need anything and i dont know exactly why he created us God dose whatever he wishes whenever he wishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Lime-Light Ok, now that we've turned this into a debate on religion, i have some questions. First, if to not believe is bad, and we get sent to hell if we dont, why would god, in loving us unconditionally, even give us the choice, why would he allow us to not believe, and allow us to be condemned to a fiery hell? Why do poeple with other religionsor lack thereof even exist? Second, if god is all knowing, perfect, the alpha and the omega and all that, why does he need us? Why and how would a perfect being be lacking of anything, and therefore need to make it (man)? TO answer those questions: 1.God is Loving, loving so much to the point where he gives us a right to choose. An example: If your wife loved you so much, that she gave you the option to Cheat on her, and get away with it, or not to cheat on her. Would you want to honor her, and remain faithful? or would you want to run around on her, and take advantage? That is the kind of love God shows us. (we don't "Cheat" on God, THat is just the only example I could come up with.) and other religions exist because Of Satan. Yes, Satan. He Is a liar, and he manipulates people to do awful things. That is why you must shun Satan. 2.God Is all knowing, perfect, alpha, omega. Technically, God doesn't "need" us. God will always continue to exist. Whether you are with him or not is up to you. And he made Man in his own Image. Satan tried his best to ruin that image. hope that helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 ..hell was only for BIG sinners?Isnt there something in the middle where you have to do some hard work and time,but you get to go to heaven afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yom Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Lime-Light Ok, now that we've turned this into a debate on religion, i have some questions. First, if to not believe is bad, and we get sent to hell if we dont, why would god, in loving us unconditionally, even give us the choice, why would he allow us to not believe, and allow us to be condemned to a fiery hell? Why do poeple with other religionsor lack thereof even exist? this awnser is how i think and me only there mabey a few others but this is me talking. as i said be for god is just wating the show he is just relaxing and all. so he gives us the choice just to make it more inturesting yom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789101112 Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Tyrion ..hell was only for BIG sinners?Isnt there something in the middle where you have to do some hard work and time,but you get to go to heaven afterwards? purgatory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Tyrion ..hell was only for BIG sinners?Isnt there something in the middle where you have to do some hard work and time,but you get to go to heaven afterwards? no. You are referring to "Pergatory" It doesnt exist. Hell is for people who have not accepted jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. You could be the best person in the world and go to hell. You could be the awfullest and go to Heaven. Paul used to kill christians. He got saved, And I am 100% sure he is in Heaven now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Tyrion ..hell was only for BIG sinners?Isnt there something in the middle where you have to do some hard work and time,but you get to go to heaven afterwards? the cathlocs beleave that there is a place called pugatory that is in between heaven and hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by obi-wan13 no. You are referring to "Pergatory" It doesnt exist. Hell is for people who have not accepted jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. You could be the best person in the world and go to hell. You could be the awfullest and go to Heaven. Paul used to kill christians. He got saved, And I am 100% sure he is in Heaven now. Then what's the purpose of the ten commandments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 if you live a bad life you reward in heaven will not be as great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789101112 Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by obi-wan13 no. You are referring to "Pergatory" It doesnt exist. Yeah it does.... Where did all the people who died before Jesus came go than? BTW the only unforgivable sin is the total denial of the Holy Spirit meaning that the only sin that cannot be forgivin is if you don't want to be forgiven for it. Nice little tidbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by 123456789101112 Yeah it does.... Where did all the people who died before Jesus came go than? BTW the only unforgivable sin is the total denial of the Holy Spirit meaning that the only sin that cannot be forgivin is if you don't want to be forgiven for it. Nice little tidbit. look above you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789101112 Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Tyrion Then what's the purpose of the ten commandments? The ten commandments serve as a model of how we should live. Same thing with Jesus. One of His purposes was to be a model to show us how to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Tyrion, The Ten COmmandments Are a set of rules to go by. Whitedragon, Everyone in Heaven will be treated the same. 123456789101112, God came to People in many ways, Through angels, visions, and other things to tell people to believe in him. If they choose not to believe, It was at their own choosing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Belief in something like God goes back to man's eternal quest for immortality. That's the whole secret to life. Not dying. Nobody wants to die, save for radical Palestinian suicide bombers, and a few other people. I do believe in God, and it wasn't drilled into my head. I spent my teenage years as an atheist. I choose to believe. I figure what's the worse that could happen? And if it turns out my faith was misplaced, and I die, and nothing happens other than being burried, then no harm done. I don't hate you. In fact I'll say a little prayer for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by 123456789101112 The ten commandments serve as a model of how we should live. Same thing with Jesus. One of His purposes was to be a model to show us how to live. umm jesus wasent a model jesus died for all our sins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by CapNColostomy Belief in something like God goes back to man's eternal quest for immortality. That's the whole secret to life. Not dying. Nobody wants to die, save for radical Palestinian suicide bombers, and a few other people. I do believe in God, and it wasn't drilled into my head. I spent my teenage years as an atheist. I choose to believe. I figure what's the worse that could happen? And if it turns out my faith was misplaced, and I die, and nothing happens other than being burried, then no harm done. I don't hate you. In fact I'll say a little prayer for you. ok mr atheist what happens after you die. nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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