QuietSith Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF8&threadm=c0cc9e07.0206292156.34d729c1%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DJon%2BCarmack:%2Bdooming%2Bsociety%253F%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF8%26selm%3Dc0cc9e07.0206292156.34d729c1%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest King Andrei Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 That's so pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 Andrei, stop spamming...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest King Andrei Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Originally posted by BCanr2d2 Andrei, stop spamming...................... That's NOT what spamming was described of, in the Forum Rules. Hey, BCanr2d2, if there was an ignore button on this forum, I'd probably click on you first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDove Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Stanley Feinbaum The man needs to be taken out and shot with a Rocket Launcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest King Andrei Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Who IS he anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuietSith Posted July 1, 2002 Author Share Posted July 1, 2002 No idea, just some troll I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY_jmr1 Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 hehehe.. is this guy on crack or somthing? I really hope he was going for a farce... otherwise he needs some major medical help.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Truthful Liar Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Originally posted by Andrei555 That's NOT what spamming was described of, in the Forum Rules. Hey, BCanr2d2, if there was an ignore button on this forum, I'd probably click on you first. Actually there is a prefference for ignoring users. (somewhere, maybe they took it out *shrugs*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 That's pretty silly, first off the idea that that man is wasting his talent seems pretty uncapitalistic, I mean he's obviously making a good deal of money at what he does, probably more than he would as a world reknown genius , he's just taking his piece of the pie, like any good American.... Secondly I find the reasoning that playing games that are violent makes you a violent person. Why did these people play the games if they weren't violent people?... Were they pacifists who one day got a concusion and accidentally bought Quake thinking it was an interactive guide to not hurting people, and then played it and suddenly became angry animals? The people who play these games are clearly already violent, and frankly it's better that they release it there than releasing it in a schoolyard with an automatic weapon. You can suggest that it desensitizes them all you want, but I'm willing to bet that a soldier who played Quake before going into a real combat situation might tell you that it in no way made him more ready to deal with the realities of such violence. There are 'studies' that suggest that children who watch more violent programs, behave more violently, but I generally question the validity of them, because of some simple concepts. If I am a person who finds violence repugnant, and I watch a violent program on TV, I won't become more violent, I'll watch something else. Again, the children who watch violence on TV are already naturally violent, it isn't pushing out something that already isn't there. When you think about it, human beings are interestingly evolved animals, with animal instincts, and desires. Acts of violence are common throughout history, and it was often children who had to commit it, by fighting in wars, or protecting their homes. the fact that it's a few hundred years later does not mean that those desires and instincts have abated, and some people are unable to deal with that in an effective manner. I would suggest that violent games and violent movies are not the vector, but rather a symptom of a troubled mind (if they are taken to extremes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Originally posted by Andrei555 That's NOT what spamming was described of, in the Forum Rules. Hey, BCanr2d2, if there was an ignore button on this forum, I'd probably click on you first. There IS a ignore list,click on his profile,and at the bottom you should see put (name) onto your ignore list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zindell Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Why doesn't this guy go work for like nasa or something so we don't need to waste time reading his drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Angel Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 What the heck is wrong with that guy? I think John Carmack is an awesome game developer (only problem is that most, if not all, of his games, have practically no storyline, but I don't think that's his department anyway.) I've been playing Doom since it came out when I was 6, along with childhood-time favorite Mortal Kombat, and most people at my school think I'm so calm, cool, and unviolent that if the PA came on and said the school would be nuked in 30 seconds, I'd simply continue with what I'm doing. I think games have the opposite effect. It lets you take out your anger on simulated people or bots, so you won't have to do it for real. That's what I do, and when someone picks a fight on me or cusses me out or whatever, I let it pass and not ruin my day (I probably wouldn't be able to beat the guy up, anyway.) And, in the end, people think I'm a cool guy, 'cause I never let anything bust up my groove. The most I get really miffed at is probably in these forums how Darth Sidious is losing in the Sidious vs. Yoda poll, how I'm not getting a lot of replies in the MP Announcer Mod thread, and how I can never get a date. So, as you can see, my problems are pretty trivial (except maybe the last one.) All I need now to be the happiest man in the world is you checking out the MP Announcer Mod thread here: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=653773 , voting for Darth Sidious here: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=653796 , going out with me (if you're a girl), or making a skin of whoever wrote that dumb article so I can either frag him with the Redeemer in Unreal Tournament or saber his ass in JKII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Why doesn't this guy go work for like nasa or something so we don't need to waste time reading his drivel. NASA? How is that gonna do anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zindell Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Originally posted by wassup NASA? How is that gonna do anything? If you had clicked on the link posted in the original post and read the article, you would learn that the writer said that John Carmack was wasting his talents and should be working for NASA. My reference was in jest, stating that maybe the writer should go work for nasa instead so we don't have to read his crappy articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 What I dont get,is the poster said that he was making Violent games,but that he would be better working in military.Uhuh,which does more killing-A organazation which is mainly about war and killing,or a game that let's people focus their anger,but helps makes(in a small way) a couple killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD-LeyAmas Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 "Yes mommy, it was DOOM that made me put Kitty in the microwave." "Yes teacher, it was DOOM that made me stab Bobby with my pen." "Yes Your Honor, it was DOOM that made me blow up that bus with a rocket launcher. Oh, and music, too." Okay, yeah... I am so tired of hearing people say things like this. REALLY tired. If they had their way, we'd be doing nothing but complex computations and database entry on computers. Maybe playing Teletubby games. Maybe, if that's not too violent for them. So a big "____ you" to all those who would blame games for the handful of psychos out there. From the bottom of my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zindell Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Yes well that's kinda why they made the movie 15 minutes so people could laugh at how stupid an idea that was. And then feel stpid for actually believing it when they originally heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD-LeyAmas Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Yeah, you got that one right, Zindell. The only truly sad part is: "A cousin of mine has been in therapy for 6 months after he lost a "death match" and became catatonic." Gee, I hope I can beat someone so bad on a game that I cause them to go catatonic. Someday, maybe. Yes, turn them into a vegetable.... exxccellent... yesss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 If someone would've been in therapy for 6 months because of losing a frag match,what if he loses badly in sports?Will the same thing happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zindell Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Did you know that you can pose someone who is catatonic and they will stay like that... like if you put their arm up it would stay up till you moved it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Kool...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zindell Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Yeah I thought that was kinda cool too, so I thought I'd share. Anyways it's 4:30 and I think I'm gonne get some sleep before the massive amounts Of drinking I shall endure today being that it is canada day. Talk to you later Spam King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chastan Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 FYI....he mixed up Direct3d and OpenGL... don't know if it's intentional as maybe it's not a serious post (hopefully!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Angel Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Yeah, I thought it was the other way around, too, considering that last X-mas I bought the Quake Collection (Q1, 2, and3) and was mad because all three games relied majorly on OpenGL crap. My card sucks with OpenGL, and I hate it (yes, I know JKII is OpenGL, therefore it runs so bad I can't play the single player, and not much multi either. Thankfully, they invented the friend's house.) Anyway, whoever wrote that article sucks. He sucks bad. He sucks long, hard c-... well, I'm not sure if I can say that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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