Darth Knight Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Ok when R2D2 has saved everyones life in the movie. This is directed at when he saves that nabbo starfighter thingy that everyone is on. If he wouldn't of: Qui Gon woul of died(effect: no darth vader), obi wan (on of the greatest jedi, but hey), queen amidala(sp?), some others too well see there would be no darth vader so the empire may not have conqured the jedi, but it depends on how big of a role he plays in ep3 So it comes so the question: Is R2D2 a blessing or a curse, the empire my not have risen if it were not for this droid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 yes but you could say if it wasn't for qui-gonn making obi-wan train anakin there would be no vader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Knight Posted August 24, 2002 Author Share Posted August 24, 2002 yeah but if they would have been dead we wouldn't have had to worry about it or if they had keep a spare hyper drive and stuff, no tatoine, no anakin, no pod race, no darth vader, no empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-[MotU]-Lyger|=- Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 if padme died, no.... luke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Palpatine didn't expect for Amidala to escape... all any of them did that helped Palpatine in TPM was that Amidala was the one who called for the vote of no-confidence in chancellor Valorum. If she hadn't done it, Palpatine would've found someone else to. Had Amidala died on Naboo, he would've been able to say that the Chancellor didn't act fast enough in the interest of his homeworld, and then just think of the sympathy vote he'd have gotten. No, Palpatine would've become chancellor regardless of the actions of any of the people aboard that ship, and then he'd have still had his hand in creating the Sepratist Movement and instigating a war between that movement and the Republic. He'd have become Emperor, and there would have been no Chosen One to defeat him. R2's a hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psionic Jedi Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 C3PO would be so lonely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Omega Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 3P0 could just find another counterpart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Knight Posted August 24, 2002 Author Share Posted August 24, 2002 he probaly would hve never got off that planet...how did he? did we see that in atoc? man i can't remember i hve to get that dvd soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CagedCrado Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Vader killed the jedi, if the jedi were around the emperor would get owned, in fact yoda alone crushed the empire by ramming the death star into a planet in an EU book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 yeah, and boba miraculously survived the sarlaac and luke makes a new jedi order blah blah blah jackass y did you bring EU into this argument? tell me why, EU has ABSO-****ING-LUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MOVIES!!!!! THIS IS A MOVIE ARGUMENT AND EU DOES NOT BELONG HERE!!!!! WHY DON'T PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 ep2 Anakin, chill... he's talking about the Infinities comic... it is EU, but it's conscious it's EU... it's basically a "what-if" comic... what if Luke's torpedos had malfunctioned and not destroyed the Death Star, in this case. And Yoda does rule all in that comic. But if it wasn't Anakin, it would've been Dooku who led the charge against the Jedi... the Jedi would be overwhelmed by the Clone Army. The Sith know what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit fisto JK Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 um ok that was a little off topic but true even if they hadnt gotten off of naboo there would still be maul and palpatine with a giant army of clones (saying that palpatine would have been elected). so realy it dosent matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Jedi Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 But ep2 Anakin is right... sort of... I think... Let's not factor in the EU. The movie is canon. The movie is what spawned EU. The movie is the source of the franchise in its entirety. Let's agree to acknowledge that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 I completely agree that the EU shouldn't infringe on movie debates... but the Infinities comic has no bearing anywhere, not even on the rest of the EU... so it really doesn't matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CagedCrado Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 the point is yoda could have stopped the empire you idiot, thats what would have happened if there was no luke destroying the deathstar. BUT yoda when there was luke didnt do anything becasue he wanted the jedi order to continue, dooku is rather innept compared to vader, maul wasnt really much of a jedi, just good with sabers, Vader was the only reason the emperor succeeded, and the jedi had clones too, or atleast im positive they had something, and if the clones attacked the jedi at the beginning the people would be very suspicious and over throw palpatine anyway, and the jedi could take out an innept fool like dooku. Also EU is the future of starwars, after ep 3 that is the end, lucas has spoken, movies and EU are all the same, all star wars, all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teutonicknight Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 We needed R2. If there were not r2d2, there would be no vader, and no one to "bring the force back into balence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Originally posted by CagedCrado the point is yoda could have stopped the empire you idiot, thats what would have happened if there was no luke destroying the deathstar. BUT yoda when there was luke didnt do anything becasue he wanted the jedi order to continue, dooku is rather innept compared to vader, maul wasnt really much of a jedi, just good with sabers, Vader was the only reason the emperor succeeded, and the jedi had clones too, or atleast im positive they had something, and if the clones attacked the jedi at the beginning the people would be very suspicious and over throw palpatine anyway, and the jedi could take out an innept fool like dooku. Also EU is the future of starwars, after ep 3 that is the end, lucas has spoken, movies and EU are all the same, all star wars, all good. don't call me an idiot assmonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JrKASperov Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Anakin, what is wrong? Did your parents give you to little attention? Have you suffered a serious traumatising event? Tell it me, you seem frustrated:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Jedi Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Heh... assmonkey... I can't explain it, but that sounds absolutely hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Originally posted by JrKASperov Anakin, what is wrong? Did your parents give you to little attention? Have you suffered a serious traumatising event? Tell it me, you seem frustrated:D ya know, it's this whole "taking a trip towards the dark side thing" it's got me stressed out, i have to knock up a senator, kill thousands of jedi, fight my old master, and spend the rest of my life in a black suit cuz that jerk cut me up too much which will make me sound all wierd and ****, not to mention the lack of sun, so yeah, i'm stressed:p plus the fact that i have no right arm anymore, that sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CagedCrado Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Ep2 Anakin your an idiot, vader is cooler than anakin, in fact vader is the 2nd coolest character in star wars and anakin is the worst. Anakin is some fag that for some reason gets the only hot girl. Vader is a kick ass villain with tons of cool lines AND he elliminated all of the jedi except yoda and those after his death, he even killed one of the most powerful sith lords ever to exist. Anakin is just a fag (not the member of the forums named ep 2 anakin), look how gay anakin looks and look how gay he talks. Anakin=homo Vader=Very cool villain anakin+loss of gay organs + turning evil and getting some kick ass armor= Extremly cool character named Darth Vader that owns all jedi and plays a very large role in subdoing infedels throughout the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pad Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 i disagree, anakin is not the worst sw character what do u have against him and why? (tought u had a chance with padme? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CagedCrado Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 shes the second worst, her hotness drug her from last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 no one wants to hear you talk anymore, at least SOME people agree with ME so y don't you go sit in a corner some where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PODguy87 Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 Originally posted by ep2 Anakin no one wants to hear you talk anymore, at least SOME people agree with ME so y don't you go sit in a corner some where? TELL HIM ANI!!! ha ha werd man Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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