Dagobahn Eagle Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Yes, I'm back, and staying for a while. Anyway, here's the debate of the month. Do you think there should be full, total press freedom? Or should it be limited to protect private people, even if it violates the local constitution or constitution's counterpart? I think there should be a relatively free Press Freedom, but I have one simple idea to protect private people: Whenever the press wants to write/broadcast something involving private households, they have to ask the involved person(s) in the household for permission before they publish stuff on the person(s). Sorry about the formality . That is, if, for example, some girl is kidnapped again, the press can only write "girl wearing this and that missing from someplace over in the x neighbourhood. Call xxx-xxx-xxx if you have any information. :p" Most countries actually stick to being relevant-only, or in soldier-terms, sticking to a need-to-know-basis . So if the press wants to film the house of the family missing the girl, or wants to interview anyone in the house (which the US/UK media always do), they have to gain permission from the residents first. If a criminal is arrested, the media may film the arrest, but only without giving away the identity of the person being arrested (for example, by pasting that black stripe over his eyes or "blurring out" his head), like in the pic below. This for the person to be able to live normally out in public if he's found innocent. Also, to protect our Constitutional right of Privacy. What are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Homer Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 I whole-heartedly agree with you on this one, Eagle...under the U.S. Constitution, we are gauranteed a right to privacy...others may waive about the freedom of the press & information, etc. etc. etc., but when does it stop? I remember a saying, "Your rights end where my nose begins." Meaning, you have the right to do anything you want, until you injure or infringe upon the rights of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eets Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Originally posted by Dagobahn Eagle If a criminal is arrested, the media may film the arrest, but only without giving away the identity of the person being arrested (for example, by pasting that black stripe over his eyes or "blurring out" his head), like in the pic below. IT'S GEORGE LUCAS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygomaticus Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 hmm, he's put on some weight since i last saw him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young David Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 Funny that you mention it, because today they released a list of all the countries and their ranking in press freedom ... The first worldwide index of press freedom has some surprises for Western democracies. The United States ranks below Costa Rica and Italy scores lower than Benin. The five countries with least press freedom are North Korea, China, Burma, Turkmenistan and Bhutan. Surprises among Western democracies : US below Costa Rica and Italy below Benin And now, on with the list: Rank, Country, Note 1 Finland 0,50 - Iceland 0,50 - Norway 0,50 - Netherlands 0,50 5 Canada 0,75 6 Ireland 1,00 7 Germany 1,50 - Portugal 1,50 - Sweden 1,50 10 Denmark 3,00 11 France 3,25 12 Australia 3,50 - Belgium 3,50 14 Slovenia 4,00 15 Costa Rica 4,25 - Switzerland 4,25 17 United States 4,75 18 Hong Kong 4,83 19 Greece 5,00 20 Ecuador 5,50 21 Benin 6,00 - United Kingdom 6,00 - Uruguay 6,00 24 Chile 6,50 - Hungary 6,50 26 South Africa 7,50 - Austria 7,50 - Japan 7,50 29 Spain 7,75 - Poland 7,75 31 Namibia 8,00 32 Paraguay 8,50 33 Croatia 8,75 - El Salvador 8,75 35 Taïwan 9,00 36 Mauritius 9,50 - Peru 9,50 38 Bulgaria 9,75 39 South Korea 10,50 40 Italy 11,00 41 Czech Republic 11,25 42 Argentina 12,00 43 Bosnia and Herzegovia 12,50 - Mali 12,50 45 Romania 13,25 46 Cape Verde 13,75 47 Senegal 14,00 48 Bolivia 14,50 49 Nigeria 15,50 - Panama 15,50 51 Sri Lanka 15,75 52 Uganda 17,00 53 Niger 18,50 54 Brazil 18,75 55 Ivory Coast 19,00 56 Lebanon 19,67 57 Indonesia 20,00 58 Comoros 20,50 - Gabon 20,50 60 Yugoslavia 20,75 - Seychelles 20,75 62 Tanzania 21,25 63 Central African Republic 21,50 64 Gambia 22,50 65 Madagascar 22,75 - Thailand 22,75 67 Bahrain 23,00 - Ghana 23,00 69 Congo 23,17 70 Mozambique 23,50 71 Cambodia 24,25 72 Burundi 24,50 - Mongolia 24,50 - Sierra Leone 24,50 75 Kenya 24,75 - Mexico 24,75 77 Venezuela 25,00 78 Kuwait 25,50 79 Guinea 26,00 80 India 26,50 81 Zambia 26,75 82 Palestinian National Authority 27,00 83 Guatemala 27,25 84 Malawi 27,67 85 Burkina Faso 27,75 86 Tajikistan 28,25 87 Chad 28,75 88 Cameroun 28,83 89 Morocco 29,00 - Philippines 29,00 - Swaziland 29,00 92 Israel 30,00 93 Angola 30,17 94 Guinea-Bissau 30,25 95 Algeria 31,00 96 Djibouti 31,25 97 Togo 31,50 98 Kyrgyzstan 31,75 99 Jordan 33,50 - Turkey 33,50 101 Azerbaijan 34,50 - Egypt 34,50 103 Yemen 34,75 104 Afghanistan 35,50 105 Sudan 36,00 106 Haiti 36,50 107 Ethiopia 37,50 - Rwanda 37,50 109 Liberia 37,75 110 Malaysia 37,83 111 Brunei 38,00 112 Ukraine 40,00 113 Democratic Republic of the Congo 40,75 114 Colombia 40,83 115 Mauritania 41,33 116 Kazakhstan 42,00 117 Equatorial Guinea 42,75 118 Bangladesh 43,75 119 Pakistan 44,67 120 Uzbekistan 45,00 121 Russia 48,00 122 Iran 48,25 - Zimbabwe 48,25 124 Belarus 52,17 125 Saudi Arabia 62,50 126 Syria 62,83 127 Népal 63,00 128 Tunisia 67,75 129 Lybia 72,50 130 Irak 79,00 131 Viet Nam 81,25 132 Eritrea 83,67 133 Laos 89,00 134 Cuba 90,25 135 Bhutan 90,75 136 Turkmenistan 91,50 137 Burma 96,83 138 China 97,00 139 North Korea 97,50 Guess who's on top huh Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfnshannon Posted October 25, 2002 Share Posted October 25, 2002 I get pissy with the press. I mean if my child was missing or found dead I would not want to be ATTACKED by the news crews standing outside on my street. I'd just want to be left alone to grieve and I wish people would have some RESPECT for their fellow human beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagobahn Eagle Posted October 25, 2002 Author Share Posted October 25, 2002 Leave it to a female to put it straight . Thanks, STTCT. Also remember Princess Diana. IT'S GEORGE LUCAS!! Yeah, in an article of a guy found running an illegal porn store as a side-job ROFL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jatt13 Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 i agree that the press should have to get permission first, but i'm a little split on some things. i mean, like sttct said, i wouldn't want to be hounded by the press if something happened to me, but i do want to know what happens in some cases. so, really, for me it depends on what the story is and how far the media pries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagobahn Eagle Posted October 26, 2002 Author Share Posted October 26, 2002 i agree that the press should have to get permission first (...) but i do want to know what happens in some cases. so, really, for me it depends on what the story is and how far the media pries. That depends on. I think the press should ask for permission before: [*] Broadcasting or printing information in a way that gives away names, address, or other information about people who have not broken the law (if, say, the sniper is arrested I say we should get to know who he is), especially if the information is irrelevant (there is a 99,9% chance that the mom of an abducted girl has nothing to do with the abduction -she just happens to be related to the girl). [*] If the person(s) is/are relevant, for example, if the girl gets back and they want to interview her. Actually, a classmate of mine got lost in the mountains last year. When he was found, the media had started to arrive, only to be told by the police and his parents to leave, which they actually did. Without permission, the press just put: "A 13-year old boy got lost in the x mountains walking his dog. He was found at 3 o' clock by a search party". If you know that, you know what happened. That's really all you need to know. You may argue that the cops violated their freedoms or something, but really, the press got all the relevant[/i ]info they needed. The press should, however, be allowed to write about whatever they want to write on politics, as long as it's not offensive, untrue, or violates privacy (but off course, if a minister proposes a new bill, it'd be only right to tell people she did, not just "some minister". I'll buy that:)) Keyword: Ethics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 My gf is a reporter for a small tv station and we get into "battles" over topics such as this. I think that the press should have certain freedoms for info....however, I think it should only be on a "need to know basis." I don't believe it very important to reveal details of a particular thing unless the ppl involved want the info to be made public. The press should cover just the general details IMO. Now how that's decided and who makes the decisions is most definitely not up to me !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagobahn Eagle Posted October 27, 2002 Author Share Posted October 27, 2002 To me, papers are something I read to get the facts to make up my opinion, not to read what people think about it. If I want to know what people think about it, I'll ask people I know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clefo Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 I never really thought the US would be numero uno in press freedom, I mean in the 1970s there were these secret newspapers called the "Pentagon Papers" which had all the stuff about the shady things the Nixon Administration was doing. Of course, in true American fashon, they tried to shut them down.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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