BloodRiot Posted December 10, 2002 Posted December 10, 2002 Hey there! Yun is my first work for the DF2: JK Mod. It seems ironic that im now working to recreate the very first game I ever modeled and skinned for. Well.. as far as modeling concerns... I'm just about done. The only things I'll be messing with is minor bugs if I happen tocome across any. As of now it seems a-ok. I'm not sure if Yun has a tunic flap hanging on his back as he does on his front... that is also something that I may need to add. I think he hasn't.. and I had lil luck finding reference pics that shed some light on the subject...as of now im gonna follow my suspicion that he hasn't. Im gonna post the usual WIP pics. If any of you happens to have good reference photos please tell me of any errors you may find and please send them over to me or direct me to them if you be so kind. Cheers
Hellfire Jedi Posted December 10, 2002 Posted December 10, 2002 Wuv ur other models m8 you and Absath are an unbeatable team... but one other team is getting good Madjai and Inbred you guys gotta catch up!!!!! Well i think this is a great model m8 good luck with it... Also... What program do you use and when did you start this? Hellfire
BloodRiot Posted December 10, 2002 Author Posted December 10, 2002 Hehe... Im working on the same team as Madjai. We are just assigned diferent jobs. He has done Jerec and Maw... im doing Yun now and I think i will be doing Sariss next. I got a bit out of practice but I'm catching up. Im gonna start UVmapping the model for Absath to skin it while I attach the model to the skeleton and do all that boring part about making new models Anyway thx for the compliment. I started modeling on the notepad lol... DF2: JK 3do files were scripts containing the coordinates for the vertexes... im sure this one doesnt count lol. Ok serioisly now... my first real 3d environment was milkshape 3d when I did some work for Vampire the Masquerade Redemption. After that It was 3d Studio Max all the way.
Toonces Posted December 10, 2002 Posted December 10, 2002 It's great to see you around here again Blood I can't wait to see what goodies you two come up with now
BloodRiot Posted December 10, 2002 Author Posted December 10, 2002 Thx Toonces. I'll be mostly doing Dark Jedi fora bit I heard you made some breakthroughs with facial animation. Gotta tell me how it's done... I left before people started using that Anyway... I went to the trouble of downloading a Smacker Player and saw the Yun Containing cutscenes from the original game. No Back Tunic Flap. Cheers
Toonces Posted December 10, 2002 Posted December 10, 2002 That's cool, I'll be very intrested to see what you do with Sariss The facial animations are very easy to setup, It's just nobody tried to do it until I did so with Palpatine. There are 7 bones, jaw, lblip2, ltlip2, rblip2, rtlip2, ceyebrow, reye, leye. They are the only facial bones that carcass will compile
§ith Lord Posted December 10, 2002 Posted December 10, 2002 The model looks great Bloodriot, cant wait to see it released. And welcome back.
Luuke Posted December 10, 2002 Posted December 10, 2002 the model looks good so far, but i think it's something wrong with it's proportions. the arms and legs are too thin, so it looks unnatural! other than that it looks perfect to me!
BloodRiot Posted December 11, 2002 Author Posted December 11, 2002 Ok.. UVmapping done and sent over to Absath. He'll post a few pics as soon as there's some work done. Cheers.
Hellfire Jedi Posted December 11, 2002 Posted December 11, 2002 Wow Riot you work quick and f***ing good i sware I cant wait to see what Abby does hellfire
BloodRiot Posted December 12, 2002 Author Posted December 12, 2002 Ok... the model has been compiled for the first time. The usual animating bugs... as soon as they are all corrected, my part in this model is done.
Mex Posted December 12, 2002 Posted December 12, 2002 Nice work BloodRiot, looks very good, but how did you manage to do that so fast?
BloodRiot Posted December 12, 2002 Author Posted December 12, 2002 Flanders: I guess practice makes perfect. Modeling itself is not very hard for me. I can do it pretty easily. For instance, the mandalorians took me over a mounth to complete, I was learning how to mod for this game at that time. Tyrion took me almost a couple of weeks. Big diference. Last Friday I made the basic human outline. Then I took the weekend off 'cuz I have other hobbies such as the band. I started modeling Yun on monday. It's thursday and it's almost complete. Well... to be honest... im sure that if this was a full time job or something... and using the same basic human outline.. I could prep a model in a day. 8 hours are more than enough to do everything providing there are no setbacks or bugs involved. Of course I'm lazy and I like to take a few breaks now and then to play some games. Anyway... if you got freetime on your hands... and you are confortable with modeling... this is done pretty darn fast... it's not as long a job as many think. Also dont forget that a lot fo time is for beta test the model and correct the minor bugs. I usually take the time to correct every lil imperfection about animation as possible. Those shoulders are real SOBs. Terror: huh? stunted? plz explain! I do not know the meaning of "stunted" in this context.
t3rr0r Posted December 13, 2002 Posted December 13, 2002 Originally posted by BloodRiot Terror: huh? stunted? plz explain! I do not know the meaning of "stunted" in this context. i think it's his torso... anyway, some part of the proportions looks off a bit. i can't really say what it is, because i just can't think of it.
Mest Posted December 13, 2002 Posted December 13, 2002 i also think that yun's arms and legs are too skinny in proportion to the rest of him. I also think his body needs to be "longer". his waist is too high up.
BloodRiot Posted December 13, 2002 Author Posted December 13, 2002 His waist is right where it should be.. i checked the skeleton. Heck I built this model on top of the skeleton and even compard to other models. It's probably an ilusion created by the belt. Yun has a belt that resembles the weighlifters belts... really wide. In his front.. the belt almost covers all his abdominals. Also.. if your arms are alongside of the body.. the elbows are roughfly at the same height as the waist... check the full body pictures to confirm it is right. I want to see how he ends up after it's skinned... cuz the rendering system is a bit weird... things look a bit diferent in modview. But I will keep every lil advice and sugestion in my mind in case you boys are right *Arms and legs too skinny. *Torso may be out of porportion (this one may be the cause of the first). *Waist may be to high. There is no point of no return here.. just more hours of work
BloodRiot Posted December 18, 2002 Author Posted December 18, 2002 Well... im having a few issues... I imported a jedi trainer head so I could do the facial animation better... that part is a bit dificult to model cuz of the eyes and inside of the mouth... those parts I imported must have some sort of thing going on.. maybe they dont like Yun's body or something and they insist on being out of place. In max they are placed perfectly.. but when I export... they go berserk... the rest of the model is just fine. I have to get that done... and Absath should be finishing the skin anytime soon.
Mest Posted December 30, 2002 Posted December 30, 2002 so how is yun comming along? did absath finish the skin?
Emon Posted January 1, 2003 Posted January 1, 2003 If you have your JK CD 1 still, go get the Smacker player from http://www.radgametools.com. You can then watch the JK cutscenes right off the CD, they're the best reference source you can get.
Mest Posted January 6, 2003 Posted January 6, 2003 i dont usually bump topics but i feel this one deserves one. BUMP
BloodRiot Posted January 7, 2003 Author Posted January 7, 2003 Thx... Modeling's just about done... I've been waiting for the skin to correct the minor bugs. 'till i get the skin this model is stalled. Well... I'm no one's boss...yet ,p so i wont be hasting Absath. I'm sure he's busy with his personal life. As a secondary project I'm doing Dark Side Kyle, the modeling is done also and the skin job has been assigned to Baena from the TC mod im working with. I expect it to take less time. I'm sorry I havent updated very often but really, there's nothing new to report i'm afraid. Well, I hope I can put an end to this thread and be able to start a new one soon. Cheers.
Mest Posted February 20, 2003 Posted February 20, 2003 i feel the need to bump this again. it is just too good a model to let slip away.
Zippo85 Posted February 25, 2003 Posted February 25, 2003 Im a rookie skinne from the Jedi Knight 2 Enhance mod. And i am curently working on a skin for the Yun model by BloodRiot. I think it is comming along just fine. i would appriciate some response on it. Note: this is a WIP and i havent started on the hair, nor the hands yet http://www.geocities.com/rjurs85/wip.jpg
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