Mandalorian54 Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 The ultimate price Jesus paid was experiencing hell for eternity in a single instant, and being forsaken by GOD the Father. but Jesus didn't spend three days in hell!?! where did you hear that, It's not in the Bible. mabee the Jehovah witness Bible. But I don't know anything about that. Christians are like muslims in that sence, we believe dieing sends you to a better place. and other relions. Then what are you? Pfah - it doesn't matter anyway, every Christian group has done terrible non-Christian deeds, except the ones created too late and thus missed their chance when the religion was at its highest stage. well people of religions and christianity who do those deeds are disobaying rules of their religions, so don't exacly count. you cant say someone is a christian if they once were and arnt anymore because they are doing wrong. you can't judge other people by the actions of a few. This is only what you believe. The crusaders believed they were good Christians as well. You're only the best, most holy and devout follower in your own eyes. In hundred years, Christians will look back at you and declare you bad, ugly followers for not trying to stop the racism and poverty in the world, and for slavishly interpreting the Bible literally and insisting on the Genesis being factual description Well there are many different kinds of christians, and it also works the opposite like in Joan of Archs sake. some christian groops do that kind of thing like not believing certain things to be factual and stuff like that, but there is always groops that have constantly believed the same things. and the world will be destroyed soon anyway, I don't know how soon though, could be tonight could be in a hundread years. You see, with religion, everyone thinks they're right, and as soon as they think it, they know they are. And none can convince them otherwise. thats not true, I know lots of people who were converted from other religions. In theory, no you shouldn't do it. In practice you'd do it if you were pressed enough, as history clearly shows. you have to judge evryone individually. In roman days many did not, mabee YOU should check your history book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Originally posted by Mandolorian54 The ultimate price Jesus paid was experiencing hell for eternity in a single instant, and being forsaken by GOD the Father. but Jesus didn't spend three days in hell!?! where did you hear that, It's not in the Bible. mabee the Jehovah witness Bible. But I don't know anything about that. The Apostles Creed...... I believe in God, the Father Almighty, maker of Heaven and Earth And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten son our Lord, who was concieved by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under pontious Pilot, was crucified dead and buried. on the third day, he rose again from the dead and so on....... There may be mistakes there........i haven't attended traditional service in a long time so i haven't had to say it....... (I'm a part of the United Church of Christ...not a Jehovah Witness) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Well, first off, Christ died in an extremely painful way, and then he spent his first three days in Hell, being tormented by Satan, before he rose and went to heaven. So? why does 3 days even begin to compare being in heaven for eternity? I'd pay that price for what I got in return easily. And no, we christians don't really believe we die.....we will have immortal life in heaven with God. I didnt mean that type of die. I meant actually mortally dieing. You know,your mind get's decayed and you turn into a skeleton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arreat Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Im not afraid of not existing cause of only one point life SUX. Though i still live life to its fullest potential i would like to have a dangerous occupation just so i can escape reality! ( yep, i actually look forward to death)But having a dangerous job also may mean saving lives which then would make up for the fact that i wanna die LOL, which then could prevent me from falling in the fiery depths of hell and eventually or hopefully i may end up in a better place, most likely purgatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted January 21, 2003 Author Share Posted January 21, 2003 Originally posted by Mandolorian54 well people of religions and christianity who do those deeds are disobaying rules of their religions, so don't exacly count. you cant say someone is a christian if they once were and arnt anymore because they are doing wrong. you can't judge other people by the actions of a few. A few!?! So, you're saying that no Christians existed in the middle ages? and the world will be destroyed soon anyway, I don't know how soon though, could be tonight could be in a hundread years. Eh? Says who? Is that some fantasy you just made up? Sure, and everyone in my neighborhood are in vampires. Give me some evidence and factual predictions of this vague prophecy. thats not true, I know lots of people who were converted from other religions. Sure. But does it happen on a daily basis? Is it something that every person does several times during their lives? No. it happens very, very rarely. you have to judge evryone individually. In roman days many did not, mabee YOU should check your history book. No. I do not have to judge everyone individually. I need only look at the organizations and their actions. Look at communism. It's great in theory. Every communist I'm sure is a good person at heart. Is it a great organization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted January 21, 2003 Author Share Posted January 21, 2003 I'm surprised that nearly none have answered the original question: Are you afraid of not existing? And no, of course I don't mean you go around scared or wondering about it everyday. I'm simply asking if you are at heart afraid of not being. Not dying, the process, but simply being unconscious, selfless and nothing. Similar to sleeping and the time before your birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubatus Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Originally posted by C'jais I'm surprised that nearly none have answered the original question: Are you afraid of not existing? And no, of course I don't mean you go around scared or wondering about it everyday. I'm simply asking if you are at heart afraid of not being. Not dying, the process, but simply being unconscious, selfless and nothing. Similar to sleeping and the time before your birth. I have asked that question of several persons and it has surprised me at every turn how they lacked to see the simple rationality of the question. Understanding the concept would probably come about better by rephrasing the question to:"Would you regret it if you had never come into existence?" Now, the question is irrational, because of course you wouldn't, because you wouldn't be in existence to regret not existing. That's the rationale of the question; how can you fear not existing? Yet people do (irrationally). I've been given answers like "I don't wanna miss out on things!"....Why care when you're not around - at all!? Then again, some people misunderstand the concept of non-existence offhand; they put it equal to simply being dead, i.e. being non-coporal but still having a consciousness on some level, presumably spiritually. Yet, after I explain to them thoroughly that by non-existent I mean total lack of consciousness/awareness, they still give me the same answer(s). Personally, I don't fear non-existence, I yearn for it. I hope dying is the ultimate off-switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinWalker Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Matter can neither be created nor destroyed. I'll never cease to exist. I can only cease to be aware of my exisitance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homuncul Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Are you afraid of not existing? No, couldn't care less about it. I focus on what's here and now, maybe some years ahead of me, never look back. At least this is what I feel need to do to prosper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 28, 2003 Share Posted October 28, 2003 Originally posted by SkinWalker Matter can neither be created nor destroyed. I'll never cease to exist. I can only cease to be aware of my exisitance. That makes me very happy that I'll never have to worry about anything I face in life. As I said before I welcome death. I don't believe in an after life, but it would be nice. Sorry if when I said that before, that it wasn't very clear. I have a habbit of not making sense the first time I say something (that's why sometimes I repeat things :\ ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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