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"In Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic you can infiltrate the most evil organization in the galaxy and learn their dark powers. You can purchase a murderous droid interpreter to help uncover the secret history of Tatooine, or descend into the depths of the galaxy's deepest ocean to uncover something so terrible that it has driven all of the previous explorers insane. There are more than one hundred unique quests in the game, with professional actors in Hollywood providing all of the voices. There are over 250 000 words of recorded dialogue in Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, but when you include the item, force and skill

descriptions the word count balloons past half a million."

 

am i suppose 2 clap? n now another thing 2 look 4ward 2

 

"Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic has more movies than all of our previous games put together! The movies range from enormous 'Return of the Jedi' style space battles, to intimate romantic interludes."

 

maybe it's the main character n bastila getting 2gether. but jedi is not suppose 2 fall in love rite?

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Wow, when I hear news like this, it almost inspires me to break down the doors to Bioware and get a copy.

 

:D

 

Of course, I'll have to wait for the PC one....

 

:(

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You mean, in the Old Jedi Order?

 

To be honest, I have yet to read the Tales of the Jedi saga (stories takes place a few before KotR), but I've ordered them. From what I can remember, one of the heroines, Nomi Sunrider was married to a Jedi Knight. Later on, her husband was murdered and she took upon his lightsaber to defend her daughter. I'm not sure, but later on, there was a possible romance between her and Ulic Qel-Droma later on.

 

That's the only one I can think up at the moment. Surely there is someone else in here who has read the Tales of the Jedi comics and give you better examples than I can.

 

(although I might give you a better summary later on... I just ordered the Sith War paperback)

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/Me whispers in conspiratorial tones/

I think the EU assumed Jedi can marry/have kiddies, but George Lucas has come out and said in Episode II that it's a big no-no. As you can imagine I'm sure some party's were very unhappy with this story development as it made much of the EU look a bit silly (though maybe not as silly as the history of Boba-Fett and a few other back-story explanations which came out of the prequels with serious continuity issues).

I'm guessing they've come up with a cover-story, but I don't know what it is.

 

To be honest though in my opinion (honestly not trying to offend anyone here) it seems to make more sense after watching the prequels that Jedi don't get married or have children. I think it is meant to be considered very dangerous : Obi-Wan (in return of the Jedi) - "The Emperor knew, as I did, if Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him. "

I'm guessing Jedi children come out unnaturally powerful or something (perhaps very unbalanced??). Well, maybe. But it just seems silly that an event which is so emphasised in Episode II as of being of such vast and I'm guessing, unusual significance, should be considered commonplace before and after the events.

 

Anyway I'm sure that will all be explained in Episode III, and I'm guessing, little to the satisfaction of the EU. I should maybe also add, that I'm very happy that KOTOR has a romance plot, because I think it makes the game a lot more interesting.

So I have double-standards :) Sue me.

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*chuckle* funny how I, indeed, always seem to forget that there already were Jedi marriages before AotC. The EU has managed to cover most of them. For example, Ki Adi mundi (the guy with the freakin' long head) was a married man(to *6* women) before AotC. After AotC was released, the Essential Guide to Characters explains this little tidbit by saying that his race has a low birthrate, and thus he was allowed to marry.

 

And sure, we also have lotsa other characters who are married. Most of these are Jedi Knights or Masters tho'. It's probably that the council decides when a Jedi is 'wise' enough to marry, or something like that.

 

But indeed, who cares? I really think I'm gonna enjoy the romantic subplot.

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hey guys, another amazing thing

 

"RPGamer: Is there any chance you might run into, and possibly recruit, a Jedi from Yoda's race?

 

Casey Hudson: There is a creature of Yoda race in the game, but he an integral part of the Republic war effort and can join your party. You will however have the chance to talk to and interact with him at several points in the game."

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And why exactly is the EU terrible? Examples, please.

 

Methinks that Raven's comment was a bit exagrating(sp?). Yes, there have been a few instances where a Jedi had a family... but most of these examples are either in the ROJO (Really Old Jedi Order) and the NJO(Luke's New Jedi Order). The few PT Jedi that have a family has already been explained one way or the other.

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Originally posted by Burrie

And why exactly is the EU terrible? Examples, please.

 

Can you say "clone emperor"?:)

 

To me you can tell that it's some other other trying to recapture something. There were some good moments in EU. But (IMHO) it seems like second hand material.

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*chuckle* Indeed, the clone emperor always seems to pop up at times like these ;)

 

I have to admit that I've disliked several clones that appeared throughout the EU, with Isard being the worst use of cloning ever (that really had no purpose, I think). To be honest, however, I have no problems with the Emperor/Sidious cloning himself.

 

You see, this IS the Emperor. This has got to be the best Sith Lord that the Galaxy has ever, EVER known. He was capable of accomplishing just that what any other Sith Lord wasn't capable of doing, namely actually defeating the Republic, or rather change its rules to accomdate the Sith and rule over all. There have been many attempts in the past(Freedon Nadd, Exar Kun, Lord Kaan), but they all failed. Where a millenia of Sith Lords have failed, Palpatine succeeded. He is the ultimate mastermind and probably the most vile creature that the galaxy has ever had.

 

That is why I personally can more or less accept that the Emperor would certainly have a solution to something as silly as dying. I just don't see him really having an heir and later on giving the reigns of HIS Empire to someone else... in my mind, he wants to rule forever. Thus, he has to resort to clone bodies to make sure that he's capable of living on, and rule his Empire.

 

 

*phew* Pardon if this is somewhat of a longwinded speech, but I've been a fan of the EU ever since having my first taste of the EU via a little game called Rebel Assault... of course, this is merely my explanation why I have little against the Emperor cloning himself. I understand if you just don't like it, but I hear far too often that 'The EU sucks', but when I want to ask for reasons, there are often none.

 

So... any other reason why you dislike the EU? :)

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So... any other reason why you dislike the EU?

 

I can tell you this. The stories aren't bad. EU gave us Exar Kun and other Jedi history when Lucas wasn't doing anything.

But for me the details of the stories aren't very entertaining.

 

I can read a timeline of EU history and be more sastisfied than reading the actual books. That's just me though.

 

I understand that other like EU. I think the authors that write EU are talented. They are taking someone else's story and (with limitations to what they can do) being very creative.

 

:)

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Wee, another EU adorer! (is that a word?)

 

You mean the books by Stackpole, Raven? I liked those, it was nice that the story focused on a different group of heroes, although I personally think Stackpole focused a bit TOO much on Corran, and not on Rogue Squadron as a whole.

 

Now Aaron Allston's book, those are amongst the best, I think. His Wraith books are very high on my top ten list. Not only does each book focus on a different character of the squadron, but the humor is unsurpassed... have you ever read Starfighters of Adumar? Wes Janson is probably the most funniest character in there by far... hell, Wes' small cameo appearance in Allston's Rebel Dream already made me chuckle.

 

Just curious, Raven, have you read any of the Tales of the Jedi comics? I've recently ordered The Sith War paperback (gotta read up on some background material of KotR), and I'm curious which other series I should get that's set in that time period.

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