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Originally posted by ET Warrior

I think you are giving jango fett far too much credit.

 

First of all, Coleman was not even looking at fett, he was concentrated on taking down Dooku, and Jango's gun fires rather rapidly, he was able to spin and block the first bolt but they came too fast and he was overwhelmed. And against Obi-Wan, Obiwan was only trying to capture him, he wasn't allowed to kill him, so he could show no aggression atall lest he accidentally remove his head. Jango, on the other hand, was willing to use every dirty trick he had to kill obiwan, including a rocket, and boba shot at him with slave 1's canons, disarming him. Then when they fought hand to hand obiwan was STILL handling Jango without extreme difficulty.

 

When Jango actually had a real fight one on one with a Jedi he showed that no single man can stand up to a jedi in a fair fight ;)

 

obi wan wasnt allowed to show any aggression? what do you call swinging his lightsaber at jango then? he ran up and tried to cut off his arm. (which i might add obi wan did to zam when he only wanted to catch her too). he didnt want to kill jango but he DID want to disable jango and if that means he has to carry a torso to the jedi then so be it.

 

i agree that without technology jango couldnt stand up to a jedi, but thats why he HAS technology, he recognized his disadvantages and does what he can to overcome them, i think that jedi should carry blasters as well as lightsabers but they dont recognize the need for ranged attacks and thus they are too constantly having to charge.

 

maybe i am giving jango too much credit but he WAS a skilled warrior, and as for him shooting quickly: he only had one blasted on him at the time, if he had both then that jedi wouldve been dead quicker and mace wouldve had a harder time blocking his shots.

 

speaking of mace windu, hes not exactly a normal jedi, hes THE master of the jedi order, of course hes gonna kick some ass!

 

 

edit: and as for your comment that a jedi without a lightsaber would take down jango without a rocket pack. depends ENTIRELY on the terrain and how far apart they are, if its a straight hallway and they are 30 metres apart jango just shoots the jedi and he wins, no lightsaber= no blocking and jangos proven that hes bloody accurate and quick so dodging wont work. oh and lets not forget that jango held his own in a fistfight with obiwan and gave him some nasty hits.

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and jango gave him a headbutt right back that looked ALOT more vicious. oh and boba didnt disarm obiwan, jango did it... twice (im counting the part where obiwan nearly had his saber back but jango prevented obiwan by use of whipcord).

 

jango is skilled, if he had jedi reflexes then i doubt that any jedi would be able to come close to him.

 

and you constantly spoke of jangos use of technology, isnt a lightsaber technology? without that little weapon there isnt all that much a jedi can do, sure use the force to trick opponents or fling objects at them, but its all elementary, you cant take away jangos jetpack or pit him against any jedi as hes dead, and dead he will stay.

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actually jango is quite capable of taking down jedi, the mandalorians designed the armor just for that purpose, also most of the training is designed to fight jedis. Jango could make fairly easy prey of average jedis, depending on the conditions, but especially at distance. (he lasted 10 seconds to mace, and almost killed obi, that makes him pretty damn good.)

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Originally posted by BlackDove

darth vader

 

hadnt thought of that, but vader is NOT your ordinary jedi. we have yet to see if any other jedi are powerful enough to stop a laserblast (though yoda and dookus ability to stop lightning leads me to believe that they could pull it off).

 

thats got to drain your energy though, stopping something thats not really physical at all. just a laser blast that moves faster then the eye can see (ok in SW the eye can see it eheh).

 

i wonder how long vader could block jangos shots if he had two blasters on him?

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read I, Jedi corran horn is able to absorb energy into himself and either re-direct it in telekinetic moves or harmlessly into the ground. in one scene he absorbs thermal energy from a hot water bubble in a natural rock pool and uses it to lift another jedi telekinetically while in another scene he absorbs a stun baton strike and channels the energy into the deckplate of the ship he's on... it all depends on a particular jedi's skills and abilities...

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sorry dude but thats EU. and as much as i love the EU. it really doesnt count for this discussion. as many jedi died from laser blasts on geonosis (180 or so) we can conclude that A) absorbing blasts takes much skill B) it takes time to ready or C) it drains power quickly.

 

EU has been proven wrong by the movies too many times to be entered into a discussion involving only episode 2. so take it somewhre else :p

 

 

and I, jedi DID kick arse.

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