Mandalorian54 Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 it is hard to draw the line, but that's why we have a concience. A hand job is definetly sin. but it's not sex. if you can't have fun any other way than sex, you obviously have no life. But I know what you mean. no you don't miss out on all the fun, just get married. and until your married, wait patiently, it will be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted February 12, 2003 Share Posted February 12, 2003 the wink means j/k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowTemplar Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by Reborn Outcast No it is meant for pleasure also BUT as the Bible says, ONLY WITH THE PERSON YOU ARE MARRIED TO. Thats the only time I believe and the Bible says you can have sex, whether for reproduction or for pleasure. Again a part of the bible that can do immesurable damage... In most Inuit cultures a standard gesture of hospitality is to offer your wife to the stranger. This is done simply because your village's gene pool needs to be stirred up once in a while and these communities are very isolated. So in order to escape the problem of genetic degeneration, you share your women with strangers... But of course if you don't realize that there is such a thing as evolution this concern is irrelevant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn Outcast Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by ShadowTemplar In most Inuit cultures a standard gesture of hospitality is to offer your wife to the stranger. This is done simply because your village's gene pool needs to be stirred up once in a while and these communities are very isolated. So in order to escape the problem of genetic degeneration, you share your women with strangers... But of course if you don't realize that there is such a thing as evolution this concern is irrelevant... Are people living in places like New York City, Hong Kong and Boston like the Inuits? The Inuits don't follow the Bible, they have their own religion. I don't think its customary for a New Yorker to offer his wife to a stranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowTemplar Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by Mandolorian54 Doing it constantly may not be healthy phisically but I suppose it's fine. Actually it is supposed to be quite healthy... [...]God draws the line. Based on my knowledge of the BIBLE[...] Welcome to the "random fundamentalist on my Ignore List to win a hundred credits" draw. Next draw is on the next 30th of February. Void where prohibited and everywhere else. Who gives a flying what the bible says? Are people living in places like New York City, Hong Kong and Boston like the Inuits? The Inuits don't follow the Bible, they have their own religion. I don't think its customary for a New Yorker to offer his wife to a stranger. Read up on the History of the World. The Inuit communities were christened... Their culture was all but wiped out (well, surprise, surprise). So they actually were forced to follow the foolish christian doctrines... And besides, we are getting to a really good point: Only follow the bible if and when it is rationally advisable... Good point. Keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn Outcast Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by ShadowTemplar Who gives a flying what the bible says? I could say the same for an atheist. Who gives a flying what an atheist says because I know I'm saved by the Bible? I don't say that however because there's a thing called respect for others people beliefs/religions/anything. I don't believe that you have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowTemplar Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by Reborn Outcast I could say the same for an atheist. Who gives a flying what an atheist says because I know I'm saved by the Bible? I don't say that however because there's a thing called respect for others people beliefs/religions/anything. I don't believe that you have that. I may at times fail to respect people whose bodies are in the 21st century, but whose philosophical background belongs in the pre-Dark Age nonsense of the bible. You may wish to remember that Christainity has done nothing of value to the world, whereas atheism has... So you owe atheism a BIG favor, but I don't owe Christianity anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn Outcast Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 One of the reasons Christianity hasn't been able o do anything is because it HASN'T BEEN ALLOWED. Atheists push it away whenever it tries to, it has been disallowed in public school whereas "atheist ways" are being taught in things like Science all the time. Christianity hasn't been given a chance and thats why its very hard for it to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowTemplar Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by Reborn Outcast One of the reasons Christianity hasn't been able o do anything is because it HASN'T BEEN ALLOWED. Atheists push it away whenever it tries to, it has been disallowed in public school whereas "atheist ways" are being taught in things like Science all the time. Christianity hasn't been given a chance and thats why its very hard for it to do anything. Christianity had 18 ****ing centuries to create progress before atheism even showed up. But what did it do all the time? Not a single ****ing thing! So DON'T feed me the "religion is being discriminated by science" crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Chill, guys... Schools dont teach "atheist ways." Rather, they simply dont teach a religion. Are they to choose one particular religion to teach? That would be a violation of church and state (schools being state institutions), and besides, it's not feasible. If you taught christianity, you'd alienate the muslim population, the jewish population, the wiccan population (growing, in most schools, even if it is a little odd), and so on. It's best to stay neutral and let the kids pick their own religion (or their parents, as it usually is). Besides, isnt that what the bible promotes? Free will? Let people choose, dont brainwash them at an early age. Thats why I think that of all the christian factions, Born-Again is the best one. Probably where I'd go if I had to choose. As for them teaching science... come now. Science is far too important to our society to not teach it. It's not a religion. Science has an advantage over religion in that it's, generally, hard facts with solid evidence. Religion is based on faith (very intangible and subsceptible to human errors and flaws) and ancient books that may or may not have been modified from their original forms. Science is best taught because it's a surefire thing, there's usually no arguing with it. You can argue that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead. You cant argue that night and day are exactly the same amount of time on Sept 21 and March 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by ShockV1.89 Chill, guys... i agree. this man is a wise one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by InsaneSith i agree. this man is a wise one. Confucius say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Solar Posted February 13, 2003 Author Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by ShockV1.89 *runs away* Back so soon, Shock? Btw - our schools teach Christianity. Hmm..let me rephrase: our schools tell about christianity as well as other religions. That reminds me >> A while back some muslim parents took their kids (3-5 year olds) away from nursery school and started "rioting", because the kids had a play where everyone was dancing around in a circle wearing a red hat (just like Santa). They thought it was horrible that their kids were taught such disgusting insults against islam. I hate what religion has done to some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowTemplar Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 OK, let's solve this "faith/fact controversy": Let someone use "the Christian way" to create something useful such as a nuclear power plant that doesn't blow itself up... If you can do that without science, then I will accept "the Christian way" to be the basis for school classes. Until you have done that, I hold Christianity to be useless, crappy, murderous BS. And unlike you, I'll have something called proof... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfishB Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by Luc Solar I hate what religion has done to some people. yes .....blowing up etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by Luc Solar Back so soon, Shock? Btw - our schools teach Christianity. Hmm..let me rephrase: our schools tell about christianity as well as other religions. That reminds me >> A while back some muslim parents took their kids (3-5 year olds) away from nursery school and started "rioting", because the kids had a play where everyone was dancing around in a circle wearing a red hat (just like Santa). They thought it was horrible that their kids were taught such disgusting insults against islam. I hate what religion has done to some people. lol I couldnt keep quiet. I'm all for being informed about all the religions. Heck, I'd even go so far as to suggest that all schools teach about all the major religions (which many of them do). It's good to be informed, and religion is such a large part of the world society that not being aware of the aspects of it would just be ignorance. What I'm against is school being taught on certain religious outlines. Ex. Science class teaching the creation theory as fact, citing god and the bible as their main sources. Or history class not teaching anything about the effects the muslim religon had on much of the world, or teaching it with a bias against muslims from a christian point of view. Thats simply wrong. Teach neutral, let the kids decide where they want to be. School is not the place to preach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by ShockV1.89 School is not the place to preach. Which is what many Christians in here interpret as a serious insult to their religion, because not preaching is viewed as "unchristian". Horsesh/t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowTemplar Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by C'jais Which is what many Christians in here interpret as a serious insult to their religion, because not preaching is viewed as "unchristian". Aaah, but it is. It is heathen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by C'jais Which is what many Christians in here interpret as a serious insult to their religion, because not preaching is viewed as "unchristian". Well, they are right in that not preaching is unchristian. It's part of being a christian to try to convert other people to christianity. But school isnt the place for it, and if it's insulting... boohoo, cry me a river. You dont see muslims or jewish people whining about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowTemplar Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by ShockV1.89 You dont see muslims or jewish people whining about it... Actually you do. Every branch of faith creates its own fundamentalists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 True. I guess we should be thankful that the Christian fundamentalists dont fly planes into buildings. (they just blow up abortion clinics... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn Outcast Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by ShadowTemplar Christianity had 18 ****ing centuries to create progress before atheism even showed up. But what did it do all the time? Not a single ****ing thing! So DON'T feed me the "religion is being discriminated by science" crap. Umm atheism has been around for well past 18 centuries. In case you didn't know: Atheism: 1. a. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods. b. The doctrine that there is no God or gods. 2. Godlessness; immorality. Originally posted by ShadowTemplar OK, let's solve this "faith/fact controversy": Let someone use "the Christian way" to create something useful such as a nuclear power plant that doesn't blow itself up... If you can do that without science, then I will accept "the Christian way" to be the basis for school classes. Until you have done that, I hold Christianity to be useless, crappy, murderous BS. And unlike you, I'll have something called proof... Ok you don't seem to get it. Christianity is a RELIGION. RELIGIONS DO NOT TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO BUILD MACHINES. Therefore your analogy about the power plant is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian54 Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 well shock, you act as if the christians are out of place and it's the athiests country and they get to make all the rules. This country was founded by bible believing christians, which is why it's a free country. evry other country at the time was like comunist, or muslim. you can't stop people from preaching, many have tried, even killing those who preach for preaching. If we were just tring to expand our religion we wouldn't exacly be willing to die would we? so if you don't like our preaching you can cry. and you do such a good impression of people when they cry, you must have a lot of experience with crying. I kid, I kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 Originally posted by Mandolorian54 well shock, you act as if the christians are out of place and it's the athiests country and they get to make all the rules. But they should get to make the rules, simply because they aren't affected by religion (wich might decrease their ability to rule, sorry to say it (BTW, don't say I'm flaming your religion, because I didn't say "christianity", I said religion in general) This country was founded by bible believing christians, which is why it's a free country. evry other country at the time was like comunist, or muslim. Fer one thing, it didn't exist communism at the time US was founded, so all the "civilized" countries were christian, but they still hadn't a lot of freedom. A lot of the most oppressing countries throughout time has been christian. And you say that all the muslim countries were oppressing. But for most part, they were more free than countries based on christianity. so if you don't like our preaching you can cry. And if you don't like your religion being critisized, you can cry as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted February 14, 2003 Share Posted February 14, 2003 Antheism is not taught in school. Science and evolution(note that's it's a theory,and most teachers(mine at least) cautioned that while it's an accepted theory,the pupils dont have to follow it.) are taught. Now,if you're saying that Science shouldnt be taught in schools..Dark Ages here we go again... Edit- as for the um..subject...I withold all ideas on the matter,as I havent experianced it first hand. ...I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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