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i dunno i thoroughly enjoy detpacking the upper level players. i love it when there are 2 dets on the flagstand and the capper just isnt paying attention and i get him right when he picks up the flag, cause you know that in that split second he realizes what the little red flashy things are and then knows what's gonna happen next. other than that i love mindtricking flagcarriers and sneaking up on them and rocketing them or whatever then saying "surprise" that one always gets me smiling :D

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Originally posted by Hèkx Nòxú

It's funny when they don't know what's going on, and they're too stupid to use Seeing.

 

I don't use seeing lol.

 

Oh I remembered another one. On the FFA Nar Shadda level, up a the very top, I love taking detpacks and then get people to follow me around a corner where i've laid one. :D So fun to see em fly off. :D

 

And Jeff I got 2 the other day. :D

 

Oh one more. Someone uses mind trick and you follow the glow around on the ground and snipe em. :D Thats fun.

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Originally posted by Jeff 42

If he's dumb enough to come straight toward me and begin a swing then I release my shot, then step back and laugh as he disintegrates mid-swing.

 

I once disintegrated a guy in the middle of a DFA. He wasn't coming at me though. It was team CTF in Nar Shadaa. I saw him about to DFA my teammate, so I blasted him, and he just dissappeared right in front of the guy. The guy looked around and saw me eventually. We all had a good laugh about that one... except the guy I killed... he left shortly afterwards... sore loser...

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Originally posted by Jeff 42

Another fun tactic with the Tenloss is what I like to call baiting saber noobs. I zoom in and stand still as a saberist approaches. If he's dumb enough to come straight toward me and begin a swing then I release my shot, then step back and laugh as he disintegrates mid-swing.

 

Woah Jeff I do that to!!! Except I back into a corner so it looks like theres no way for me to escape, that makes it even more fun. :D

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its practically the only thing I do...

 

the rest of the game is just so darned boring, the only fun thing remaining is killing saberists in humiliating ways.l

 

You won't believe the amount of people who join a server, get killed by the bryar about twice and instantly leave...

 

On the other hand, another nice kill (that's actually practical), is to severely weaken an enemy with a rocket shot or 2, then finish them off with the stun baton... people tend to leave after that to...

 

man... i'm sick of servers emptying just because I use the bryar :(

 

only last week I got kickvoted for a crappy 8 kills in 2 minutes :(

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there seems to be a steep increase in the number of bad servers while the good ones seem to dissapear. I tend to get kicked off servers a LOT more now, and I usually don't go out of my way to piss people off... untill they ask for it.

 

but it seems people allways vote yes to kickvotes now, even ones you haven't even played with.

 

just yesterday, logged into a server, a guy started hacking at me in blue stance while I was in console. Came back in game and grip kicked him to death in 3.1 seconds, went back into console.

 

got kickvoted before doing anything else.

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I'd have to say that my favorite kill has to be force gripping someone and either dropping them, or pushing them down into a kill-zone, IE the pit that Emperor Palpatine got thrown down in ROTJ.

 

Aside from that, the other has to be a kill with a DFA... I mean, it's just cool to look at...

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No no no video games are about having fun and a good passtime. When i went to buy the first Jedi knight, and the second i said to myself, "Gee this looks fun i must buy this now." Too many players have this attitude that you have to be a cyber-athlete in order to play a game, which simply isn't so. The point isn't to slave over your puter. Its just silly to get all mad or lash out at someone who enjoys pushing someone off a ledge. So when it happens, (and it will) push your glasses back up toward your nose, make your little sniffle, and type in your "wtf" or "omg." I apologize that i don't have this supposed button mashing "skill" as you put it. I guess some of us just dont feel the need to slobber all over our keyboard for 8 hours a day.

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Originally posted by DeTRiTiC-iQ:

 

which indicates you know nothing about video games. I can't stand kills gained using pull/push. If I get a kill from knocking someone off an edge, i want it to be earnt. ie a well-timed thermal detonator into the path of a speed-rager.

 

This statement seems to mean that you incorrectly assume that those two powers cannot be used with skill. All things can be used with skill, be they Force push, a Golan flechette or a Redeemer in UT. The fact that certain elements spam these things means nothing. Furthermore, a kill's a kill, and it doesn't matter whether you win by a point or a century. This is the whole of the law. ;)

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I think that push and pull do require skill. They have multiple functions based on how you use them. From easing you towards victory in a saber lock to pulling the merr sonn from out of the hands of someone who is trying to blow you off the catwalks of Nar Shaddar. However, anyone can throw someone to their doom. With grip level 3, you can hold them over a cliff and if you let go, they die. If you kill them with a gun or push them away, they die. I agree that they require skill and practice, but dropping them with grip is something that is too hard not to spam. The victim has no chance of survival after three seconds. If they just ran out of force pool, they're doomed. If you use a weapon, which takes multiple hits to kill, the other person on the other side has a chance.

 

With mindtrick kick, at least, which does seem slightly cheap, yet comical, you can use sight. After you get hit with no noise nearby, you know something is wrong, and if you don't do something to escape other than spinning in circles looking for the enemy, you deserve to die because, in third person view, you probably know what hit you and in first person view, you have something other than the lightsaber so facing the source of where you think the shot is is futile. If you don't have seeing, use drain, lightning, or just run away.

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Originally posted by Spider AL

This statement seems to mean that you incorrectly assume that those two powers cannot be used with skill. All things can be used with skill, be they Force push, a Golan flechette or a Redeemer in UT. The fact that certain elements spam these things means nothing. Furthermore, a kill's a kill, and it doesn't matter whether you win by a point or a century. This is the whole of the law. ;)

 

Of course I know that in some situations pull/push require skill. But the end result doesn't ever make me think "OMG WHAT AN AWESOME KILL, I HAVE TO DO THAT AGAIN". Which I think is what the whole point of this thread is.

 

I don't consider it fun getting kills which do nothing but annoy the target. I enjoy kills which both myself and the person i've killed can appreciate the skill of, its a two-way process for me. This is the reason I play, not to just come out on top of the scoreboard yet again. I used to play to win, now I play to appreciate what i'm now able to do.

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Originally posted by irishpump

No no no video games are about having fun and a good passtime. When i went to buy the first Jedi knight, and the second i said to myself, "Gee this looks fun i must buy this now." Too many players have this attitude that you have to be a cyber-athlete in order to play a game, which simply isn't so. The point isn't to slave over your puter. Its just silly to get all mad or lash out at someone who enjoys pushing someone off a ledge. So when it happens, (and it will) push your glasses back up toward your nose, make your little sniffle, and type in your "wtf" or "omg." I apologize that i don't have this supposed button mashing "skill" as you put it. I guess some of us just dont feel the need to slobber all over our keyboard for 8 hours a day.

 

I just don't consider it fun to kill people in irritating ways. I have empathy towards other players, sue me.

 

"push your glasses", "make your little sniffle", "slobber all over our keyboard for 8 hours a day"? Wow, you've made narrow-minded person of the day. congratulations.

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and youre not? You failed to see a game for an object of fun and pastime. You also failed to see that it had what you called "skill." You didnt see it until others jumped to defend it. Face it, it is a game. Play to have fun. And you brought the negetivety your way when you lashed out at me to begin with.

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The entire basis of my posts are that I now only do what I consider to be fun, I ONLY PLAY TO HAVE FUN. I don't play competitively (anymore), I don't care if I lose (although I prefer to win), and I don't play anywhere near as much as I used to.

 

In response to Spider_AL I had mentioned that I can realize the situational skill of pull/push. But I also said that I don't get any fun out of it, I don't enjoy attacking people in ways which I don't like being attacked.

 

I lashed out at you initially because I objected to your comment about videogames and skill, nothing more. The first sentence in that paragraph, the rest of that post was directed at the thread in general, not you.

 

If you want to argue my reasons for playing games, fine, but from what i'm aware we both play games for fun, rather than religiously, but our approach is different.

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What makes you think that we spend life on this just because we want to give our fellow human being the chance to beat us and give ourselves a challenge instead of making them hate us for spamming a move any noob can do? What's the fun in killing people in an instant? Why do you think people post threads on combat tactics for JO? You might as well stand in a spawn point and "crush people into another dimension" and have them die just because they happened to come in on that spawn point. The only thought involved in gripping or pushing people off a ledge is standing in the right place and you can easily stand in a corner next to a ledge so you don't get pushed off and grip those off who pass by. Then, you don't move at all and can only be killed by a weapon. A saberist can be gripped and a gunner can be defended against. So you stand still and move the mouse and hit five buttons. Wow, fun.

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Ok thanks Irish for misinterpreting my post an dstarting a flaming war!!! I don't know if you notive the HUGE grin and wink at the end of my post. They signify something...

 

Also, constantly spamming pull/push gets annoying to other players. The key to making it fun is KNOWING WHEN TO USE IT. I honestly fell no pleasure of hitting my key for push 50 times and see someone flying off a cliff. I DO HOWEVER enjoy being gripped and as I'm falling USING PULL TO PULL THE GUY OFF AFTER ME. That makes it worthwhile. Also, this game does require a certain amount of skill to master some elements such as the Tenloss. Anyone can fire it but it takes practice to kill someone while flying sideways in midair or jumping around insanly and still having the skill to aim, hold and fire while in midjump and killing people with the Tenloss.

 

And irish don't be straight minded about other good players being geeks with no life. Get real man.

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