ras1310 Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 This idea keeps coming up, so it might as well be a thread of its own: Do you think Obi-wan was using the power of the Dark Side when he killed Darth Maul? Personally, I just cannot agree to that. It's so out of character. Also, the Jedi Council gave Obi-wan Knight status for his battle against Maul. I think they would hardly do that if Obi-wan used the Dark Side during it, or at least at the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 He was mad at Maul because of his Master's death, and attacked Maul with rage. He certainly was affected by the Dark Side, wich is why he lost the duel. But the last strike was not done with pure rage, as Obi-Wan managed to calm his senses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 he lost the duel because Darth Maul quickly flashed Force Push onto obi-wan, which surprised him. Its not like in Jedi Outcast where you can absorb a Force push with your own energy allocation points. lol... Its because of Obi-wan's fast, furious attack that he was able to bring Darth Maul to a single blade. So, IMO, I do not believe that obi-wan will touch face with the dark side I also just read that Obi-wan will by Episode 3 have taken up the Form III saber technique. Because a True master of Form III is practically invincible. Which is why Anakin will have trouble in episode 3 against Obi-wan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 If so then why was....[decides not to bring up ep4].... Darkside? No. Close? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbeth2k1 Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Cutting Maul in half was very sith-like. But I gotta admit that attacking his saber hilt was pure Jedi teaching. I assume that Obi-Wan assumed if he could cut Maul's saber hilt it would disable it completly, hoping to end the fight that way. It took great skill to sucessfully attack such a small target without hitting anything else. Unfortunatly Maul built his saber in such a way that that kind of damage wouldn't disable the entire thing. Again, I stand by my comments that Obi-Wan treaded just as close to the darkside as Luke did in ROTJ. And admirably, was able to overcome the lure of the easy path, and continued as a great Jedi Master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Originally posted by Random Cutting Maul in half was very sith-like. But I gotta admit that attacking his saber hilt was pure Jedi teaching. I assume that Obi-Wan assumed if he could cut Maul's saber hilt it would disable it completly, hoping to end the fight that way. It took great skill to sucessfully attack such a small target without hitting anything else. Unfortunatly Maul built his saber in such a way that that kind of damage wouldn't disable the entire thing. Hmmm...I always thought that was a lucky shot lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediNyt Posted April 26, 2003 Share Posted April 26, 2003 Originally posted by Random Again, I stand by my comments that Obi-Wan treaded just as close to the darkside as Luke did in ROTJ. And admirably, was able to overcome the lure of the easy path, and continued as a great Jedi Master. Well said. Good ol Obi, you can always count on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 i can only second that. i dont think he used the dark side however to jump over mual and slice him in half. but leading up to that i think he was using some "dark side rage". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 No I really don't think so! Obi wan is a Jedi fromthe Lightside! He defeated Maul by using the Light side of the force (although he might looked a little bit angry during the kill ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaNothing Posted June 14, 2003 Share Posted June 14, 2003 When Obi Wan defeated Maul after jumping up, he was calm, but before he was pushed he was angry and if he had killed him then, he would have known that he only killed Maul as an act of anger, but because he was pushed Obi Wan had time to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largo-LaGrande Posted June 14, 2003 Share Posted June 14, 2003 also maul was stupid and thourght he was dead and let his guard down so it was kinda a lucky shot in a way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleto4_ryan Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Agree with Omega... He was surely in the last line when he got angry thus making that angrily movements and also thus loosing it and letting Maul to push him... But dew to the push and that he had some moments...he regained his sences and thought well and as a jedi. The last blow wasn't a Sith one but a jedi one... As for the hitting the saber in the middle. I always thought it was dew to the big angry of his (Luke hitting Vader's hand) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaNothing Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 I dont agree with alot of the Jedi Rules. Anger is one of them, surely they cant ever feel angry, I hate to amit it even though I much prefer the jedi back in the old Republic I think the New Jedi Order has the better rules, Love for example, not forbidden anymore - Luke met mara etc etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleto4_ryan Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Yep...i hate those rules a lot also...... Did you know that love was forbitten before II? i didn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaNothing Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Yep until Lukes time, love has always been forbidden. In some ways that rule lead to the destruction of the jedi <Sigh>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleto4_ryan Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Originally posted by OmegaNothing Yep until Lukes time, love has always been forbidden. know that luke stopped some rules but... In some ways that rule lead to the destruction of the jedi <Sigh>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaNothing Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 The forbidden love of Anakin and Padme, it must of been frustrating hiding it which played a signifigant part in his turning to the darkside, his love for his mother in which he went back to tatooine and saw her die, his love drove him to murder those tusken. Maybe if Love wasn't forbidden at the time Anakin may never have turned to the darkside. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted June 29, 2003 Share Posted June 29, 2003 Maybe if Love wasn't forbidden at the time Anakin may never have turned to the darkside. . . . How do you figure? The scenario of Shmi's death, which you also talked about in your post, is a perfect illustration of why attachment should be forbidden. The distinction must be made between love and attachment. As Anakin says, Jedi are encouraged to love, to be compassionate toward all life. Attachment is the problem. What would happen if Mara Jade were killed? What would Luke do? Would he be able to control himself, or would he be driven to avenge her, whatever the cost? Love can turn into the darker emotions in an instant, and Jedi, with the kind of power they wield, cut out everything that would be a temptation to them. They own nothing, they have no family save the Order, they have no distraction from the Force. The Dark Side is human emotion. It is not the true nature of the Force. The reason why it's quicker, easier and more sudductive is because you're just cutting loose. Jedi dedicate themselves to following the will of the Force. They surrender themselves to the Force. For over a thousand years, this Order has stood with its rules, including the one against attachment. Let's not forget that it is one Padawan Learner, who throws away this rule, and goes rogue, who destroys the Order. In that light, I'd say the Jedi Order knew what it was talking about when it made that rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiMP RABBiT Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 i dont think that every time a jedi kills someone in rage they join the darkside. I think that if they do and relise how powerful it is and want the power they turn evil. Obi didnt want the power at the expense of being evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 i dont think that every time a jedi kills someone in rage they join the darkside. I think that if they do and relise how powerful it is and want the power they turn evil. Obi didnt want the power at the expense of being evil. The Dark Side isn't just about power. It's about being drunk on emotion. The Jedi deny themselves all of their passions so that they can do what the Force wants, not just what they want. Their reward is eternal life in the Force. Dark Siders do what they want as opposed to what the Force wants, and by denying the Force, they deny what it offers and they are annhilated at death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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