Solbe M'ko Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Pretty sure, yeah. The biggest preoblem that I could see was that nothing new was really tried out. For example, outside of the base the textures all look pretty much the same and don't fit together very well, like in DF. Why not make textures that work instead of repeating the mistakes made with DF? Just a suggestion that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbe M'ko Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 Anyway, how you folks plan on making those big dragons in the Jabba level? Will they be like stormtroopers, or will they need special work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracman Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 The biggest preoblem that I could see was that nothing new was really tried out. For example, outside of the base the textures all look pretty much the same and don't fit together very well, like in DF. Why not make textures that work instead of repeating the mistakes made with DF? Just a suggestion that's all. Heh it's not that easy! We first recreate all the textures and create maps that have the overall DF design and architecture. Where it is necessary or looks better, some textures are replaced by detailed brushes (more detailed map elements). Have a look at the Sewers screenshots, the horizontal metal bands are such details. They increase the realism of the map. Where the DF architecture is not possible with JO or where it does not make sense, it is modified. But still according the look&feel of DF. The textures should of course look like DF. If they would not, we wouldn't call it DF MOD! Thanks anyways for your comments on the demo, because there are indeed a few places where the textures are not properly aligned. That already has been reported internally, we're lot of people in the team, many pairs of eyes Please don't forget, it is a DEMO and therefore not exactly how it will look like at the end. Most of us are learning how to make everything by the time, therefore you can expect increasing quality from piece to piece of the puzzle as they're being completed! And make sure you set the texture quality to extra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapSlash Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Posted by Solbe M'ko No offense-I must make comment on this mod. Your unfinished dark trooper model looks like it was taken right out of DF, I think it would be a waste of a good engine to port the models/textures right from DF. Frankly, I think that this would be considered quite a compliment if it were not so absurd,... The original Dark Forces characters weren't 3D models, but 2D sprites. The biggest preoblem that I could see was that nothing new was really tried out. For example, outside of the base the textures all look pretty much the same and don't fit together very well, like in DF. While I too think it's a shame that the mod isn't leaning towards making the levels look more realistic, I can understand the desire to maintain as much of the original feel of the game as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recombinant Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Originally posted by Solbe M'ko Anyway, how you folks plan on making those big dragons in the Jabba level? Will they be like stormtroopers, or will they need special work? The creation & animation of the Kell Dragons and the Diaonogas are a particularly sticky issue, since the MP engine only supports the _humanoid skeleton + animations, as I've stated before (ad nauseum, actually). However, it is possible that there may be a solution in the next few months for new skeletons & animations to work in the Multiplayer engine... But that's a little ways off, and it's always possible that we will run into yet another engine-limitation brick wall... But hopefully we'll be able to work out a solution - even if that means using the Jedi Academy engine (though my hope is that Raven/LucasArts/Activision will release the SP code for JO later this year). So we'll see... one way or the other we'll try to get this going. As a last resort, we may have to come up with a pit full of nasty beasts created based on _humanoid - certainly not as fun as punching a kell dragon, but we may have no other alternative given the limitations of the MP engine. However, that's not for me to decide, and I'm going to keep working on what we've got. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbe M'ko Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Okay, just to clarify, I didn't mean that the DT looked just like the sprite (even I'm not that ignorant). I just meant that he kind of looked unfinished (Yeah, I know). His face and abdomen bugged me. He just looked like the closest thing possible to the original sprite, only 3D. I just think maybe a little more "dirtiness" and maybe a more sinister looking face would help (I think his head is disproportionate to his body), maybe some longer claws too. I noticed that in DF he looked a lot like the Terminator and in the mod he looks kinda like that now. But overall, a very nice model. I took another look at your Boba model. You're gonna clean that up right? I mean, it's not "bad" but I looks like it has some clipping issues or something. I'm not "dissing" your mod, so don't take this the wrong way, I just feel like expressing my nitpicky opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CortoCG Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 No more updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recombinant Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Thanks for the update, Corto!!! Sounds awesome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CortoCG Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 No more updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Yeah, don't mess with Corto, his eyebrows could knock a man dead *Runs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbe M'ko Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Don' be hatin'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CortoCG Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 No more updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyral Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 Hi! Well first of all, this is my first post *g* I just want to say that this mod is doing great and i played the demo an felt like in good old Dark Forces times. But there is a weaponmodel on your site, that really bugs me. The Dark Trooper Assault Cannon! It dosn't look like the DF Assault Cannon at all! I'm very sorry if this sounds offending. But the original Assault Cannon looks like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapSlash Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 I believe the models in the weapon screenshots of the website are intended to be viewed in the first person mode only, and have been distorted so they look like the weapons did in the original game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewok mercenary Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 To be honest I think I think the assault cannon should look more like the one seen on the DT: It looks sleeker and more like a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 Originally posted by ewok mercenary To be honest I think I think the assault cannon should look more like the one seen on the DT: It looks sleeker and more like a gun. But DF is meant to be played in the 1st person. PERHAPS it is possible to make one for the DT enemies, and upon pickup, it switches to the 1st person version you guys have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Don't worry too much about this. I believe this, and other weapons, have changed a fair bit since the screenshots on that page were taken - which was quite a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted May 25, 2003 Share Posted May 25, 2003 Off topic, but how did your Exam go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 OK, apart from one question where I don't think I really gave the answer they were looking for. They asked "How satisfying did you find the ending of 'The Winter's Tale'?" - I basically said, in about 3 pages that I thought it sucked - not quite that blunt, but I certainly wasn't very kind about Shakespeare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salv Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 As Rich mentioned, I wouldnt worry about it...since the models have change not only abit, but A LOT since then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey S Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Bah! Everybody just wants to see more fantastic weapon screenshots! After that stuff with the Imperial Repeater I do too, to be honest. That weapon looked perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Originally posted by The_One OK, apart from one question where I don't think I really gave the answer they were looking for. They asked "How satisfying did you find the ending of 'The Winter's Tale'?" - I basically said, in about 3 pages that I thought it sucked - not quite that blunt, but I certainly wasn't very kind about Shakespeare... Don't they reward you for being analyitical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Originally posted by Count_D00ku Don't they reward you for being analyitical? Let's hope so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris the cynic Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Shakespeare doesn't deserve Kindness. He did one original play, and how many others? You ever hear of him giving credit to the previous authors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Originally posted by chris the cynic Shakespeare doesn't deserve Kindness. He did one original play, and how many others? You ever hear of him giving credit to the previous authors? I think you miss the point of Shakespeare. It wasn't about the stories... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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