Kylilin Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 my car is kinda like this one here, except for the cool rims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegy Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by InsaneSith I found a ... 71 nova i think it was for 5500. I so want to buy it. it's in good condition too! *runs off to tell parents* Sweet! Not a bad price. Get it! Get it! Get it! I'd take a Mach 1 Mustang, a Nova, A Chevy SS, a Camaro, or a Firebird Trans Am. Oh hell, I'd take just about any sweet 60s - 70s muscle car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNNER Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 This is what you need... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNNER Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 A better shot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by GUNNER This is what you need... Yeah man, but it's an "Oldsmobile"!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegy Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Originally posted by Darth Groovy Yeah man, but it's an "Oldsmobile"!? Hey, those oldsmobiles kicked ass in the 60s. They're not the slow turd buckets that the 70-year-old man at your church drives every day today. It was that whole smog nazi OPEC era that neutered alot of cars in the mid 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNNER Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 This car will run mid 12s all day. Best so far is a 12.78@106mph. Show me what you have that will do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Heh heh... my best friend's sister used to have one of those Gunner. She had a 442 at one point. I think she had an old Buick for a while too. His dad had a '68 or '69 Camaro convertable, and a Road Runner Superbird that he restored. My friend had an old Dodge Dart 4-door,.. with a tricked out V8. The ultimate sleeper car... fast as hell, but nobody would ever suspect it. He also had a Rambler that he drag-raced with. It was always fun to hang out at his place... muscle-car heaven! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Originally posted by InsaneSith get a civic crx. those things can be modded to godly speeds. you mean the same "godly" speeds that a stock camaro or corvette could reach? *laughs* when I look for cars I look for: Leather Seats, Power Seats, Keyless Entry, wait those are all standard on new cars. and those were not "flames" they were facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperglide Posted August 14, 2003 Author Share Posted August 14, 2003 Well i've basically decided to get the Neon. I lot of factors have varied into my decision. Things such as safety features, modding capabilites, stock bhp, insurance, styling, amenities, beat out the other car's I chose at the same price so it's Neon all the way!! In about 1.5 to 2 months I'll have enough money saved for a hefty DP on a Used 2000 Neon LE (don't know if it's gonna be a Dodge or Chrysler yet like it matters Daimler-Chrysler is the same damn company anyways). Piece of crap? Obviously you know nothing about old muscle cars and so then you should then be condemned to ride in some lame ass rice turd. It takes a real man to handle a 1968-1970 Nova with a 427 wedged between the frame rails with a 4 speed so your propably right. Go for the limp wristed turd bucket you mentioned. *COUGH COUGH* SARCASM *COUGH HACKKKKKKKKK* I know my old school car's to and I wasn't dissing 'em all. I was looking for something new and economical on gas insurance and maintenance. If I could afford an older car (like a Charger, or Cougar or Semi-Cuda or Shelby 350 GT) sure i'd probably get one but that's what I wasn't looking for so ya..... And a Neon isn't so "limp wristed." No car's nowadays are muscle machines of old and within' reasonable price's, unless you're willing to put down 50$ large for one, even then those cars don't have the classic Bhp of old, so don't try to win your argument with that dude. 132 Bhp isn't to shabby for a piddly little "turd bucket.' Plus I'll be modding it a bit. Besides where am I gonna go over 110 km anyways? No where unless I want to break the law which I don't plan on doin' anyways. Btw has anyone seen that Caddilac(sp?) Escalante, that's been souped up with 700 BHP? Man that has a 0-60 of 4 seconds and beat out a Ferrari Modena and a Porshe Carrera 911 Turbo lol! I think the torque was 750 lbs @ 4600 RPM to not sure about the latter though. The RPM was probably higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNNER Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 So sorry, didn't know you were a muscle car fanatic. And you can find a real nice Camaro for a good price. What aboutv a 87-90 IROC. I had a 87 IROC. 305/ 5 speed. T-Top, power windows/locks/seats. 4 wheel disc. It was fast and would stop on a dime and could carve corners with the best. I paid 10K for it in 1990 but I'm sure a decent one today would only be 4-6K. And one more tvhing, my Olds put out 500ft lbs at 3200rpm stock from the factory with a carb and points ignition. So 750 from a 50K SUV with another 10K into the engine isn't all that neat especially with todays technology. Just facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 Originally posted by GUNNER So sorry, didn't know you were a muscle car fanatic. And you can find a real nice Camaro for a good price. What aboutv a 87-90 IROC. I had a 87 IROC. 305/ 5 speed. T-Top, power windows/locks/seats. 4 wheel disc. It was fast and would stop on a dime and could carve corners with the best. I paid 10K for it in 1990 but I'm sure a decent one today would only be 4-6K. And one more tvhing, my Olds put out 500ft lbs at 3200rpm stock from the factory with a carb and points ignition. So 750 from a 50K SUV with another 10K into the engine isn't all that neat especially with todays technology. Just facts. yes but most oldsmobiles are heavier cars...as are those monstorous SUVs out there today, they couldnt function without those beefy engines. I dont have a problem with import cars (ones from Japan specifically) they are great cars and almost never need maintenance. But when kids these days think entry level jap car and fast go together it makes me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNNER Posted August 14, 2003 Share Posted August 14, 2003 You bet they are big cars. So to get one of them no haul ass is no easy feat plus it will sit 6 adults easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegy Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Originally posted by Hyperglide And a Neon isn't so "limp wristed." No car's nowadays are muscle machines of old and within' reasonable price's, unless you're willing to put down 50$ large for one, even then those cars don't have the classic Bhp of old, so don't try to win your argument with that dude. 132 Bhp isn't to shabby for a piddly little "turd bucket.' Plus I'll be modding it a bit. Besides where am I gonna go over 110 km anyways? No where unless I want to break the law which I don't plan on doin' anyways. I don't know, when me and my aunt went to Ozzfest in Sacramento we ended up renting a Neon. We didn't want to take either of the Mustangs. She didn't want to drive her '99 Cobra the whole entire way from southern cali, to the halfway point at my house in Fresno, and then another 2 or 3 hour drive to Sac. So at first the plan was to park her car at my house, and we'd just take my '85 GT the rest of the way. But I've got no air conditioning (hey, I only paid $1,400 for this thing so it needs a bit of work). So we just rented a car, and it turned out to be a Neon. It was hilarious every time we stepped on it on the freeway to pass someone up or get up to speed as we pulled onto the onramp. You couldn't feel any torque at all, and the engine sounded like a little lawnmower or a small fan being pushed to it's limits. We were cracking up the whole entire drive. 132bhp isn't as much as you're making it out to be. Think of it this way. My 1985 5.0 Mustang has 210bhp. And this is a car from 1985, that's almost 20 years ago. The car is two years younger than I am. But it's pushing more than 132. 210bhp isn't even really much to brag about, I'd probably make high 15's to 16 second runs at the track. Compare that to some of the newer cars that make horsepower in the 300's range and are making 13's and 14's at the track. But heck, I think we ought to lay off the guy. From the sounds of it, he's not looking for a fast car. He said as much, he doesn't plan on breaking the law and going any faster than he has to. In essence, you're right. If you're looking for just a daily driver, and you're not looking for a fast car and you have no plans on taking the thing to the track, it would be stupid to get a car with balls when you wouldn't even be really using those balls. It sounds like you're looking for something cheap and reliable that'll get you around, and for that the Neon is an excellent choice. But dude, if you have any plans at all to take the thing to the track, there's cars out there with much more balls that you could probably find for under $10k. Anyone who's looking for a cheap track car, I'd suggest a 5.0 Mustang from 1979 - 1993. Actually scratch that, 1985 - 1993. 1985 was the year the 5.0 mustang went up to 210hp. And later years are 225hp because of the true dual exhaust (mine looks like it but it's just a y-pipe). But the benefit of the 5.0 Mustang is that you can find these things for up to $6,000, and even that's on the expensive side. I wouldn't pay any more than $3,000 - $4,000 for one in good shape. And they're a car with one of the biggest ranges of domestic parts available which means they're cheap and easy to build up. I won't be dumping near as much money into my 5.0 as some people will with other cars to get them to push some good times at the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperglide Posted August 15, 2003 Author Share Posted August 15, 2003 Elegy you realize your comparing a compact car from the year 2000 (how many muscle car's are there today for under 40$$, my point exactly) to a car that sure is almost 20 years old, but is still a sports car, which was made for power, not economy. Dude compare it to a freaking Hyundai Pony or a VW Rabbit and then we'll talk (and we both know THOSE limp wristed car's probably can't even push 100 bhp). Man I can put 1000$ Canadian into my new neon and get 30 more HP that can blow away any ricer or Chevy/Pontiac compact, (Civic's, Acura's, Cavaliers, and Sunfires THE SAME CLASS MIND YOU), riding in my city. Neon's are so underrated when it comes to racing. The new SRT-4 can beat a freaking 300ZX (Same year and everything) for pete sakes. And that's stock. Besides any 20 year Mustang would be sweet I LOVED those cars but it might last me a year at best. At least the Neon will last me for 3-5 years, but still thanks for all your tips Elegy. If i'm ever looking for a muscle car i'll come to you first ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegy Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Well, as I said earlier, it sounds like from the description of what you're looking in a car that the Neon will fit much more than a sportscar. But under 40$$? I take it that's your limit, but did you mean $40k? I'm not sure what the canadian dollar is compared to the us dollar but if it's about the same then I can get a 2003 Mustang Cobra for around $35k. $30k for a 2003 edition Mach 1. Ahhh....those things are sweet. But your point still stands, the retail value over here for a Neon SRT is $20k. Only a little over half the price of a Mustang. And this is for a 2003. Your 2000 would be even cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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