I'd like this guy banned please....how do I go about doing it....

[RoyTordesLegend]

...I have no problem with Gerbil as a person, despite his many insults. If in a few months time - he still doesn't want to get on with me....then fair enough!

 

.....what p'd me off, was the fact that Gerbil didn't bother getting to know me, and had decided after my FIRST post (one of 3) that I wasn't worth listening to. If he didn't like my style I would have listended to whatever guidelines he wanted me to adhere to.

 

.....and for the record, since Gerbil assumed that I have no love for Samnmax......

 

....Samnmax was the first game I bought for my first ever PC back in 1995......now if that isn't reason enough for the game to be special to me....I dont know what is!!!

 

Anyway peace to everyone....even Gerbil and Carl:)

[Zoom Rabbit]

I'm not sure if there's much I can add to that. Well said!

 

So the appearance of Star Wars forumites in a strange forum is 'trolling?' Look...I've visited many a forum, and gotten to know the regulars there without automatically being hassled for being an outsider. At S&M, I proceeded on the assumption that it was merely the forum's style with newbies and kept posting; now that's an invasion? Pfft.

 

If we aren't welcome, you guys need to make a big sticky announcement in those forums where we aren't, or remove them from the forum jump menu. Otherwise, curious forumites will continue to blindly wander into a flame trap.

 

No one ever ONCE brought up Sam and Max in that forum. We never got around to cutting through the hostility and having any actual discussions--how was the subject to even come up? Bah.

 

The hostility over this group versus that group needs to come to an end. If one reads through this thread, one finds that that is the root cause of what the thread is about...and also the root cause of problems that have been happening all too frequently lately.

 

(Note: Gerbil, if the picting bothers you...there's nothing forcing you to click on the links now, is there?)

[Jake]

Originally posted by edlib

The idea isn't to "post somewhere where they know they won't get along with the regulars..." but to get to know the regulars! How are you supposed to know if the regulars are going to like you or not until they react to your presence (in this case, hostilely.)

 

The answer to that is ... (drumroll please) lurking!... AKA standard nettequite. I mean come on.

 

Originally posted by edlib

But how is someone unfamiliar with with the subject supposed to find out about these things and maybe become interested in it if the people with the most knowledge about them make a conscious attempt to try to scare off everybody who is not already a part of the community?

 

For one, I wouldn't recommend the "off topic" forum for getting information about on topic information.

 

 

 

Anyway, as I've said above in previous posts, I don't agree with the way people are treated there, but I do think a bit of the problem is people not even trying to figure out whats going on in there before leaping in with a post that doesnt at all jive with the other threads regulars have created in the last year The Sam & Max.net population is small, and doesn't mind being small, so there's really not that much reading needed before discovering whether or not what you were thinking about posting will work in the form you initially planned to say it in.

 

The on-topic forums are generally devoid of modding madness. If you actually talk about Sam & Max in the Sam & Max on-topic forums you'll most likely get a real response.

[edlib]

All valid points Jake... but I still don't plan on altering my behavior of occasionally popping into an Off-Topic forum to join in to a conversation I think I can contribute to, or to splatter some random madness and (attempted) humor wherever I think it might fit.

[Zoom Rabbit]

Meh. Personally, I don't think the initial assumption that one should conform to the regulars in a forum in order to post is a valid point...

 

Perhaps we should just say they don't 'cotton to outsiders' there, and leave it at that.

[Deft Aklin]

/cringe

/twitch

/slink away to his forums

 

Note to self: Don't let the kiddies near the Sam and Max forums.

 

Wow, some of that stuff is vulgar even to me....and that's saying something. Anyway......

[Darth Groovy]

Originally posted by C Shutt

Those rules don't apply to all forums. Are we done here?

 

And that is the real catch 22. You can't blame C Shutt, because he's only acting based on what was set forth as his guidelines. This has been the subject of many interforum disputes, alot of which I have personally witnessed. Here is the scenarion according to what I know.

 

A. The forum was created before the LF merger, and the rules did not change, the rules were something along the lines of "anything goes". That rule is entising to new members, and mods act on that rule alone.

 

B. "Oh, now you wanna rules us to death, well screw you, I'm leaving and taking (insert member's names) with me. " No mod or admin wants that, nobody wants to see a community fall apart, not even admins, or mods.

 

C. "So now we have new rules, is this because of my threads? Or just some LF thing? And who decides the rules?" Ok, this is the touchiest issue. Let's say community X has been under a set of guidelines different from that of LF since 1999? Your gonna offend and invade territory here, this is inevitable. There is a stuck list of rules atop of Yoda's Swamp at Jedi Kight.com. Does this rule apply to the older communities? Not at all, most of them are regualrs, maybe a small crowd. You change the script on them, they immediately take it out on the mods. Nobdy ever wants to start a war, but I have seen this taken place at countless forums in the past year alone. You move into a building as the super... you don't know your clients, but you decide to run it like it is the burbs where you grow up... It never works..:/

 

And this, has been the subject of many heated debates. One party wants a forum wide set of rules, yet the locals want to be left alone. As an admin, if it were you, How in the Hell do you keep everyone happy at that point?

 

Alot of good ideas were thrown out, that did not materialize (I am not able to disclose details, that is against MY set of guidlines!)

 

Most of the time, the threads get closed, and swept under a rug, until it happens in another community within LF, then the cycle continues. I would have to say, that the main reason for that, is that these suggestions always cause problems, and lead to flame wars, and at that point, if YOU were an admin, how much bitching could YOU take?

 

Belive it or not, we DO want input, but be tactful, and respect those who disagree you, as much as those who support you, and this problem will end. And on a further note, rules are only made to protect LF from legal hassles, and also because we care about the members, and nobody should leave a board feeling pissed off about something.

 

As far as forum wide rules are concerned, it is a tricky issue, and these things take time, but keep in mind, we only make the rules to protect the entire community. Some rules DO apply to EVERYONE within the LF network. Lists are not always available to all sites, bu that could change soon. Please accept the fact that change is a part of life, and also keep in mind that if your swearing up a storm, and posting a free-for-all insult bar... Just remember that eventually a user will, (maybe younger), act according to what he/she sees. It's called being human, and willing to try is the hardest part for anyone.