ZBomber Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Here are some concept drawings for a map I'm making. http://jeditwotwenty.tripod.com/water.txt http://jeditwotwenty.tripod.com/fire.txt Thanks to Jed for uploading the pics. As you can see, they are fire and water based maps. There is a dueling platform above each map, and on the water one, there are underground tunnels that lead to different areas. Some of the rocks will be breakable on the fire Map. I'll post some pictures in game soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kengo Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Z, I like the ideas you've got going there - elemental themed maps is a terrific idea, and having the fight suspended above some kind of pitfall tends to be enjoyabel - hwoever, your concept drawing are as bad as one of mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 17, 2003 Author Share Posted October 17, 2003 Originally posted by Kengo Z, I like the ideas you've got going there - elemental themed maps is a terrific idea, and having the fight suspended above some kind of pitfall tends to be enjoyabel - hwoever, your concept drawing are as bad as one of mine You know it. I have no artistic skills, what so ever. Glad you like the ideas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 18, 2003 Author Share Posted October 18, 2003 http://members.lycos.co.uk/zedmaps/Radiant1.JPG http://members.lycos.co.uk/zedmaps/Radiant2.JPG http://members.lycos.co.uk/zedmaps/Radiant3.JPG http://members.lycos.co.uk/zedmaps/Radiant4.JPG http://members.lycos.co.uk/zedmaps/Radiant5.JPG Very VERY rough verisons. Hardest part is trying to figure out how I'm gonna do the water pipes..... I also am ognna make a Snow Based Map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 Lookin good so far You could either build the pipes through another part of the map or down the side of a wall or....i dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge2211 Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 THe angles and repeating textures...make it look like JK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lassev Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 Your map desperately cries out for some nice curves and patches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 19, 2003 Author Share Posted October 19, 2003 Originally posted by lassev Your map desperately cries out for some nice curves and patches... Yeh, I plan on making the rocks more curvey, but blocky too, and once I figure out where the pipe will go, I'll try to make it more of a circular shape, instead of a 9-Sided Polygon. I dunno if you can see it good in the pics, but at the bottom of the water area, there is a hole in the ground, which leads to the pipes, and the pipes bring you to an outer area, where it is being turned into acid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Originally posted by ZBomber Yeh, I plan on making the rocks more curvey, but blocky too, and once I figure out where the pipe will go, I'll try to make it more of a circular shape, instead of a 9-Sided Polygon. I dunno if you can see it good in the pics, but at the bottom of the water area, there is a hole in the ground, which leads to the pipes, and the pipes bring you to an outer area, where it is being turned into acid..... instead of making it acid you could perhaps make it into boiling water. maybe even turn that into like ctf and combine the fire idea with the water idea. just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 19, 2003 Author Share Posted October 19, 2003 Originally posted by InsaneSith instead of making it acid you could perhaps make it into boiling water. maybe even turn that into like ctf and combine the fire idea with the water idea. just a thought I like the CTF Idea, but in my opinion, they are too small for CTF Maps. They might even be too small for FFA, so I mgiht make them Duel..... Boiling water might be good, how could I make it thoguh. Maybe add alittle gof above the water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 what i mean is like take both the maps. put them in the same map and add a little middle area and the fire can be red base and the water be the blue base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 20, 2003 Author Share Posted October 20, 2003 Originally posted by InsaneSith what i mean is like take both the maps. put them in the same map and add a little middle area and the fire can be red base and the water be the blue base Yeh, but, I'd have to edit most of it. The Fire map is way smaller than the water Map. But MAYBE, I'll make a few maps, CTF, Duel (for each one) and FFA, each using the fir and Water Maps. Thanks for the ideas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 you could try to make some bubbling shaders for the boiling water then add in some fog to be steam. perhaps you could even make a fire monster using the sandcreature . actually i think i might do that. make a lava monster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 20, 2003 Author Share Posted October 20, 2003 Originally posted by InsaneSith you could try to make some bubbling shaders for the boiling water then add in some fog to be steam. perhaps you could even make a fire monster using the sandcreature . actually i think i might do that. make a lava monster... Ooh, If you make one, send it to me, and I'll put it in the map. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 Add the sound effect that sounds like its boiling. In jk2 it was slime.. ill look it up for JA... **** ok, didnt find much... you might want to be a little sneaky, and use the slime sound effect from JK2. Im not sure if its legal or not, but it would be better (for boiling water, it sounded like boiling water) You might want to put this sound in for a random effect (like one plays every 2 minutes) sound\player\lava_land.mp3 i know it says sound/player (its when the player falls into lava) but you really cant tell. If you have it play every 2 minutes, it would make it sound like the water splattered or something, lava and water sound pretty close together, and in game while playing, i doubt anyone would notice it was a lava sound, if they could even tell. Make fog for the steam. Its easier, and faster than creating a whole new .efx file. Also, try these .efx files, it would look pretty good... (im not sure how these look, im just guessing by there names) effects\volumetric\steam.efx effects\volumetric\steam_jet.efx Also, for the fire map, make sure you add in lots of fire sound effects. It makes it a lot more realistic. there are plenty of fire sounds in the assets0.pk3 file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 well i don't really like the included fire sounds but they could work. I might go out and set a fire sometime this week and make some sounds. (not an illegal fire, a bonfire in a fire pit ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 lol, i didnt play the sounds, i just saw fire1.mp3 fire2.mp3 flame_jet.mp3 Good luck Zbomber! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 20, 2003 Author Share Posted October 20, 2003 Originally posted by lukeskywalker1 lol, i didnt play the sounds, i just saw fire1.mp3 fire2.mp3 flame_jet.mp3 Good luck Zbomber! Thanks a ton. Very good suggestions, and I like the lava sound, which could be splashing Idea. Also, expect some of the Snow Level pics in the next few days. And if I didn't already mention, this will be my first map released to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 yeah, i remember when you first started making maps Zbomber anyways, are these going to be in a map pack, or individual? Also, depending on what you want for the snow map, this might be useful. Say you want a mountainous area, with valleys (im not sure what you want, and if dont want to, you dont have to! Its just a suggestion) so, a mountainous area, with valleys, sort of like hoth... try this: Easy Gen Dude, its the best way to make terrain. The best part about it is that it requires almost no work. Just simply make a greyscale .bmp, load it in easy gen, paint it, and your done! (well.. almost you'll see in the tutorial if your interested) it can be tough when your learning.. i had tons of problems, but in the end, it was worth it! And you can always add detail to it. It looks so awesome, and there were almost no maps in jk2 made using this technique that just this alone, with a skybox can pass for a whole map! Youlll barley use radiant at all. just a tip. Can u put snow in MP maps (like its falling from the sky?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 21, 2003 Author Share Posted October 21, 2003 Originally posted by lukeskywalker1 yeah, i remember when you first started making maps Zbomber anyways, are these going to be in a map pack, or individual? Also, depending on what you want for the snow map, this might be useful. Say you want a mountainous area, with valleys (im not sure what you want, and if dont want to, you dont have to! Its just a suggestion) so, a mountainous area, with valleys, sort of like hoth... try this: Easy Gen Dude, its the best way to make terrain. The best part about it is that it requires almost no work. Just simply make a greyscale .bmp, load it in easy gen, paint it, and your done! (well.. almost you'll see in the tutorial if your interested) it can be tough when your learning.. i had tons of problems, but in the end, it was worth it! And you can always add detail to it. It looks so awesome, and there were almost no maps in jk2 made using this technique that just this alone, with a skybox can pass for a whole map! Youlll barley use radiant at all. just a tip. Can u put snow in MP maps (like its falling from the sky?) Excellent, I was actually trying to find a good way to make mountains, since I couldn't get anyhtign to look good in Radiant. You can get snow if you add a FX_Runner, and its just like the SP version. EDIT - Yes, if they are released as FFA Maps, they will be released togetherm shouldn't be too hard, since they are basically small maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 kool, glad you like it. If you need any help just ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 21, 2003 Author Share Posted October 21, 2003 Originally posted by lukeskywalker1 kool, glad you like it. If you need any help just ask Yeh, I probably will. I'll start doing it tommarow, I won't get much done if i start tonight. Just wondering, what is a greyscale bmp? Like the Black and white option, I'm guesisng? I don't have photoshop on this PC, so all I have to work with At the moment is MSPaint.... :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 you dont need photoshop, ms paint will do nicley. Make sure your picture size is exaclty 33X33 (go to image, then click attributes, then change the width and the hight to 33 and 33) for the greyscale, its basically blask and white. Justy use different greys, black and white. the whiter it is, the higher it is. The blacker it is, the lower it is. 50% grey is exactly sea level (normal ground) what i do is, i make the edges mostly white (or close to it) that way your completly sorrounded by mountains... but it depends on what you want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 22, 2003 Author Share Posted October 22, 2003 Thanks, I finished it, and it looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Business_Eskimo Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Originally posted by lukeskywalker1 Add the sound effect that sounds like its boiling. In jk2 it was slime.. ill look it up for JA... ok, didnt find much... you might want to be a little sneaky, and use the slime sound effect from JK2. Im not sure if its legal or not, but it would be better (for boiling water, it sounded like boiling water) Yeah, that's perfectly legal. You can use sounds from any Raven game in any other Raven game as long it is noted in the readme file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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