Zavior Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 is it all in latin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Jesus does rise but that's when it ends. Having him convince the disciples would take away from the message of the passion. Passion being Latin for pain and suffering and as we know it to be, love. Jesus endured all that pain because he loves us. And no, it is not all in Latin. There's some Aramaic too. Not just for historical accuracy but so it doesn't convey to the world that Christianity is an American thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by DarkLord60 no kidding? No kidding. In fact, he talks about it all the time.. like in every interview.. or even short clip of him talking.... I really hope alot of people go to see this movie and will realize god loves them and that they need to follow christ to get to heaven. I hope it does at was intended and breaks the record for sales or whatever its called. Already broke the record... like 2 million in 24 hours.. maybe it was 20 mill... or 200 mill.. idk. but it broke a record. BTW, you realize, the real thing was worse than what was shown in the movie. One question about the movie, though. Does the movie cover the Resurrection of Christ as well as His crucifiction? The Resurrection is one of the most important parts of the story of Jesus. (it's why we celebrate Easter, after all) If it didnt tell the whole story, then, it shouldnt be shown. Oh yeah, if it added a bunch of stuff that didnt happen, it shouldnt be shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrylic Posted February 27, 2004 Author Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by Katarn07 This movie is by far the most moving movie I have ever seen. I had tears in my eyes and cringed every time a hand was layed on Jesus. It's one thing to have violence happen to fictional characters, but being a Christian and seeing this just did something to me. I hope more people would see it despite this sad tradgedy. I suppose if you cannot take its violent nature (its rated R for 'sequences of graphic violence' but really it should be R for 'sustained graphic violence'). I understand how it moves you and all...but cringing? These are just actors after all, not the real Jesus. But those are my thoughts (I'm a Catholic incase people are wondering or something) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I wanna see it but it's rated 18 over here. Bloody film ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by Acrylic I understand how it moves you and all...but cringing? These are just actors after all, not the real Jesus. But those are my thoughts (I'm a Catholic incase people are wondering or something) so is mel gibson and the movie was made entirely by a catholic crew, except some of the actors, It was even sent to the pope to be "allowed" in a sense. So basically it's a catholic movie. I saw bits and pieces and for someone not christian. I rather enjoyed it. While I don't believe jesus to be the son of god, or that their even is a god, I still don't think people should die just because they believe something different from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by InsaneSith While I don't believe jesus to be the son of god, or that their even is a god, I still don't think people should die just because they believe something different from you. Well, the Jewish people were extremely offened that Jesus called himself the Son of God. Back then, people were very violent (For example, they would stone people who sinned, like the adultrist.) And think about it. If someone today, went areound, saying he was the Son of God..... Many of us Christians would be upset and offeneded, and non-Christians would be thinking the guy is a wack job. I guess this was how it was with Jesus. Most of the Jews were offended, and the Romans thoguht he was a wacko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by ZBomber Well, the Jewish people were extremely offened that Jesus called himself the Son of God. Back then, people were very violent (For example, they would stone people who sinned, like the adultrist.) And think about it. If someone today, went areound, saying he was the Son of God..... Many of us Christians would be upset and offeneded, and non-Christians would be thinking the guy is a wack job. I guess this was how it was with Jesus. Most of the Jews were offended, and the Romans thoguht he was a wacko. yeah, but would you kill him for it? I'm just saying I don't think people should die just for their beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by InsaneSith yeah, but would you kill him for it? I'm just saying I don't think people should die just for their beliefs. Sadly, thats how peopel handed situations back then. In some places, its still handled that way. =S BTW - Jesus wasn't the only one killed for his beliefs. Many Saints were killed. People who die for their faith are matyrs (I think thats how its spelt ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by ZBomber Sadly, thats how peopel handed situations back then. In some places, its still handled that way. =S BTW - Jesus wasn't the only one killed for his beliefs. Many Saints were killed. People who die for their faith are matyrs (I think thats how its spelt ) While I'm not christian I'm not an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Martyr. Yes, Z's partially right. Not all the Jews were against Jesus, just the high priests for they felt he would disrupt their community of followers and if you see how far around the world Chrisitiany is spread, their fears were justified. Also, their beliefs in the Bible were only the Old Testament since they're the ones responsible for the New one and the laws were alot more severe. That's the key to it all; I'm really no expert on the matter. I know the stories in order and their meanings but am not sure about the different societies in the Bible. You should see the differences between the Jews in Moses time, to the time prior to their beying enslaved by the Babylonians, to Jesus time. And yes, Acrylic, watching as skin is ripped from flesh, fake or not, is really not an all to pretty thing to watch. The opening scene of Private Ryan turned my stomach over several times and that's why many people have a new found respect for veterans of all wars. I read some people feel the Passion should have a NC-17 rating (glad it didn't or else I couldn't have scene it) but the fact its about Jesus and has no sex in it gave it the R rating. I saw plenty of 10 year olds in the theater and they really had no reason to be there. Most were rushed outta there before the flogging scene which is the most violent part of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Well, hopefully I'll see it this weekend.... Also, am I the only one that thinks that God described in the old testament seems much more hateful then God beign described in the later Old Testament/New Testament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Oh, hell yeah. If you read the Old Testament, God comes across as down right evil and a pretty hateful guy. And, if there is a God - which I'm pretty sure there isn't - he is the most evil being to ever exist. Just my opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by The_One Oh, hell yeah. If you read the Old Testament, God comes across as down right evil and a pretty hateful guy. And, if there is a God - which I'm pretty sure there isn't - he is the most evil being to ever exist. Just my opinion... well, thats quite a strong opinion..... just wondering, have you read ANY of the New Testament? You'll see that he appears much more caring....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by InsaneSith While I'm not christian I'm not an idiot. I hope you don't mean by this that Christians are idiots, because I would hate to have to prove someone wrong.... Anyway, I believe there is a God, and that Jesus is his son, but this isn't the place to argue that... People die for their beliefs all the time. Even today. Look at Palestine and Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I giggled when I read the story about the lady dying. Does that make me a bad person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by Rogue Nine I giggled when I read the story about the lady dying. Does that make me a bad person? No. not at all. I giggled at the irony. It's sad but it is rather ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Originally posted by obi-wan13 I hope you don't mean by this that Christians are idiots, because I would hate to have to prove someone wrong.... Anyway, I believe there is a God, and that Jesus is his son, but this isn't the place to argue that... People die for their beliefs all the time. Even today. Look at Palestine and Israel. O_o He said although hes not Christian, he knows that people were killed back then, and if it was for their faith, they were called martyrs, hence, not being an idiot....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Originally posted by InsaneSith yeah, but would you kill him for it? I'm just saying I don't think people should die just for their beliefs. I have the answer to that. Here's some quotes taken outta one of the songs from Jesus Christ Superstar. Here's what the high priest Caiaphas has to say. I see bad things arising--the crowd crown him king Which the Romans would ban I see blood and destruction, our elimination because of one man Blood and destruction because of one man Here's what a fellow priest has to say. Where do we start with a man who is bigger Than John was when John did his Baptism thing? And Caiaphas's answer. Fools! You have no perception! The stakes we are gambling are frightenling high! We must crush him completely-- So like John before him, this Jesus must die For the sake of the nation this Jesus must die From a historian's point of view, it makes sense. You'd have to know more about the Roman Empire and how it all worked. The only reason Jesus was flogged by Pilate before his execution is Pilate found him to be innocent and hoped if he allowed his men to mess around with him the Jews would be happy enough and let him go free. And the only reason Pilate agreed to have Jesus killed is to prevent an uprising. And the main reasons the Priests wanted Jesus dead were because of his teachings and the fact he might do something to get Rome to come in and destroy the Jewish nation. And I started off way to many sentances with the word 'and.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeskywalker1 Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Originally posted by ZBomber Well, hopefully I'll see it this weekend.... Also, am I the only one that thinks that God described in the old testament seems much more hateful then God beign described in the later Old Testament/New Testament? Read through it again, youll see that God makes several caring decisions. God is the same as he was yesterday, and the same as he will be tommorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Originally posted by ZBomber O_o He said although hes not Christian, he knows that people were killed back then, and if it was for their faith, they were called martyrs, hence, not being an idiot....... I er...must have missed that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wilson Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Not wanting to offend any here with my post buts this is my 2 cents\pence. If there is a god, then he would have to be the greastest sh*t of all time. In the old Testament God was a being of war with no forgiving sins. he supposeddly killed all hummanity bar noah + family. H Gave man free will and didnt like the outcome. If you look at jesus teaching, i think (no clamin to be right) that many of jesus' ideals are very simmler to buddest and unlike the jews own views. there are records of a man that could well have been jesus in india around the time ol' jesus was ment to be alive. On the death - sad On the film - off to see it asap On the lightining - TWICE!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothiX Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 I saw the movie, didn't pay much attention. Two girls next to me, Dimmu Borgir playing on my discman. Ah well, at least I'm still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jed Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 I'm not Christian or any other related religion, but I'd still like to see this film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord60 Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Originally posted by Jed I'm not Christian or any other related religion, but I'd still like to see this film. Nither am I all though my grandpa is a rev. I think ill go see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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