reelguy227 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hi all,if you think the jedi profession will be much easier to accoomplish with the new revamp and will be overpopulated vote on my poll ,thanks Reelguy227 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Of course it's gonna be overpopulated (well, possibly), there's a system for a Player Controlled Jedi Council for the game. Even a Dark one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 i think jedi should be in the game but they should be rare and hard to gain as a profession,the idea of jedi enclaves and councils is the gayest thing ive ever heard ,there werent any councils during lukes time thats really stupid ,and i agree with others on the fact that they should sent out vader and fett to kill all the jedi even if me myself still wants to be one kind of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil_dude Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 there's to many already, this is gunna make it worse, if there gunna make Jedi easy to get they should add another profession like "Super Bounty Hunter" or sumtin lol, where u can work for Fett and hunt down Jedi, it'd make training harder for them and even out the odds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 Originally posted by lil_dude there's to many already, this is gunna make it worse, if there gunna make Jedi easy to get they should add another profession like "Super Bounty Hunter" or sumtin lol, where u can work for Fett and hunt down Jedi, it'd make training harder for them and even out the odds i totally agree!!!i was gonna be a jedi when i got the game ,but im a huge fan of sw and i would like to adhere to the story ,so im going to not be a jedi just to keep the numbers down and stay with the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 That's how it was supposed to be from the start, but people whined and the Devs caved. And back then the Bounty Hunter profession didn't work properly even. Still doesn't fully. That's why it was a bad thing to include Jedi from the start of. People are too selfish, we all know that, forgetting they are sharing a server and "life" with 1000's of others. All they want is Jedi. That's all they can see when they see the title Star Wars. There's nothing else. Which is sad, when you think of everything that Star Wars is. We'll see how this turns out, but about this thing I'm very sceptical about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobOMac2k2 Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Now I dont have the game...yet, so my word really means nothing here---remember that! I have been to a few forums in the past couple of weeks and Im really getting sick and tired of people crying about this Jedi thing. Now granted there werent many jedi in this time period...according to the movies books ect. But we are taking control of the SW Universe... we are changing the course of the time line in this game (to a degree) If this game was exactly like the move ect. we probably wouldnt like playing it. And besides if I was in this "universe" at this time and I just some how had force powers I would try my damndest to become a jedi, I dont know many that wouldnt. Hey, if someone is paying money to get this game, and paying money to play this game... if they want to be a jedi, you better damn well let them. If Im paying 200 dollars a year to play this game and I want to be a jedi...for that price I had better at least be given the option. I know many of you are die hard star wars fans (I used to be) but you have to remember this is just a game in which people pay to enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatoo Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 People just want to be heros or be evil and powerful. And they want the same they see in the movies. Thats why most people want to be a Jedi. It reminds them of the movies and they feel the power. If it keeps being so easy with this Jedi thing in SWG , it better be a "Jedi Galaxies"- game rather then Star Wars Galaxies. Because sooner or later there will be more Jedis then "civilians" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 Originally posted by Tatoo People just want to be heros or be evil and powerful. And they want the same they see in the movies. Thats why most people want to be a Jedi. It reminds them of the movies and they feel the power. If it keeps being so easy with this Jedi thing in SWG , it better be a "Jedi Galaxies"- game rather then Star Wars Galaxies. Because sooner or later there will be more Jedis then "civilians" i agree with tatoo!! if you are going to play in the star wars universe you better play star wars the way it was meant to be in this time line ,we die hard fans have a right to complain ,there were no jedi except for a few in that time period this new revamp sounds a lot easier than grinding professions. there better not be a lot of jedi hanging around or im going to become BH and hunt them all down even if i dont want to a be BH ,ill do it just to adhere to the storyline!! they shouldve made jedi a lot harder to become and they should have kept perma death in ,that would have really kept the numbers down. if they wanted to make a SW mmorpg with a ton of jedi they shouldve called it old republic galaxies !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamefls Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 they are a couple of jedi that really existed but they already made npcs of them and there was one enclave for the jedi at the time but it was on Belsavis but they all got killed by a fallen jedi master i beleive his name was Plett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterKakashi Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 How is it goin to be so easy to get? I mean they don't tell you whitch one is a FS quest so how will you even know? and someone plase explain to me how it is goin to be easy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted June 4, 2004 Author Share Posted June 4, 2004 Originally posted by flamefls they are a couple of jedi that really existed but they already made npcs of them and there was one enclave for the jedi at the time but it was on Belsavis but they all got killed by a fallen jedi master i beleive his name was Plett how did yu know all that stuff flame?well ok there were some jedi ,but not 100s like there is now.so that jedi enclave was destroyed ,so then that means there should be no jedi enclaves right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. uauhly Posted June 5, 2004 Share Posted June 5, 2004 At this time there was at least 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted June 5, 2004 Author Share Posted June 5, 2004 Originally posted by mr. uauhly At this time there was at least 100 no there werent ,where did yu get that info?the emperor and vader exterminated all of the jedi but 2 remember,yoda and obi wan kenobi,plus, there was that one enclave that flame was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Jack Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Originally posted by BobOMac2k2 Hey, if someone is paying money to get this game, and paying money to play this game... if they want to be a jedi, you better damn well let them. If Im paying 200 dollars a year to play this game and I want to be a jedi...for that price I had better at least be given the option. Yes I agree with you...... So when all you see running around in the game is Jedi and all the rest of the people are gone. The game will be so much more fun... ( Publish 11--- Jedi Wars ) A total revamp so that everyone is a Jedi, because that is what they are paying for... If you want to be a Jedi Play Jedi Knight Academy or better yet play KOTOR.... They are better less buggy games and you are guaranteed to be a Jedi. (........What SWG should have been..........) It should have been set in a time frame where there are thousands of Sith and Jedi. NPC Characters would be the top of each side until a PC accomplished a certain number of goals. Then an actual player character would be in a position like Darth Vader or Yoda. Make the game with no overlapping story so anything can happen and you don't have to worry about continuity. Focus totally on Jedi and make a few nonjedi professions for people to dabble in incase they didn't want to do combat. The odd thing is that idea I just wrote down seems to be what is slowly happening. All except the overlapping story and the fact you can't replace Darth Vader or the Emperor. The only Jedi that should have been in this game should have been NPCs. No ifs, buts, or doubts about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted June 8, 2004 Author Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Cosmos Jack Yes I agree with you...... So when all you see running around in the game is Jedi and all the rest of the people are gone. The game will be so much more fun... ( Publish 11--- Jedi Wars ) A total revamp so that everyone is a Jedi, because that is what they are paying for... If you want to be a Jedi Play Jedi Knight Academy or better yet play KOTOR.... They are better less buggy games and you are guaranteed to be a Jedi. (........What SWG should have been..........) It should have been set in a time frame where there are thousands of Sith and Jedi. NPC Characters would be the top of each side until a PC accomplished a certain number of goals. Then an actual player character would be in a position like Darth Vader or Yoda. Make the game with no overlapping story so anything can happen and you don't have to worry about continuity. Focus totally on Jedi and make a few nonjedi professions for people to dabble in incase they didn't want to do combat. The odd thing is that idea I just wrote down seems to be what is slowly happening. All except the overlapping story and the fact you can't replace Darth Vader or the Emperor. The only Jedi that should have been in this game should have been NPCs. No ifs, buts, or doubts about it. yu hit the nail on the head Cosmos!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Jack Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 I do have a certificate in carpentry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamefls Posted June 8, 2004 Share Posted June 8, 2004 all the jedi should be dead expect for the roogue and imperial jedi like Kam Solasar and jerec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted June 9, 2004 Author Share Posted June 9, 2004 Originally posted by flamefls all the jedi should be dead expect for the roogue and imperial jedi like Kam Solasar and jerec true ,very true.i totally agree with flame!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamefls Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 here is a complete list of the jedi sith or force adepts who should be alive 1. Luke Skywalker Jedi Trainee 2. Yoda Jedi Master 3 Shira Brie Adept Emperors hand 4. Callasta Jedi stuck in computer 5. Corran Horn Adept Cor Sec Officer 6.Jerec Sith Knight Emperors Hand 7.Kyle Katran Adept Rebel Commando 8. Mara Jade, Emperors Hand 9. Darth Vader Sith Knight 10.Emperor Palpatine Emperor of Galactic Empire 11. Leia Organa Adept Rebel leader 12. Kam Solusar Fallen Jedi Emperors Hand 13.Vergere Jedi Knight Yuuzhan Vong captive 14.Adalaic Braandl Imperial Inquistor 15.AdenLyn fallen jedi imperial inquistor 16. Marrek Stele Adept Emperors Hand 17.Vima Da Boda Adept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawaJoey Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 It would have been better to just not have jedi in the first place, but there are jedi. And they tried to make it hard to become one, but people still did it in mass, almost as if it were required. I want to see what the nature of these so called force quests will be. They better be way friggin hard. They better be so hard, that few people will actually complete them. But I don't think it's possible, because no matter how hard it is, people will ALWAYS find a way to rush through it. I think the quests should be something like finding completely random NPCs across the galaxy and doing all of their quests, and each account be assigned certain NPCs, which ones are assigned to you would be completely hidden (No holocrons to tell you where). There just has to be some way for it to be truly different for EVERYBODY, and make it IMPOSSIBLE to make a Guide to Grinding through it. Hopefully, this is the kind of thing SOE has in mind, but I'm not terribly optimistic, since they've caved in to the jedi more times than I can count. But one thing we know SOE did, and will help alleviate the Jedi problem, is the Force Sensitivity. Personally, I'd be content getting my force sensitivity bonuses and be on my way. I sincerely hope that a lot of people choose to just stick with being a "special person" instead of having to go all the way to JEDI MASTER. And it fits the continuity even! There are plenty of people who are "Force Sensitive" even during the OT era, but no one knows about it, because it pretty much takes another Jedi to realize that the force is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DarthMaulUK Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 The Jedi came along due to public demand. Since theres nothing else to do in the game, everyone wanted to be a Jedi. The developers do have a major problem on their hand now, because almost everyone, especially the power gamers want to be Jedi. And yes, you're paying good money to 'play' this game but bowing to pressure has created new problems. I think their so called creative team really need a lesson in how to create things that dont unbalance the game too much DMUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 I knew Jedi would be a bad thing to implement into this kind of game if it's not done right. And for awhile they actually did it right, but then they dropped Perma-Death. Adding Jedi should never have happened in the first place. Too much power involved for humans of our day and age to handle. Give them a taste of the power a Jedi possesses and they will soon want more. It's a snowball effect that the Devs should have figured out on their own. Hell, if I managed to figure that out before it got a problem, certaintly any fool would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reelguy227 Posted June 10, 2004 Author Share Posted June 10, 2004 Originally posted by Jan Gaarni I knew Jedi would be a bad thing to implement into this kind of game if it's not done right. And for awhile they actually did it right, but then they dropped Perma-Death. Adding Jedi should never have happened in the first place. Too much power involved for humans of our day and age to handle. Give them a taste of the power a Jedi possesses and they will soon want more. It's a snowball effect that the Devs should have figured out on their own. Hell, if I managed to figure that out before it got a problem, certaintly any fool would have. again i totally fricken agree!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DarthMaulUK Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 It was all about demand. If you take a look at the whole Jedi thing, you could tell it was a total rushed job. No thought or clue whatsoever. A Sony Trademark. People demanded Jedi and alot earlier than they expected I think...which made them rush around because players were getting bored. Because the timeline hasnt moved at all, has put them in a difficult situation. Lets face it, 80% of those playing want to be Jedi. Ive seen people buying Jedi accounts on Ebay for £800+! They really needed a side story to draw players away from the normal grinding xp. Give them proper real faction driven missions but they havent. So it serves them right. But as normal, its the players who are the ones made to suffer. The path to becoming a Jedi shouldnt have been money driven like it was - selling those stupid Holocrons for millions. Roll on the next revamp DMUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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