Sabre9 Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Honurz. Lamerz. Whinerz. We thought it we could contain it to JA/JO. We were WRONG. http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129439 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amidala from Chop Shop Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 ^first time I ever used one of those Prime, you madcap mischief maker!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_night Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by Sabre9 Honurz. Lamerz. Whinerz. We thought it we could contain it to JA/JO. We were WRONG. http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129439 They've been here ever since online games, get used to it. They're like coc.kroaches. (that shouldn't be sensored) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre9 Posted June 6, 2004 Author Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by Amidala from Chop Shop ^first time I ever used one of those Prime, you madcap mischief maker!!! Good, he *was* kidding then. Heh. But sorry, we gotta be vigilant. This nonsense has to be stopped the MINUTE it shows its ugly head, joke or no. This issue is just too important to take chances with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_night Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by Sabre9 Good, he *was* kidding then. Heh. But sorry, we gotta be vigilant. This nonsense has to be stopped the MINUTE it shows its ugly head, joke or no. This issue is just too important to take chances with. So you say that you want to stop people from playing the game how they wish, even if it wasn't meant to be played that way? I know that would violate a right somewhere if enough of it actually occured, lemme look through the ammendments and such. I'm not supporing honourz, I'm suporting freedom to play the game as you choose to, and F*** people who try to stop you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre9 Posted June 6, 2004 Author Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by AIVAS So you say that you want to stop people from playing the game how they wish, even if it wasn't meant to be played that way? I know that would violate a right somewhere if enough of it actually occured, lemme look through the ammendments and such.... Nope, not getting tractor-beamed into rehashing the basic argument... all I'll say is... Server exists... people on server playing one way... then couple people who don't want to play that way join up... start harrasing... I'm sure you can piece toghether what I mean. There've been enough posts on the subject... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_night Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by Sabre9 Nope, not getting tractor-beamed into rehashing the basic argument... all I'll say is... Server exists... people on server playing one way... then couple people who don't want to play that way join up... start harrasing... I'm sure you can piece toghether what I mean. There've been enough posts on the subject... Yeah, I agree that that is wrong, but if people wanna play honourz, only the server owner can make them stop. If it's not your server, you obey the rules, I'm agreeing with you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Jack Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 If you want a game where there is no form of honorable play to speak of Play HALO for the PC online. Everyone is killing everyone and using every possible trick in the book to win. The only think that really bothers me is on servers with Team killing enabled. The only true lame thing you can do in a Online game is constantly and purposely kill your teammates or lame objectives. Laming objectives happens in Siege maps on JKA a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 omfg liek dood!11 i ahd my pistal out pistoll = peac!!!!!111admin plzzz punish him!!!!!!1 u must protetc my honorz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_night Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by TK-8252 omfg liek dood!11 i ahd my pistal out pistoll = peac!!!!!111admin plzzz punish him!!!!!!1 u must protetc my honorz *TK is run over by me in a warthog* This is why I love TKing in halo, when you're on the team as idiots who actually do say sh- err, shtuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by AIVAS *TK is run over by me in a warthog* hey LAME!!!1 dood i had sabero ff and joo lamde me with thta pig!!11 admin PLZ Zban aivas plzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amidala from Chop Shop Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by AIVAS So you say that you want to stop people from playing the game how they wish, even if it wasn't meant to be played that way? I know that would violate a right somewhere if enough of it actually occured, lemme look through the ammendments and such. I'm not supporing honourz, I'm suporting freedom to play the game as you choose to, and F*** people who try to stop you. AIVAS, you raise a very interesting philisophical question. You are saying that "honor" people can distort and mutilate the game beyond all recognition because they have the "right" and "freedom" to play the game they want to, and, to quote you: ...I'm suporting freedom to play the game as you choose to, and F*** people who try to stop you. So apparently, these people have an unlimited right to "play" the game the way they want to, correct? OK, I can see you nodding your head yes. So let me give you some hypothetical cases (my apologies in advance to anyone who is offended by these hypothetical examples): CASE 1: some people make a server called the "Ku Klux Klan server". The MOTD is "White Power, death to all ni**ers and Jews". They have made skins that look like Ku Klux Klan robes, and have "klan" maps that feature burning crosses. They spawn unarmed bots that have the African American Human Male Jedi skin and chase them around shooting them, hacking them with lightsabers, and using Grip to strangle them to death. They attack and ampunish anyone who disagrees with or argues with them, and they require you to say something racist before beginning a duel with them. Under your theory of "they can play the game any way they want to, even though it wasn't designed to be played that way", there is nothing wrong with this, correct? CASE 2: some other people (maybe in Poland or Germany) make an "Auschwitz" or "Dachau" server. The MOTD is "Arbeit mach frei" ("Work will make you free"). The members of the clan that runs the server use either this skin: or this skin: The clan map looks like a concentration camp, and, well, I think I'll leave a description of what goes on there to your imagination. Under your theory of unlimited freedom to "play the game as you choose to, and F*** people who try to stop you", there is nothing wrong with this either, correct? Now, I'm not saying "honor" players are racists or sometimes behave like Nazis or anything, I am asking you if your philosophy would support those types of servers. If you say yes, then you are intellectually consistent. If you say no, in those cases that behavior goes over the line, then who gets to decide when people have gone over the line and should be criticized? You? Me? Kurgan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_night Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by Amidala from Chop Shop AIVAS, you raise a very interesting philisophical question. You are saying that "honor" people can distort and mutilate the game beyond all recognition because they have the "right" and "freedom" to play the game they want to, and, to quote you: So apparently, these people have an unlimited right to "play" the game the way they want to, correct? OK, I can see you nodding your head yes. So let me give you some hypothetical cases (my apologies in advance to anyone who is offended by these hypothetical examples): CASE 1: some people make a server called the "Ku Klux Klan server". The MOTD is "White Power, death to all ni**ers and Jews". They have made skins that look like Ku Klux Klan robes, and have "klan" maps that feature burning crosses. They spawn unarmed bots that have the African American Human Male Jedi skin and chase them around shooting them, hacking them with lightsabers, and using Grip to strangle them to death. They attack and ampunish anyone who disagrees with or argues with them, and they require you to say something racist before beginning a duel with them. Under your theory of "they can play the game any way they want to, even though it wasn't designed to be played that way", there is nothing wrong with this, correct? CASE 2: some other people (maybe in Poland or Germany) make an "Auschwitz" or "Dachau" server. The MOTD is "Arbeit mach frei" ("Work will make you free"). The members of the clan that runs the server use either this skin: or this skin: The clan map looks like a concentration camp, and, well, I think I'll leave a description of what goes on there to your imagination. Under your theory of unlimited freedom to "play the game as you choose to, and F*** people who try to stop you", there is nothing wrong with this either, correct? Now, I'm not saying "honor" players are racists or sometimes behave like Nazis or anything, I am asking you if your philosophy would support those types of servers. If you say yes, then you are intellectually consistent. If you say no, in those cases that behavior goes over the line, then who gets to decide when people have gone over the line and should be criticized? You? Me? Kurgan? I don't see what the problem is. Why shouldn't they? If they want to act against jews, or other ethnic/racial/religeous groups, let 'em, it's not like it's doing any damage to anything/one. But if they try to force that on other people NOT on their server, then that's different, as it may be against the server's rules. It may be wrong to be against any certain group of people, but if they are, hosting one server like that isn't going to change anything, other than keep them out of our servers. I mean, nobody is angry at christians for saying that us missing links don't exist do they? Hey, look! I GOT OVER IT. In a nutshell: If they wanna discriminate against anything/one on their server, that's their choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amidala from Chop Shop Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Thank you for answering my question honestly. You are intellectually consistent and true to your beliefs, and I respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 About the sw:bf honour stuff, i think its kinda sad you didn't think it was a joke. Especially from prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keshire Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 In a nutshell: If they wanna discriminate against anything/one on their server, that's their choice. Exactly. Let them be idiots on their own servers. When they grow up and realize they'll never truly be whatever they choice to roleplay then they can come join the competitive servers. But hey no one ever stops them from at least a little light hearted roleplaying that doesn't effect the flow of the game. like binding a key to say "hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut hut" as they go running around as a clone trooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kengo Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Sheesh, this 'Prime' fellow sure gets about doesn't he? Its strange that a lot of people took him seriously....it really is strange. Doesn't it look even the slightest bit too rediculous to have been serious? As Amidala said, AIVAS is consistent in his opinions. I just fall into a different school of thought that some things are inherently damanging even if they are within the confines of your own server or whatever, and that 'freedom' only streches so far until it comes back on itself and starts removing other freedoms. Thats just a different philosophical point of view, and not really related to this debate. I only play on two JA servers, and I've never had problems with RPGers on those, so I've never been worked up about this problem in the least. I'm amazed its so prominent in the community, but I don't play enough MP to really notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master William Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by TK-8252 omfg liek dood!11 i ahd my pistal out pistoll = peac!!!!!111admin plzzz punish him!!!!!!1 u must protetc my honorz noez u drity lmaer stfu or ill get teh amdin to punish jou kthxbyepwned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 I figured that it would be obvious that that post was a joke, but I guess not. I guess there aren't as many old time JO players there. I literally cut and paste the rules from the old JO saberist code thread and changed "saber" to "gun". I was hoping someone would call me on it. Most a pity. I figured that most people would realize how silly the idea was for Battlefront, and they did. I just wanted to point out that if it is silly there why isn't it silly in JO/JA? Because of lightsabers? Just trying to start a little debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victus Posted June 6, 2004 Share Posted June 6, 2004 Originally posted by Cosmos Jack If you want a game where there is no form of honorable play to speak of Play HALO for the PC online. Everyone is killing everyone and using every possible trick in the book to win. The only think that really bothers me is on servers with Team killing enabled. ehh I play Halo PC a lot and I don't know if you know this, but it's a First Person Shooter. WTF do you expect people to do? Not shoot you just because you don't have a gun? That is not how fighting works. TKing is left enabled so that we can keep a sense of "realism" to the game. It also prevents people from spamming nades or whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Originally posted by Master William noez u drity lmaer stfu or ill get teh amdin to punish jou kthxbyepwned WTFZ DOD@ I DIDNT ALME I GOT LAMEED!!111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master William Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 tyep /disco in consoel for kewl fx!!11 :D -=[]()_--{LOL}--_()[]=- -=[]()_--{GoOd FiGhT}--_()[]=- EDT: EIT:* EDIT*: /bind <letter> say <message> wifout teh < >'s ThInGs :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 how u bind chat???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolusiem Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 omggh omh omg liek typ3 /qui gon !!!111~~~ [====!!!warning!!!ROFLOLOLX1000!!!warning!!!!====] DO NOT ATAK UNARMED JEDI WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master William Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 wana j01n my sif lord klan??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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