Lorden Darkblade Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I've already disscussed this with RedHawke but now I want everybody opinions and some answers, if anyone has them, sometimes when I install a new MOD my game start to "create' bugs. Some things dont work properlly some people that shoud be killed can not die anymore and so on. Why in the name of GOD this only appears to happen with me?! Because I dont see anyone else here complaining about this. What could I always be doing wrong? If anyone has an asnwer to it please say it! I'm getting kinda tired that everytime this happens I have to CLEAN my Override folder and start ALL OVER AGAIN! And sometimes like now I get very frustated cuz I modified some MODs and I can not make my own MOD's to work anymore cuz I dont remeber which items they need and which items makes they need to appear properly like texture and etc etc etc. Please someone give me a LIGHT HERE! :cry8: :cry6: :crybaby: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Khasei Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Are you using the H-plug-in. There is a note that some of the mods have conflicts. I suppose that is what is happening. I tired to keep my mod in line with what was already release by including the proper entries in the distributed changed file. I guess in a way there is no way to avoid conflicts depending on which mods your install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 No, thats why I avoid to use the Holowan Plug-In. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Check the sticky above that discusses conflicts. It's impossible to give an answer to question when we don't know what mods you are trying to combine. Check the contents of your override folder and compare it with the original files you downloaded (assuming you kept the original package) to find out what mods conflict (yes, it requires a bit of searching). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 Well this is making me mad! I'll try to look at that topic, it's the second time this thing happens to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted June 16, 2004 Author Share Posted June 16, 2004 Well I've read the topic about the conflict's and nothing of that happens. In fact thats why I dont install T7nowhere's Plug-In. Cuz I'm afraid it may do the game has those type of erros that I have sometimes when I install new MODs. And none of them is conflicting. I was not asked to erase/replace no file in the Override. Actually what I was told, like I said in the first post, to do by RedHawke's is to when this happens clean my Override folder and put all MODs in there again. The worst part is that it works! How ridiculous can it be?! I'm not calling RedHawke ridiculous, I'm calling the situation ridiculous. All I do is remove the MODs and put them all back in there. That is trully ridiculous. What I want to know is, is there a way to fix this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T7nowhere Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 the best way to find conflicts is to install one moda at a time. I don't think anyone is telling you to remove the files from override then put them back in. wth would that do right. Install one mod at a time and if when your copying the file to override you are asked to overwrite a file check which files you are being asked to overwrite and say no to overwrite, after that you will know exactly the files that are conflicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom_Dealer Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 calm down abit mate. Your problem is probably with .2da files, people edit them in differant ways so one appearence.2da may work for one mod and not another. All the 2.da's you download are not the same, theyve been moddified differantly and therefore some mods wont work. I tend to try and use a 2da that a big mod has used, so it doesnt conflice (i.e. my portrait.2da works with the sith armarda mod). I suggest checking that you are not using a random 2da to support about 5 mods that need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 Ok I'll say this 1 more time only cuz I really dont think you people are actually reading my posts or I have a lousy english. I have NO FILES WITH THE SAME NAME! No file at all when I install a MOD ask to be replaced. Are you people reading?! The game simply GETS BUGGY when I install MODs and most of the times it does not get buggy! Then I have to clean the ENTIRE Override folder and install ALL AGAIN! There must be an answer for this! Now for the last time I dont get no questions to overwrite any file! Specially .2da files! The game simply crash! Like when it already happened in the Endar Spire and the Star Forge. If you think I'm making this up go see the thread in the Work Bech Forum about my problem with the Star Forge and about the Endar Spire one ask RedHawke about. I dont want to sound rude but I already told here in this post that I'm having no conflicts at all between my files! Something else must be wrong! The last Patch is 1.3 or 1.03 right I have the latest patch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colma Adawin Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Originally posted by ReLoaD2K Ok I'll say this 1 more time only cuz I really dont think you people are actually reading my posts or I have a lousy english. I have NO FILES WITH THE SAME NAME! No file at all when I install a MOD ask to be replaced. Are you people reading?! The game simply GETS BUGGY when I install MODs and most of the times it does not get buggy! Then I have to clean the ENTIRE Override folder and install ALL AGAIN! There must be an answer for this! Now for the last time I dont get no questions to overwrite any file! Specially .2da files! The game simply crash! Like when it already happened in the Endar Spire and the Star Forge. If you think I'm making this up go see the thread in the Work Bech Forum about my problem with the Star Forge and about the Endar Spire one ask RedHawke about. I dont want to sound rude but I already told here in this post that I'm having no conflicts at all between my files! Something else must be wrong! The last Patch is 1.3 or 1.03 right I have the latest patch! Remember the jedi code... ...there is no emotion, there is peace... ...hey this isn't like you, i know your abit miffed (annoyed) but getting annoyed doesnt help anyone, calm down, be at peace, like the jedi masters. LoL MattCole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggle Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 what specs does your pc have? i noticed that on low end systems running a lot of mods can cause more crashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 I'm not having crashes I'm having BUGS! The game itsefl dont start a script that it should! It's not a crash. Crash its when the game froze my game it's not frozing it is getting bugged! it dont complete things and animations as it should! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Did you back up your savegames? Could try an old save to see what happens. Kind of impossible to help you when the bugs are not described and when we don't know what mods you are using (there are hudreds of mods out there). What i would do is create a new folder and send everything you have in your override folder over there. Then reinstall the mods one by one. Pay specific attention to the .2da files, since it's the most common cause of conflicts. This can take time but there is no miracle solution for this...and you're the only one who can do it. Other question: what class is your PC? (per example Soldier 3, Guardian 8 ) Did you convert him to a weird single class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom_Dealer Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Originally posted by ReLoaD2K Ok I'll say this 1 more time only cuz I really dont think you people are actually reading my posts jesus, we are trying to help, getting stroppy is not going to solve anything., a 2da problem wont b fixed by simply removing everything then replacing the same files, i suggest clearing out your override folder then re-download everything. but only the stuff you want, if you get a multiple file name message when u try and put a new mod in, dont ignore it, check what the conflict mod is and decide between us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 The Problems I have ARE: In the Endar Spire when you have the choice to use the robot or the curcuit to kill the Sith's in the other door. I could only kill the RED one the other ones that are Silver Armor dont have armor at all! They are using the grey Sith Uniform and cat be killed. In the Star Forge right at the begining when you see Darth Malak speaks with his apprentice, the apprentice simple dont walk and dont talk with Malak. The MODs I use: RedHawke's Revan, Sith and Bastila Pack-Blasters Pack-Revan The White Booster Pack Illuzion69's Dual Weapon T7nowhere's LightSabers and DS equipment Kitty's No Fighters Malak369's LVL40 ( I already had the problem b4 this MOD) Talchia's KOTOR Arena 1.1 I gave up on Sith Armada after the Sidious issue, so I gues thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Originally posted by ReLoaD2K The Problems I have ARE: In the Endar Spire when you have the choice to use the robot or the curcuit to kill the Sith's in the other door. I could only kill the RED one the other ones that are Silver Armor dont have armor at all! They are using the grey Sith Uniform and cat be killed. In the Star Forge right at the begining when you see Darth Maul speaks with his apprentice, the apprentice simple dont walk and dont talk with Malak. Probably a problem of a utc file overriding another one: With KT check what is the utc file for the sith troopers and Darth Maul (Malak?) that you can't kill and check if you have a .utc file with the same name in your override folder. Start by opening the .utc file located in your override folder with a GFF editor ( you need to check some fields that you can't see with KT) and make sure Min1HP is set to 0. If this does not solve the problem, check if the contents of the script fields are the same (userdefinescript and spawnscript). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 Well it does not fix it. How does removing everything and reputting in the override folder would solve if it was a uti file? It is not a uti file. or if it is I have no idea how it can solve itself only be being recopied. If anyone wants I can send my override folder thru email or any other way. Just send me a PM with the way you want me to send it. And yes I typed wrong up there it was Darth Malak not Maul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colma Adawin Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Originally posted by ReLoaD2K If anyone wants I can send my override folder thru email or any other way. Just send me a PM with the way you want me to send it. i want to help, i've PM'ed my E-Mail to you. MattCole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Originally posted by ReLoaD2K Well it does not fix it. How does removing everything and reputting in the override folder would solve if it was a uti file? It is not a uti file. or if it is I have no idea how it can solve itself only be being recopied. If anyone wants I can send my override folder thru email or any other way. Just send me a PM with the way you want me to send it. And yes I typed wrong up there it was Darth Malak not Maul. Not a .uti file but a .utc file: the game sometimes reuse .utc files with the same name in different modules but the contents are different. So if you drop a .utc file in the override folder, it will override all the other .utc files with the same name in the game. If per example the userdefinedscript is different, the npc may not behave as expected. So, to pass those places where you have such bugs, you could either remove the .utc file from your override folder just for the time to pass a specific point and then put it back in there. Depending on the mod, perhaps you could modify the name of the file (but this is not always an option). The other solutionwould be to modify the scripts if the source is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 Same thing. How erasing all the Override and puutting all back there again would fix the problem? It's not that. It cant be unless we have a special utc that fix itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Originally posted by ReLoaD2K Same thing. How erasing all the Override and puutting all back there again would fix the problem? You would notice with which mod the problem occurs if you drop things one by one. It's not that. It cant be unless we have a special utc that fix itself. Huh? A utc that fix itself? I don't understand what you mean by that Did you even verified what i told you about the .utc before saying that it can't be that? The problems you described about npcs not reacting like they should looks like a typical .utc conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Originally posted by ReLoaD2K Are you people reading?! Please refrain from verbally attacking those who are trying to help you. Flames will not be tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted June 17, 2004 Author Share Posted June 17, 2004 How they would conflict if there are not more then 1 utc with the same name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Thanks for your input Prime . Originally posted by ReLoaD2K How they would conflict if there are not more then 1 utc with the same name? Reload2K: I understand that you have only one .utc in your override folder right? It could conflict with a .utc file in the game that uses the same name. The author of the mod may have extracted the utc from another module but that utc would have different contents but the same name so when you put it into your override folder, it overrides all the other utcs with the same name. Now, open KT, go to RIMs --> module where the bug occurs --> blueprint characters and check if there is a .utc with the same name as the .utc in your override folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colma Adawin Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 okay Dude i've played a wee bit with your override file and your problem with the 4 sith troopers that wont die is that you've added a mod that changed them into sith 'students'. i've also warped to Taris and all the original white sithtroopers are change to sith students and i think this is affecting your First part of the game, my advise so far, get rid of this mod. and about the Endar Spire footlocker mod ( the one where trask gets you and then you go to the footlocker and get the prototype stuff) could you be so kind as to E-mail that to me, thanx MattCole, more as i find it. PS. where were the other problem spots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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