Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Are the Imperials really bad? I dont think so because they started out good but just had bad leadership aka Emperor Palpatine but if Palpatine never went evil do you think the Imperials would have turned out good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Originally posted by HalfSwedeLarz Are the Imperials really bad? I dont think so because they started out good but just had bad leadership aka Emperor Palpatine but if Palpatine never went evil do you think the Imperials would have turned out good? no, because the only reason they came into existence was due to palpatines plan to gain all the power of the senate. So if he didn't become evil, there would have been no scheme going on, the sith wouldn't have been revealed or even recreated at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 I though they were created by that siphas dias guy(isnt that Darth Sidious?) but Obi-Wan went to kanimo and got the army accidently and then palpatine lead the army thats what i though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 wow well what about darth sidious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Sidious = Palpy = Sifo-Dyas Same guy, using different aliases for different purposes for his ultimate evil plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 They are all the same person?! No that cant be right. Hey people please vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Originally posted by HalfSwedeLarz They are all the same person?! No that cant be right. Hey people please vote But it is (not too sure about Syfo, I think that may have been Tyranus who ordered the clones, personal opinion).... unless GL uses some ridiculously stupid clone theory. & I vote NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 darth sidious = palpatine. sifo dyas was a jedi who was manipulated into ordering the clones and died. uhmm when i first heard this i was thinking about the way joruus C'boath manipulated the general in the end of the thrawn trilogy. it might have gone something like that. Wraith 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 so palpatines sort of a jedi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Homer Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Have you seen the original trilogy? If not I reccomend a viewing. There, Emporer Palpatine is the Dark Lord of the Sith and dissolves the senate; here Darth Sidious is Dark Lord of the Sith and Senator Palpatine just so happens to become Chancellor of the Senate. Convienient, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 the 3rd movie isnt out so i couldnt haveseen the complete 1st trilogy but i have seen the old movies ALL of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 ok but isnt sidious a sith lord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 *cough*THE*cough* Sith Lord/Master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 so then why cant the jedi sense it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 AotC... Yoda, "The dark side clouds everything..." Mace Windu, "Perhaps it's time to inform the senate our ability to use the force has dimminished..." Yoda, "Only the dark lord of the sith knows of our weakness..." & that would be the great puppeteer Sidious pulling all the strings. Hope that atleast helps answer some of your questions. Whoops forgot 1 Tyranus, "The dark side of the force has clouded their vision.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzyfreaker Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Sypho-dias (sp?) is not sidious. Wouldn't you think the Jedi Counsel (sp again?) would notice that Palpy was sitting in the room pretending to be a jedi? I mean Palpy looks like Sidious and vice versa... I think Sypho-dias is dead and somebody used his name to order the clones. I mean, if Kamino isn't in the republic, how would they know what the Jedi Counsel looks like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 I think Sifo is Tyranus. It makes sense. I think Tyranus contacted Kamino under the name Syfo, concealing his true identity so he wouldn't be noticed in battle against the clones he ordered in the first place. And all of it to serve Palpy's purpose. Palpy controls both the Republic and the Seperatists, and the only ones who know that are himself and Tyranus. And me. And now you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 yea its all becoming clear now ok i do think syfo is dooku and palpatine is sidious because only dooku has seen sidious' face so they are on the same side but no one else knows. that is one EVIL ultimate plan! DANG lol but i still like the imperials because i like their armor (the stormtrooper armor and stuff) I have another question the clone army is clones but in the ORIGINAL star wars movies are the imperials stilll clones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Now that is a good question... unfortunately no one knows for sure... However it is very likely thet a big part of the Empire's troops are in fact clones. But if they are, they are not the remnants of the clone wars, that would make them too old (in there sixties) because of the growth acceleration (AOTC). It is still possible that they are a new generation of clones orderd by Palpatine. Still, I do beleive some of the Empire's stormtroopers are not clones, they probably just enlisted or were forced to enlist after their world was conquered... this is only speculation though... as of now the answer is unknown and I wouldn't be surprised it it still was after ep3 is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 yea that makes sense because in EU the cloning was started again and there was a vader clone and a luke clone and an emperor clone so i agree with CoupeS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzyfreaker Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 no dimwit, he means that some stormtroopers were former clonetroopers. And yes, some stormies were recruited because there are imperial stormtrooper training planets and you don't need to train a battle weathered clone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 I KNOW! i was just giving an example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 Originally posted by .:CoupeS:. Now that is a good question... unfortunately no one knows for sure... However it is very likely thet a big part of the Empire's troops are in fact clones. But if they are, they are not the remnants of the clone wars, that would make them too old (in there sixties) because of the growth acceleration (AOTC). It is still possible that they are a new generation of clones orderd by Palpatine. Still, I do beleive some of the Empire's stormtroopers are not clones, they probably just enlisted or were forced to enlist after their world was conquered... Agrees. Kind of like a 1/2 clones, 1/2 enlisted. Sort of explains why some were such crap shots. Like making a copy of a tape from a copy, from another copy & so on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt-Man Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 i think sifo was a power/battle hungry turned(fallen?) jedi never really knew he was ordering clones for what was goign to happen (my vice principlas name is Mr. Kamino, maybe he knows some more info:p ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HalfSwedeLarz Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 ok yhis is getting confusing now so many different theories *turns int a scientist* i cant prove anything lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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