90SK Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Woah, how could I have missed this! Superb job cchargin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimaon Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 Originally posted by Hive Save your work; there's already an (unused) Mandalore model without a helmet in the game... Looks pretty good, too. ^^; I know that, but what I meant is I discovered as soon as I changed it to the helmetless model, the armor is locked in place. Thanks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regent Posted March 13, 2005 Share Posted March 13, 2005 It works great with my TSL models now, but I've gotten a strange error when trying to import one. MAXScript Rollout Handler Exception -- Unknown property: "frameEnd" in $Editable_Mesh:glas_brk @ [-148.685471,0.479004,160.577011] I'm not sure if it's caused by the model conversion or NWmax since all of the others work just fine. Error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cchargin Posted March 13, 2005 Author Share Posted March 13, 2005 Hello, It works great with my TSL models now, but I've gotten a strange error when trying to import one. hmmm, I took a look at it and it seems to be an animation controller problem. I will look into it and try to figure out what the issue is. A work around is to uncheck the "Extract animations" option before exporting to ascii. This should get you a model that you can import into nwmax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Is there any way to tell the program to convert all files in a given directory? I find it to be quite tedios to manually convert files 1 by 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cchargin Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 Hello, Is there any way to tell the program to convert all files in a given directory? Sure! You can run MDLOps from a command line where you can use file globbing (i.e. c:\models\*.mdl) Check the readme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Tetra Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by Hive Is there any way to tell the program to convert all files in a given directory? I find it to be quite tedios to manually convert files 1 by 1... If you're using Kotor Tool to extract your models before conversion, you can also just double-click on the first model you want to extract, specify how many total you want to process (including the clicked one), and Kotor Tool will extract each .mdl and .mdx pair, convert them (using Kotor Tool's own MDLOps) and put all the files in a directory for you. I wil also extract all of the required textures as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by cchargin Hello, Sure! You can run MDLOps from a command line where you can use file globbing (i.e. c:\models\*.mdl) Check the readme. Oh I'm sorry, I didn't see that. I guess I should read more carefully. Thanks for the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by Fred Tetra If you're using Kotor Tool to extract your models before conversion, you can also just double-click on the first model you want to extract, specify how many total you want to process (including the clicked one), and Kotor Tool will extract each .mdl and .mdx pair, convert them (using Kotor Tool's own MDLOps) and put all the files in a directory for you. I wil also extract all of the required textures as well. Yeah I already did that, an excellent feature you implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Oh, and another question: is it possible to leave out the '-ascii-kx-bin' from the filenames? I'd love if it would - instead of adding 'kx-bin' after the '-ascii' part - that, instead, the '-ascii' part was removed... Can this be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 You can do it manually at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by Prime You can do it manually at least... I know. But my latest conversion included 48 files (24 *.mdx and 24 *.mdl), so I would much appreciate if there was another way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Tetra Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by Hive I know. But my latest conversion included 48 files (24 *.mdx and 24 *.mdl), so I would much appreciate if there was another way... So which direction are you trying to go with your conversions? Game->Max or the other way around? I say this because I am considering adding a drag-and-drop conversion feature to Kotor Tool that would do bunches of external files in one shot. Please describe in more detail what it is you're trying to do and I'll see if this matches up with what I had in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by Fred Tetra So which direction are you trying to go with your conversions? Game->Max or the other way around? I say this because I am considering adding a drag-and-drop conversion feature to Kotor Tool that would do bunches of external files in one shot. Please describe in more detail what it is you're trying to do and I'll see if this matches up with what I had in mind. I was trying to convert some K1 models for K2. First, I use your program to mass-convert to the ascii format. Then, I use MDLops to convert them to the K2 format. And then, the renaming begins (since I prefer them to have the original names). If possible, an "extract and convert from Kx to Kx" option would be nice. But I do now know whether it's feasible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by Hive I was trying to convert some K1 models for K2. Unfortuntely, porting assets from one Lucasarts game to another is again Lucasarts policy and Holowan Laboratory rules. Please do not discuss such topics on these boards. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by Prime Unfortuntely, porting assets from one Lucasarts game to another is again Lucasarts policy and Holowan Laboratory rules. Please do not discuss such topics on these boards. Thanks. I am aware of that. Jeez, calm down. I have noticed that some people here jump to conclusions a bit too much. Could it be that I have some custom made models from K1 which I have permission to convert? I haven't discussed porting anything in this thread. Yes, the method I'm asking about *can* be used that way - but it doesn't have to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkkender Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by Hive I am aware of that. Jeez, calm down. I have noticed that some people here jump to conclusions a bit too much. Could it be that I have some custom made models from K1 which I have permission to convert? I haven't discussed porting anything in this thread. Yes, the method I'm asking about *can* be used that way - but it doesn't have to be. When you begin to ask ambiguos questions that can get the members of these modding forums in trouble it is in the Authority of the Moderators such as Prime to reiterate the rules so as to protect the interests of the forums. If it seems that many of us are quick to point out the rules concerning porting of resources it is because not a one of us wishes to get into legal trouble with the developers of these games. That being said if when you phrase your questions from the beginning being as clear as possible that you intend to convert custom made models from one game to the other without using original game resources not a single person here could scold you for that. I will at this time cease off-topic discussion and return control to cchargin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cchargin Posted March 20, 2005 Author Share Posted March 20, 2005 hi, I will at this time cease off-topic discussion and return control to cchargin. Uh, did I miss something? Oh, and another question: is it possible to leave out the '-ascii-kx-bin' from the filenames? I'd love if it would - instead of adding 'kx-bin' after the '-ascii' part - that, instead, the '-ascii' part was removed... A common question I get asked is "where did my file go?" It is usually in reference to nwmax which you are never quite sure where your file will end up, or what it will be named. So I decided to make MDLOps as unambigous as possible with naming. If you want to mess around with Perl the scripts for MDLOps are in the same folder as the executable. I will look into custom output names as a possible feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Originally posted by Hive I am aware of that. Jeez, calm down. You should take your own advice. Originally posted by Hive I have noticed that some people here jump to conclusions a bit too much. We can only make conclusions from what you write. Surely you can see why moderators would get the impression that you were taking about converting KOTOR models to TSL when you wrote, "convert some K1 models for K2." Originally posted by Hive Could it be that I have some custom made models from K1 which I have permission to convert? Sure. But it doesn't come across that way, especially when you don't say that. Originally posted by Hive I haven't discussed porting anything in this thread. Yes, the method I'm asking about *can* be used that way - but it doesn't have to be. Yes you did. You discussed converting K1 models for K2. Look, it is a serious subject since technically we shouldn't really be modding KOTOR at all. Porting lucasarts material to other games is a serious violation that could potentially lead to Holowan Laboratories getting shut down. Thus, us moderators try to be vigilant about such discussion. So in the future, please be a bit more specific, so we can avoid any problems. We are not trying to be discussion nazis, we are just trying to avoid potential trouble. Now, back on topic please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Originally posted by Prime You should take your own advice. I'm sorry, I meant no offense. It's just that I personally feel there's a witch-hunt going on regarding this subject. We can only make conclusions from what you write. Surely you can see why moderators would get the impression that you were taking about converting KOTOR models to TSL when you wrote, "convert some K1 models for K2." I suppose that's true. Sure. But it doesn't come across that way, especially when you don't say that. It's just that I'm not used to such a modding environment. The games I usually mod have modding support from the developers, and no talk about sueing modders or shutting down anything ever comes up. Yes you did. You discussed converting K1 models for K2. Again, you are right. But like I said: I'm not used to LucasArts unfriendly behaviour, so I didn't quite expect such reactions. Look, it is a serious subject since technically we shouldn't really be modding KOTOR at all. Porting lucasarts material to other games is a serious violation that could potentially lead to Holowan Laboratories getting shut down. Thus, us moderators try to be vigilant about such discussion. So in the future, please be a bit more specific, so we can avoid any problems. We are not trying to be discussion nazis, we are just trying to avoid potential trouble. You know LucasArts better than I - but if they would indeed be willing to try and shut down the entire forum because one member - against the forum rules - would do a port, then I have no respect for them at all. But I do not want to bring this forum into trouble, so I will try to think twice when phrasing another question that might be understood in more than one way. Now, back on topic please. Sir, yes sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Originally posted by Hive You know LucasArts better than I - but if they would indeed be willing to try and shut down the entire forum because one member - against the forum rules - would do a port, then I have no respect for them at all. It wouldn't be because of one member, but we are just trying to enforce the rules equally with everyone. We feel it is better to avoid the topic all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster1 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 WOW!!! Very Very Good job!!! it's lots of fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I'm afraid this topic is kind of...old. Old news, you know? Check out the dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JdNoa Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 I've been making some changes to mdlops (mostly porting code over from Torlack's NWN model de/compiler) so we could add some custom animations for our project. I'm uneasy about posting changes to someone else's code without permission but cchargin hasn't responded to my email yet, and I'm about to get too busy to work on this for a while. (The program is GPL so technically it's okay to post changes but if you think this is inappropriate please let me know and I'll remove it). We've successfully imported animations on s_male02 and hk47. I haven't had time to do much testing outside of what we needed. If you want to try this, you'll need perl installed, plus a couple of optional packages (instructions in the zip, "installing perl.txt".) You can download the modified mdlops perl scripts HERE. The usual caveats/issues: - imported models may crash your game - if you move skin mesh nodes the model in-game gets all weird and elongated and messed up, like something from Silent Hill - we've only tried this with character models, and only a couple of those at that - There's a bug somewhere in conversion to ascii that sometimes makes the last frame of an animation messed up. An example is in p_mira_bb at the end of CUT027. I think it's continuing a motion that should have been stopped... and if it's the last animation and you want to add a new one after, the motion keeps going into the beginning of the new one! I'm hopeful someone who knows more about animations will be able to tell why this is happening... [edit:] - If you converted from binary to ascii with a previous version of mdlops, I'd re-convert. If you have an animation you want to save you can copy and paste it into the newly converted ascii model. When testing, it's nice to name your animation pause1. That way you can see it as soon as you load the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 I've been making some changes to mdlops so we could add some custom animations for our project... We've successfully imported animations on s_male02 and hk47... What a nice surprise! Thank you JDNoa! Since cchargin did cite the GPL license agreement, there's no reason to take this down and I think if we did, there'd be a good chance of starting a riot. When testing, it's nice to name your animation pause1. That way you can see it as soon as you load the game. Good to note that. If you want to try this, you'll need perl installed, plus a couple of optional packages (instructions in the zip, "installing perl.txt".)If you like I could help package this into an EXE...? See first post of this thread for a link Edit: what is the mdlops.tws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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