Mike Windu Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Originally posted by CapNColostomy So you can stop blaming us, and start pissing and moaning to the Dutch. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Oops. Yeah, nice catch Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 I believe the point the gentlemen was making was that American consumer culture has butchered the original traditions associated with Christmas, turning them into flat-pack supermarket trashiness, Colostomy. Not that America invented St. Nicky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_hill987 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 No, I think it was the Germans. He used to be green aswell, [bitter]untill coke got hold of him[/bitter]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Originally posted by Spider AL I believe the point the gentlemen was making was that American consumer culture has butchered the original traditions associated with Christmas, turning them into flat-pack supermarket trashiness, Colostomy. Not that America invented St. Nicky... This I agree with.... but it didnt start or stop with Christmas.... Mothers Day, Fathers Day, Valentines Day all seem to keep juggernauts like Target/Kmart and Hallmark tickin along.... what makes me even more sad about chistmas is that consumer fever seems to have hit countries that arent even Christian, like Japan, South Korea and even Turkey(I know this because Im Turkish)..... I dunno, I dont get it. I only had to start worrying about 'celebrating' christmas when i moved in with my gf 4 years ago. All it is now its an extra bit of spending in december, it doesnt add to or detract from the value of jesus(or Hazreti Isah as he is calle in the Kuran) teachings... I would like to add Isah, although being a very important prophet in the islamic faith doesnt get the same treatment(in fact none of the islamic prophets do).... so, damn the dutch and the yanks for ruining christmas then... The Dutch are partially excused because they sell legal pot and have top quality porn ah, thats is what I would like for christmas mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 The Americans are partially excused because they sell illegal pot and have top quality porn ah, thats is what I would like for christmas mtfbwya Fixed yet again Honestly, it's not our fault Santa has corporate endorsements! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrylic Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Originally posted by Mike Windu Fixed yet again Actually, marijuana is legal in Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Originally posted by Acrylic Actually, marijuana is legal in Holland. Read the misquote by Mike again. He replaced Dutch with Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Dravis Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Originally posted by ET Warrior I like the food, I like the day, but in the end, I like the family. Thanksgiving is a wonderful excuse for our entire family to come together for one day (40 people under my roof). we eat, we talk, we laugh, we play games. It's just a really fun day where I get to family I don't see much. This year we had relatives from Boston who I haven't seen in 5 years, and I REALLY enjoyed that. So you can rip on the commercialization of holidays if you want, and i'll agree. But the things I take from Thanksgiving and christmas aren't the gifts, they're the moments with family in my memories. Exactly. Except I don't have relatives in Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Thanksgiving is a wonderful excuse for our entire family to come together My family doesn't need an excuse. Holidays sux0rz! Honestly, it's not our fault Santa has corporate endorsements!Billy-Bob Thornton is the definitive Santa. You must see the movie, provided you're old enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 *sniff* I don't celebrate Thanksgiving... No Turkeys here either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothiX Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 You can go blame the Dutch for Santa Claus, but our "Sinterklaas" doesn't have anything to do with Christmas at all. It's just an old man in a dress, that loves children, and brings them presents on his birthday - December 5th. Then again, Americans always sucked when it comes to rip-offs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Exactly, i won't start 'moaning and pissing on the Dutch' because: 1.I'm Dutch. 2. we didn't ruin christmas with it. Over here, it's a tradition to give eachother presents at December the 5th. That way, we could celebrate christmas the way it should be, in my opinion. And Cap'n... I called our Christmas more 'Good and pure' because we don't have any commercial crap attached to it. EDIT: Y'know what? I'll just stop right here. If you want to blame us Dutch, at least know that I disagree for said reasons. The least thing i wanted to do with that one comment, was to hijack this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 generalizations... generalizations... tsk tsk. Pay attention to this. We're not all fat, greedy, money laundering, *insert more generalizations here* Americans. Some of us do know what Christmas truly means: which is simply enjoy your family, enjoy your life, share your love for each other... I'm sure some of your Dutchies also use Christmas as some sort of corporate money scheme too. So as the CapN well put: "Piss and moan" at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BongoBob Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 To sum this thread up... Person1:HOORAY FOR *insert holiday here*!!! Person2:BOO! *insert person 1's country* f***ed around with *said holiday* and is no longer *insert some purpose*. Person1:It isnt' like that. Person2:*insert generalization of Person1's people* Person1:We aren't all *said generalization*. Person2:Yes you are. Person1:No we aren't. Person2:Yes you are. Blah blah blah blah. Americans are greedy fat assholes. English all have bad teeth and are snooty. Just about everyplace can have a generalization. But guess what? 95% of the time they are untrue. Now enough pissing and moaning at each others religions/country/people and get back on the subject at hand...turkey is delicious. PS:I don't believe in the generalisations btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 I'm person 2! And... you do like generalizations. You paraphrased this thread and implied that it was a debate thread! hah! eat your pancakes... beeotch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Originally posted by BongoBob To sum this thread up... *insert person 1's country* f***ed around with *said holiday* and is no longer *insert some purpose* ...turkey is delicious. Turkey is a wonderful holiday destination as well as holiday meal But surely, generalisation or not, it's obviously the *americans* that have ruined EVERYTHING for EVERYONE, EVER, ALL THE TIME, EVEN TODAY ! mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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