SkinWalker Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 On the 700-Club’s pseudo-news show this morning |1|., Pat Robertson’s pseudo-anchor read a so-called news story about how “Target has banned Salvation Army bell ringers from it’s stores,” and how “Christian organizations are calling for a boycott” in either an attempt to intimidate or punish Target for it’s decision. The “news cast” didn’t make mention of the fact that Target had traditionally had a “no-solicitation policy” and had made unfair exemptions in favor of the Salvation Army until now. Nor did the broadcast mention that many stores and businesses have always had similar policies that excluded bell ringers |2|. CBN did, however, note this on their website |3|. CBN was quick, though, to point out on both the website and in the broadcast that the Salvation Army raised $90 million dollars and that Target was responsible for 10% of that effort last year. What they failed to mention was that the Salvation Army isn’t even planning on putting bell ringers at many stores this year, instead we’ll see “cardboard, mechanical cut-outs.” CBN / Robertson also failed to make note that Target announced this decision 12 months ago in order to give the Salvation Army time to adjust and that they based this decision on being fair with other non-profit charities. Charities that would legitimately have a grievance by not also being represented. CBN also failed to note that Target gives over $2 million per week “to education, the arts, and social services |4|. But Robertson, after his stooge said, “back to you Pat,” shook his head and said, “you know, Walmart is a fine company... good prices... quality products...” Walmart is quoted by Fortune as: “Illegal immigrants mopping its floors. Workers locked inside overnight. A big gender discrimination suit...” Walmart, by the way, has limited hours in which bell-ringers are allowed on their premises |5|. It seems clear that Robertson and his ilk could care less about what a company’s social value truly is. Their main concern is that the money that a company gives to charity goes to their charities. That, ladies and gentlemen, is distinctly not a very Christian way of doing business. Don’t boycott Target. Boycott Pat Robertson. Sources 1. Robertson, Pat (12/14/04). 700 Club’s CBN News 2. Glanton, Dahleen (12/14/04). Salvation Army mans kettles with mechanized cutouts. KansasCity.com 3. Griffith, Wendy (2004). Target’s Salvation Army Ban Unpopular with Some Shoppers. CBN.com 4. Target (2004) Community Giving. Target Website. 5. Useem, Jerry (2004) Should We Admire Wal-Mart? Fortune Magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Originally posted by SkinWalker Boycott Pat Robertson. Already way ahead of you. By the way, Pat Buchanan mentions this whole Target flap in his online column this week as well. It felt like a lot of sound and fury signifing nothing when I read it there... although Buchanan goes one step further and blames the whole thing on homosexuals as well! The whole article comes down to this premise: It's just one more way the poor, unfortunate Christian majority is being oppressed and thier way of life forever destroyed... Interesting reading... check it out here: http://www.theamericancause.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 if these people are so happy to donate money, why can't they bother to just go to the salvation army local offices and donate, that's what I do. Never have donated to the people with the bells. Always gone to the head office in the local area to donate, mainly because you'll be sure the Salvation army gets it and the person doesn't hand scoop it out before they turn in their earnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipperthefrog Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Why wouldn't Target want salvation army out there?Is it costing them money? Originally posted by InsaneSith ... and the person doesn't hand scoop it out before they turn in their earnings. That don't sound like a bad idea! I congradulate anyone who does this. Those bell ringer people are obviosly underpaid for standing out in the cold all day. A bell ringer grabing some of the donations is not what i consider a theift, but a tax on the greedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrylic Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Originally posted by kipperthefrog Why wouldn't Target want salvation army out there?Is it costing them money? That don't sound like a bad idea! I congradulate anyone who does this. Those bell ringer people are obviosly underpaid for standing out in the cold all day. A bell ringer grabing some of the donations is not what i consider a theift, but a tax on the greedy. Thats stealing someone's money who wants to help people in need. And boy, is it ever a theft. How could you have a good concious after doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 I like to steal money out of the Salvation army drop points right after I beat up small children and steal their bicycles. Then I push old people in front of oncoming traffic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Originally posted by kipperthefrog That don't sound like a bad idea! I congradulate anyone who does this. Those bell ringer people are obviosly underpaid for standing out in the cold all day. A bell ringer grabing some of the donations is not what i consider a theift, but a tax on the greedy. ... it's a volunteer job. As in they do it because they want to. It has no pay at all. stfukthxbai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Originally posted by kipperthefrog but a tax on the greedy. Yeah, those people donating money to charity and the poor people who have almost nothing sure are greedy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckcsaber Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 That don't sound like a bad idea! I congradulate anyone who does this. Those bell ringer people are obviosly underpaid for standing out in the cold all day. A bell ringer grabing some of the donations is not what i consider a theift, but a tax on the greedy. O.O Anyways, I've always thought that the CBN and those running it are a bunch of idiots looking to further separate and complicate their skewed vision of faith from their so called "oppressors". Their actions and words are despicable in that they can be very misleading to people of the Christian faith. People like that not only give a bad name to Christians, but are actually going against the beliefs and morals of the religion they say they represent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 This doesn't really contribute to the debate, or lack of debate, so it'll probably be deleted. But I'd like to chime in and say that ET is 2/2 for funny remarks in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipperthefrog Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I just talked t one of those bell ringers. he said it was a boring job. He said the buckets have a lock on it so you can't get in. ...Althogh you can still tip the bucket upside down.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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