swphreak Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 NJO rocks. I also like the Old Republic with Exar Kun and even earlier with Naga Sadow and the Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 The entirety of the fall of Coruscant to the Vong is in Star by Star. Although the book Traitor lets you find out what happens to the planet after it is controlled by the Yuuzhan Vong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Originally posted by Pho3nix That Y V **** pretty much sucks....I mean they DO look like a species from Star Trek. And Chewie dying sucks...and it's sad Those Star Wars movies pretty much suck....I mean they DO look like a species from ET: The Extra Terrestrial. And Obi Wan dying sucks...and it's sad ......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin Those Star Wars movies pretty much suck....I mean they DO look like a species from ET: The Extra Terrestrial. And Obi Wan dying sucks...and it's sad ......................... LMAO....I love such freakish saracsm Bravo Shok ! I like it when ppl say "OMFG that SUX ! Its like Star Trek" and dont know much about Star trek either, just what they think ST is like from seeing a cpl of movies and a cpl of episodes here and there.... It just liek me saying Harry potter is Just like LOTR because is has wizards n stuff I like hearing insights and criticisms of informed people, wankers that just make up their mind without substantiation are just ignorant. I can only hope for them that this mode of thought does not carry into their everyday lives.... mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 Originally posted by Lynk Former you've already got an NJO thread open, use that. indeed. especially since a few of us had mentioned that over there(including myself)....... yes, Star by Star it is, or as us njo phreaks call it ...SBS Lynk who do I have to kill to be EU mod...for the listed mods in the EU forum are quite dull in their knowledge and hardly around.... thank the maker SWPhreak and Jan Gaarni come around..... But what the punters need is a local boy.... Leper, It seems strange to read SBS after VP....so very strange..you miss all the build up, and totally defeat the beauty of a multi-book story arc..... I'd suggets reading "X-Wing : Wedge's gamble" and follow how the new republic got corucsant to begin with(it didnt happen immediately after ROTJs events) mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 You have to fight me to the death, Astro. Well... Lynk should have just merged this thread with the other :/ And I'd suggest reading all of the NJO, in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Originally posted by Cyborgninja well that is about worse than boba fetts so called death Go read The Unifying Force, you'll be in for quite a surprise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 Leper, It seems strange to read SBS after VP....so very strange..you miss all the build up, and totally defeat the beauty of a multi-book story arc..... I'd suggets reading "X-Wing : Wedge's gamble" and follow how the new republic got corucsant to begin with(it didnt happen immediately after ROTJs events) actually im following it perfectly, it helped that Star By Star explains near the start in about a page and a half everything that has already happened up to that point. besides im a student i cant afford to buy every book in the series, so im just gonna read the most important ones. but Jesus W. Christ SBS is taking a while to get going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by Leper Messiah SBS is taking a while to get going. Its worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin Its worth it. it had better be, where i am, the Vong have just feinted an attack on some world i forget the name of and Danni Quee theorised they were preserving their resources for something else, please tell me its the attack on Coruscant, ive had enough of waiting!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted November 26, 2004 Author Share Posted November 26, 2004 Originally posted by Leper Messiah it had better be, where i am, the Vong have just feinted an attack on some world i forget the name of and Danni Quee theorised they were preserving their resources for something else, please tell me its the attack on Coruscant, ive had enough of waiting!!!!!!!! man, I think you should just read comix instead... BANG ! PHROOOM !!!! Enough action for ya ?? mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Vader Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 I didn't think Vector Prime was that bad, in fact I actually liked the entire NJO series. Traitor was my favorite one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Keralys Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 The NJO had its down points. VP was one of those in my view. However, the rest of the series had some incredible moments. Read it, enjoy it. Don't quit at least till you've read Traitor. That's the make it or break it point of the series. If you hate that one, you'll hate it all, but VP is a bad book to judge the series by. You fools who claim it doesn't exist b/c you hate it are just that: fools. Be patient, though. A nineteen book series doesn't come to the end all in a flash and bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samnmax221 Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Vector Prime was kinda different to read butis alright Damn their killing all my favorite charactors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Originally posted by Master_Keralys Don't quit at least till you've read Traitor. That's the make it or break it point of the series. If you hate that one, you'll hate it all, but VP is a bad book to judge the series by. I agree that you should read to at least Traitor before judging the series, and that if you don't like the series by the end of Traitor you probably wont like it at all (and vice versa), but I think it is possible to not like Traitor and like the rest of the series (and vice versa). Traitor was very different from the other books in the series, IMO at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Keralys Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 A valid point, I suppose. Regardless, it was the general make-or-break point of the series, b/c it shifted the course of the entire saga in a very new and different direction. Traitor was probably the most unique SW novel out there, with Shatterpoint a close second. I love reading Matt Stover, b/c he writes to make you think, even though it's just SW "popcorn" reading. Even when I disagree with his philosophies, they make you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 Traitor is a one of a kind. In fact, it will remain a one of a kind in SW EU. It would be creative suicide for an EU author to attempt to do such a thing again.... but I bet you there will be someone stupid who does try mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 but I bet you there will be someone stupid who does try I hope your wrong about that, because you are definitely dead on with the rest of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 i have to say, im over halfway through Star By Star, and the actual storyline is good, but the book is poorly written in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Just came across this and thought it was interesting: Imagine taking a beloved character and killing him...why that's just not Star Wars! What's next? Will someone have the audacity to kill another beloved character, like Obiwan Kenobi? HOW DARE....oops, oh, yeah. Well, at least Lucas repented, because in TPM, none of the major characters die...oops, wait a minute. The R. A. Salvatore interview here is very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by Leper Messiah i have to say, im over halfway through Star By Star, and the actual storyline is good, but the book is poorly written in my opinion BAH ! you just dont listen lep ! It will NEVER be the same as if you read them in sequence as originally intended. Theres a lot of momentous stuff happenning in SBS. I find its drawn up parts only building the tension. By the time coruscant was taken, I felt just as defeated as the NR did but still, you do it *your* way, the *crazy* way mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by Astrotoy7 BAH ! you just dont listen lep ! It will NEVER be the same as if you read them in sequence as originally intended. Theres a lot of momentous stuff happenning in SBS. I find its drawn up parts only building the tension. By the time coruscant was taken, I felt just as defeated as the NR did but still, you do it *your* way, the *crazy* way mtfbwya nonononono you dont understand, the storyline is good, very good in fact, and there hasnt been a single reference i havnt understood so far, but its like the Lord Of The Rings for me, great story but it was written in such a way that i hated reading it, in the case of Star By Star sometimes the language is very lacklustre, the characters seem a little wooden at times and the writer i swear is making up branches of the New Republic government as he goes along - every single EU book i have read has different names for New Republic government departments. The senates also a good example, i know its been bombed at least once in the EU but its description changes EVERY SINGLE BOOK. just a couple of niggling factors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 You have to keep in mind that there are several years of time between the Galactic Civil War and the Yuuzhan Vong invasion. Not just time, peace time. The galaxy has been at war for decades, the New Republic has been at war since it was created. When you finally add peace into the equation, it is logical that the needs of the government would change drastically, and thus that the government itself would change drastically. To see that there has been a lot of change, just think about this: could you imagine Fey'lya as Chief of State during HoT or Gavin Darklighter as leader of Rogue Squadron during the X-Wing series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samnmax221 Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 I'v never known when luke and Mara got married is that in any of the previuse books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leper Messiah Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin You have to keep in mind that there are several years of time between the Galactic Civil War and the Yuuzhan Vong invasion. Not just time, peace time. The galaxy has been at war for decades, the New Republic has been at war since it was created. When you finally add peace into the equation, it is logical that the needs of the government would change drastically, and thus that the government itself would change drastically. To see that there has been a lot of change, just think about this: could you imagine Fey'lya as Chief of State during HoT or Gavin Darklighter as leader of Rogue Squadron during the X-Wing series? thats not what i mean, names of departments of the government are always changing. I havnt read the EU in a while i dont rememer Leia's actual title being Chief Of State, i thought she was President. Departments of the New Republic government that do the same thing are given different names all the time. As i said before the Senate seems to change its description every book. Im not talking about storyline changes, just plain coninuity errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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