Vladimir-Vlada Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 The Sun is a giant gravity ball of hot flaming gas! What do you expect from it? Still not a bad thougth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Vladimir-Vlada I know very well what are the basic requierments to create life stinghers, and I am not that stupid to not know it. i never stated that your were 'stupid'. i simply stated that the size of a star is not the most important gage on whether or not life can exist on its satellites. and i also offered to provide several sources in the form of scientific documentation to back up my statement. and tell me, what exactly are the basic requirements to create life??? thus far, that concept has eluded modern science entirely with the exception of several preposterous theories. now if you meant something else, then my apolgies. just be careful with your vocabulary next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir-Vlada Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Of course you didn't state that I was stupid. I did! [Reaction: ]. And I didn't insult anyone! I swear! Anyway the basics of forming life are: Atmosphere (formed from gases ejected by volcano eruptions) Stable gases (I don't know how are they called in english, but they are Neon, Axon, Xenon, etc. ) Water (nothing without it) Sunlight (for photosyntesis) Planets Gravity (to hold the gases) Maybe there are more, and I am sorry if I don't know more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Life has to exist on other planets. The universe is pleasantly infinite (last time I checked), so eventually we'll find some extra terrestrials (assuming we dont kill ourselves, get away from the sun before it dies and that aliens aren't very good at hiding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 And Prime, your not the only one. Lets form a Forcefully Probed By Aliens Support group. FPBAS:D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 dude woowwwww plz read the forum rules on multiple posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 It was an accident, I was probed and my head hit the keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeKatarn Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Life yes. ANimal kingdom no. Plant kingdom possibley. I not a beliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Originally posted by LukeKatarn Life yes. ANimal kingdom no. Plant kingdom possibley. I not a beliver. How do you come to that conclusion? It seems so arbitrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeKatarn Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Possibley Animals, but likely not intelligent life. Have we found any proof OF life? Without proof OF life, do I need proof of NO life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Thats not my point. You say: life yes, animal no. That seems a strange comment to pull from nowhere. This is all speculation from both those who believe in extra-terrestrial life and those who don't, but its at least based on some kind of reasoning. I was just wondering what kind of reasoning would draw the conclusion that there is most likely (or at least leads you to the belief of) life, but most likely not animal (or at least intelligent, as you seemed to change your mind) life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 you know, i've been giving this subject a thought or two throughout the day (which is quite odd given that finals are coming up on Friday). at any rate, i've been thinking about a couple of ideas based on God. and before all you atheists start making a big hissy-fit, this is nothing more than conjecture on my part. i just thought it'd be kinda neat to understand exactly what God can do. just try to view this as a form of 'entertainment'. first and foremost, the concept of the Christain God is based on a being that is all-powerful and does not conform to the concept of time. since God is not bound to time, i find it quite interesting that there could not only be other forms of life created by God for his own amusement, but there could also be entire alternate dimensions that exist. heck, as far as we know, God could have created the entire Star Wars universe in an alternate reality of some kind. as unlikely as it sounds, it is possible if you assume the Christain teachings to be correct. since God is an all-powerful being, the possiblities are literally endless. that and your not limited to the scope of science, or even human understanding for that matter. anyways, thats just a bit of my own thought processes for the day. and quite frankly, don't bother debating it with me: its just conjecture on my part, nothing more. i just like entertaining strange possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 well for all we know starwars might exist in this dimension just out of reach of any of our technology cuz the univers is a vast wonder land heck the matrix might exist on some other planet who know ah the possiblities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir-Vlada Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 It would be great that the Star Wars universe exists:D , but the Matrix SCCCAAAAARRRREEEEESSS me:( . But the Matrix doesn't exist . To stinghers: Many religions were created to make moral, ethical laws, and invoke tolerance. Thich is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 for those who think that life exists but have seen no proof there is life out there it might not even be carbon based as we and jupiter has many of the gasses present when the earth was just getting formed and just cuz we are alone in our solar system doesn't mean that life outside of our solar system doesn't exist and eventually we will be able to travel outside of our solar system when a sucessful zero gravity purpulsion unit is made which is in the works by the way so don't be suprised to find out that we are able to do so in our life time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Originally posted by jedigoku ...just cuz we are alone in our solar system... Which isn't necessarily a given. It is completely likely that we may be, but our solar system is so unexplored, its impossible to conclusively determine if life does or does not exist here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Originally posted by stingerhs you know, i've been giving this subject a thought or two throughout the day (which is quite odd given that finals are coming up on Friday). at any rate, i've been thinking about a couple of ideas based on God. and before all you atheists start making a big hissy-fit, this is nothing more than conjecture on my part. i just thought it'd be kinda neat to understand exactly what God can do. just try to view this as a form of 'entertainment'. first and foremost, the concept of the Christain God is based on a being that is all-powerful and does not conform to the concept of time. since God is not bound to time, i find it quite interesting that there could not only be other forms of life created by God for his own amusement, but there could also be entire alternate dimensions that exist. heck, as far as we know, God could have created the entire Star Wars universe in an alternate reality of some kind. as unlikely as it sounds, it is possible if you assume the Christain teachings to be correct. since God is an all-powerful being, the possiblities are literally endless. that and your not limited to the scope of science, or even human understanding for that matter. anyways, thats just a bit of my own thought processes for the day. and quite frankly, don't bother debating it with me: its just conjecture on my part, nothing more. i just like entertaining strange possibilities. I'm an athiest (don't worry I'm not gonna have a hissy-fit) and if a God did he put us here to invent baseball. How do I know? The Torah starts with "In the Beg inning" (aka the Big Inning). Now who votes we live in peace until the CHOC-OPOLYSPE (the end of the World, aka the Reign of Fudge). And if you argue with the Torah tidbit, it was told to me by a Rabi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Originally posted by Vladimir-Vlada Thich is good. Indeed. Thich is good! And a lil' warning message: don't drag this ET Thread into the dark realms of Religion Debate threads. Trust me, members have been banned. I've heard tales of a ghost member, too. Soo... if Earth has certain stuff required for life, then there must definitely be that sort of stuff somewhere in the galaxy. Infact, I know quite a few aliens on the forum itself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir-Vlada Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Indeed. Thich is good! What the heck are you talking about? I wanted to say 'which is good', and who the heck is this Thich guy? Sorry for the way I asked about Thich (whoever he is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Originally posted by Sabretooth And a lil' warning message: don't drag this ET Thread into the dark realms of Religion Debate threads. Trust me, members have been banned. 'Cause you all know us mods are just waiting to pick you guys off one by one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 Originally posted by Sabretooth And a lil' warning message: don't drag this ET Thread into the dark realms of Religion Debate threads. Trust me, members have been banned. I've heard tales of a ghost member, too. thank you I made this thread for an intellegent debate not a religious one but any way Soo... if Earth has certain stuff required for life, then there must definitely be that sort of stuff somewhere in the galaxy. Infact, I know quite a few aliens on the forum itself! thank you but not all life forms my depend on the stuff earth has cuz it is a vast universe out there and the possiblilities are limitless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir-Vlada Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Aaaahhhh... Jedigoku, you posted twice, so... Quickly! Erase the post before the modders bann you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Originally posted by Prime 'Cause you all know us mods are just waiting to pick you guys off one by one. I KNEW IT!!! (falls down drugged and is dragged away from computer). Okay sorry for the little religion thing. And we all know that hydrogen is the most common thingy (element i think) in the universe, and hydrogen is part of water, which is needed for life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Uh... hydrogen can exist independant of water, right? @Vladimir: Just a joke. I thoughtyou might be mentioning something real, so I googled it and found Thich himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotélēsticus Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 i dont know if there is a life on other planets, but there is no evidence that denies the existance of this life....anyway scince says that if there are certain basic things on some inviroment(those who Vladimir mentioned before) there is no reason to say that life does not exist on this inviroment, and religion tell us that God is all powerful, he can create thousand lifes in other planets...the Holy Qoran said: (for god has created heavens and earth, thus he can create another for he is the knowledgeful creator).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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