Darth Windu Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Gotta say, I loved the C&C series but I am rather concerned about EaW, primarily due to the utterly pathetic and un-StarWarsy ships we are getting. Two examples of what I mean are here- http://www.empireatwar.net/fall2005/gallery/screenshots/space/august05/exclusive/5.jpg First off, you have a Rebel ship that looks like there was crash between an Escort Frigate and Mon Cal Cruiser, with the mechanics putting together various pieces of each until it vagely resembled a Starship. Then, you get the 'Republic Hover Tank in Space' ship for the Imperials, in the same screenshot. What is wrong with these people? The canon ships seem to have been done very well, but these new ships that seem to have been created just for EaW are horrible, and I think something needs to be done about it. Thoughts?
starmark2k Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Personally i think the Broadside Looks extreamly "starwarsey", as it has all the look of an empires ship. As for the 'Hybrid' ship i think that shows he rebels for what they are having to adapt ship to settle their needs.
Jan Gaarni Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 I don't really see a big need for the Broadside Frigate (God, I hope that's just a temperary name, or just a nickname ), as the missile systems on the Star Destroyers should be more than adequet in my opinion.
Guest DarthMaulUK Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 With rebellion you needed a counter and this is probably it. DMUK
lutalica Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Well as far as i can see Broadside starship looks very similar to the starship that appeared in star wars comics as a starfighter carrier -> text is available here and following picture : Picture I like the design very much looks like a cross between ISD and Escort carrier.... purely offensive assault ship
Garbageben Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Also in one of the screens it shows the weird rebel ship and it is the mark II assault frigate. I wonder why they went with a mkII and not have the original one in too...
Nevets1112 Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 It is also similar in design to the Imperial Decimator: http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/images/jtl/ships/vt49.jpg
jokemaster Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 I don't really see a big need for the Broadside Frigate (God, I hope that's just a temperary name, or just a nickname ) When I read that name the first thing that came to mind: You couldn't hit the Broad side of a Broadside frigate with a sniper rifle.
OverlordAngelus Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 I personally think they should stick to existing ship designs, just look at Rebellion and X-Wing Alliance, they both have a large number of different ships. Also, the Starfighter Carrier appeared in the Droids cartoon too.
lutalica Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 I think they named the ship Broadside so it would indicate the class (RN currently operates several Broadsword class frigates - my point is Broadside and Broadsword they sound very alike, but again this is just guessing ) I wonder if they place some of the heavy cruiser designs (Vengeance, Titan and such) Of course this is just high hopes 'cause i don't think that a game with such great number of different vessels would be well balanced (for this sort of RTS)..... but again maybe this would be the first game to achieve just that aaahh, just can't wait for this game (looks at the calender)...
Nevets1112 Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 I think they named the ship Broadside so it would indicate the class (RN currently operates several Broadsword class frigates - my point is Broadside and Broadsword they sound very alike, but again this is just guessing ) I wonder if they place some of the heavy cruiser designs (Vengeance, Titan and such) Of course this is just high hopes 'cause i don't think that a game with such great number of different vessels would be well balanced (for this sort of RTS)..... but again maybe this would be the first game to achieve just that aaahh, just can't wait for this game (looks at the calender)... That is kind of the point tho, Imperials and Rebels aren't suppose to be balanced completely. And that would be kind of boring if they were the exact same thing like the factions in SWGB.
DoctorNerve Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 You do realise that Lucas Licensing doesn't let just any ship design happen. It gets reviewed by them and Petro then finds out what is allowed in the game. Lucas Licensing reviews this stuff to make sure it fits the lore and style of SW.
DK_Viceroy Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 they should have used some EU designs at least they are starwarsy and look the part and don't bother bringing in that hell ridden Purism > Truism argument I have a flaming red hot Poker and I'm not terribly bothered where I shove it to inflict punishment on someone who brings that up.
lutalica Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 I didn't say they are to be balanced completely, but imagine a small fleet of few ISDs (no matter which), Vengeance and Executor class SSDs, and as a creme de la creme a Deathstar. You put that against anything Rebels can field..... i think that this would ruin Adm. Ackbar's day Thats what i meant when i said about numerous vessels....
Dagobahn Eagle Posted August 27, 2005 Posted August 27, 2005 There are so many EU ships in existance that making even more vessels is just a vaste of time. There's an Expanded Universe craft for every role imaginable. That, and there's the fact that all the EU ships have fans that love them. For example, if you need a medium cruiser, why not add a strike cruiser and not that half-breed thing of a frigate and a Calamarian Cruiser? The same trend continues on the ground. Those hover tanks look... Weird. I mean, what's wrong with T-3b tanks and Firehawke hover tanks? The new ships look OK to me, really, but I'd rather have the classic EU vessels.
general ackbar Posted August 27, 2005 Posted August 27, 2005 There are so many EU ships in existance that making even more vessels is just a vaste of time. There's an Expanded Universe craft for every role imaginable. That, and there's the fact that all the EU ships have fans that love them. For example, if you need a medium cruiser, why not add a strike cruiser and not that half-breed thing of a frigate and a Calamarian Cruiser? The same trend continues on the ground. Those hover tanks look... Weird. I mean, what's wrong with T-3b tanks and Firehawke hover tanks? The new ships look OK to me, really, but I'd rather have the classic EU vessels. yea some of the rebel ground units i really dont like that much.
nightmarenny Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 http://galactic-voyage.com/Light%20Side-Capital%20Ships-Liberator%20Carrier-Cruiser.htm The pre existing Liberator carrior. Looks alot like this "broadside.
Jmaster3265 Posted September 26, 2005 Posted September 26, 2005 Personally i really don't get what your complaining about...and second the game isn't perfect, no game is...
Naja Posted September 27, 2005 Posted September 27, 2005 As long as I have the Lancer, TIE Interceptor, SSD, and B-Wing, I won't bitch too much.
Darth_Terros Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 If you look closer the ship your saying is a Escort Frigate and Mon Cal Cruiser is actually a mon cal cruiser with another ship just behind it at a odd angle you can actally see the line seperating the two
Darth Windu Posted October 19, 2005 Author Posted October 19, 2005 Terros - no, the ship really is supposed to look like that. It's on some other creenshots as well, so it isn't an illusion, as much as I wish it was.
Guest DarthMaulUK Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Ive posted this elsewhere but I will post it again. Some of the designs might not be great - however, they give Modders the chance to change it all around for us, so we can have probably any ship/unit in the game. DMUK
Darth_Terros Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Terros - no, the ship really is supposed to look like that. It's on some other creenshots as well, so it isn't an illusion, as much as I wish it was. We are talking abotu the same thing i hope I circled the mon cal in yellow and the thing your saying is part of it in pink now if you look at the other things i've circled pink they are the same ship your saying is part of teh mon cal? like i said it is just a weird angle? thats if we're on about the same thing Click
Jan Gaarni Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Windu means the one in front of the ISD, right above the Empire at War logo.
lukeiamyourdad Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 Ive posted this elsewhere but I will post it again. Some of the designs might not be great - however, they give Modders the chance to change it all around for us, so we can have probably any ship/unit in the game. DMUK It's not a good idea to rely on mods for good ship design...
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