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I will admit, I don't think anyone who hasn't seen the series should watch this movie. I am fairly confident that it would lose a LOT of the impact, and you would also miss out on a lot of small things that fans of the series can only truly appreciate.

 

If you're a firefly fan, you will LOVE Serenity.

 

I meant to watch Firefly when it was on Fox, but I never did.

 

That being said.

 

I love this movie. Does anyone know where I could buy the original Firefly episodes. I must view them, posthaste.

 

 

 

I love the part about the reevers(sp?)

 

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or you should just buy the DVD's...and then you can watch them always :D

 

Yeah, my father's hooked on the movie and is going to get the series dvd soon.

 

Hopefully Universal will realize that Serenity is going to make twice as much on dvd as it does in Theater.

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I saw it again last night and am hoping to see it with some family this weekend. It is such an amazing movie. Every second I saw on the screen was as awesome as the first time I had seen it.

 

I hope it makes enough money to warrant futher stories of the lives of Mal and his crew.

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Seen it!!! :)

 

Few initial points. While its a good movie if you haven't watched Firefly... its much more of an "ending to the series" than an intro to newbies. It almost feels more like the final part in a trilogy than the first one. Don't let that put you off watching it if you haven't seen Firefly (but if you happen to have the dvds watch them first).

I thought it would maybe retell some of the origin stories from the series, but it doesn't really. Still works as a whole movie though.

 

IMHO it starts slow and gets better and better. So i'm not convinced that putting the first 9 minutes up is a good way to sell it. While there are some interesting bits in the first 9 minutes, they don't really have any big budget set pieces that would blow people away... so i can see why CapNC might think it looked like a sci-fi tv series. It does get better and better as it builds to the end though.

 

I thought it was excellent, though possibly not quite as great as some of you guys think (not best sci-fi film ever... SW, Terminator and Aliens still beat it imho) but still excellent.

 

I think it might have tried a little too much (setting up the characters and setting, finishing the series, starting a trilogy, etc..) which meant you didn't quite get an impression of the depth of the world they had created (that you get in classic movies like SW and LOTR)... not really enough cowboy stuff to set its world apart from other sci-fi universes. Didn't quite give the Alliance the same "evil empire" feel you got from the Empire in SW for example.

 

Other than that it rocked. I loved the characters (new and old), the plot, the interaction, the jokes, the final action scenes, etc..

 

 

Although I will miss Wash and it was a real shame to see him go, I also thought it was a great touch, meant you didn't assume they'd all survive the end fight and was a good way for him to go. I was never much of a fan of the Sheperd Book character, so I won't miss him as much... but it did seem a bit of a shame to kill him off without finding out his secret... or even without him being a main character in the film. Seemed kind of a waste to me as it wouldn;t have meant much to those that hadn't watched Firefly.

 

 

 

Those "fans" saying Joss betrayed them by killing them are idiots, and obviously don't kinow Joss very well as he has a habit of killing off major characters in order to shock the viewers. its one of the things that makes his shows more interesting.

 

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Didn't quite give the Alliance the same "evil empire" feel you got from the Empire in SW for example.]
I believe that was intentional, and am rather fond of it.

 

I think the whole point here is that there isn't exactly "good" and "evil" in this movie. I mean, we know that Mal and crew are our protagonists,

 

But Mal pushes an innocent man off the mule and kills him before the reavers can, something you'd never see happen in a Star Wars movie, plus our entire group of "heros" is made up of thieves.

 

 

What we're shown is a universe filled with varying shades of grey, with people taking up sides depending on what they believe. I think it's fantastic.

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I believe that was intentional, and am rather fond of it.

 

You are right, and its not really a negative as such. I really like the whole shades of grey thing, especially in the "heroes".

It did mean that you didn't really get much of a sense of who the Alliance were. No consistent ship style for the alliance or anything. Thats not necessarily a bad thing... i just think it meant there wasn't quite as much world depth and epic feeling to it as movies like star wars.

It had a much more intimate feel to it. Which may be intentional as a way to differentiate it, but does leave it feeling a little more like a feature length tv show than a big budget movie.

 

I'd hope that if they do get the chance to do any more films they will be able to spend a bit more time fleshing out the background of the universe, the war and the alliance.

 

Really though, that minor complaint was the only one i had.

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I certainly know where you're coming from, the movie does play out somewhat like an extended TV show.

 

It's main hurdle is that we have too many main characters for a 2 hour movie. We have our 8 main people from the TV show, plus our villain, and it's impossible to get enough exposition on all of them to still have time for the interesting things. Because of that I think alot of people who saw the movie without the TV show were under the impression that alot of the crew was of minor importance, and your typical crewman #6.

 

Of course, there was no way to avoid this, it's just what they had to face in the change of medium, and I'd say it was handled very aptly.

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I myself have already said I feel at the moment like it may be my favorite science fiction movie ever, so I certainly agree with you, but with so many characters we couldn't get to know all of them as well as you did during the show during the movie, so the uninitiated miss out on a lot of stuff that happens during the movie

 

In particular, the Mal-Inara situation

 

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I think its probably impossible for any sf movie to create the feel that the original star wars had. Being about the first such movie it was able to capture the imagination with a fairly simple story... which left lots of room for a unique, epic feeling backdrop to be established.

Now that we are all used to sci-fi universes (stargate, chronicles of riddick, etc..) they have to try hard to come up with complex plots and settings to try and stand out... which means they can't have the simple, epic plots that SW had.

Thats why SW is still dear in my heart, and its probably impossible for any new sci-fi film to replace it. Serenity does a better job than any of the new SW films though.

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SW lacks any sort of specialness to me. While watching the OT I didn't feel the evilness of the empire, I never feared Vader nor felt any sort of menacing presence...

 

Course, I had known the entire story for years before actually watching the movies, so that may be why... :p

 

Serenity surprised me just as it did LotR because I had no idea about the universe of both. :D

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The difference between Star Wars and Serenity is this: Star Wars is your absolutely GENERIC fable--it was merely updated to have a futuristic feel, but beyond that, it is the oldest story around. Serenity tells it how it is. Nothing is constant. Everything is falling apart.

I almost wish more protagonists died for that reason.

 

 

Did anyone else get the impression that Book used to be an Operative? I did. Then again, I've never seen the telelvision series.

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