Does anyone have any suspisions about what will happen in the last game?

[Revan Skywalker]

What do you think will happen?

[Achilles]

I think that you'll be one of the "new" Jedi, sent to the Unknown Region to determine the fate of Revan. You'll be given T3 (and maybe HK) as well as the Ebon Hawk and sent off with (crosses fingers) a talented, but untested Padawan.

 

You'll have to travel to various planets to complete your training and unravel the mysteries of where Revan went and what he/she encountered. You'll build your party, find the True Sith and...your guess is as good as mine from there.

 

The thing that we know for sure is that the Ebon Hawk has a record of Revan's travels and T3 is the only one that can unlock them. Speculation re: the return of the EH and T3 are just silly if you ask me. That ship and that droid will be back for sure. I'll put money on HK's return as well.

[RedHawke]

^^^^

I'm with you Achilles!

 

Though I'm pretty sure we will see Mr. Ordo again as well, though unlikely as an NPC. I figure possibly we'll have to do a quest or two for him.

[Achilles]

Possible, but I have a feeling that he will be dead in the K3 timeline. It'd be great if they brought Mandalore back, but...well, you know what I mean by that.

 

I'm guessing that we'll see a fledgling Jedi Order on the cusp of reestablishing it's presence in the Galaxy after the events of the first two games (i.e. 10-15 years after TSL). I'm hoping that we'll see more of Kreia ala Obi-wan in ESB. Maybe unlocking the astrogation system will kick loose some more holovids with Bastila and Carth in them, but then again, maybe not.

[RedHawke]

I see we are of like minds on the 10-15 years after TSL, and having a fledgeling Jedi Order for the start of KIII. I kind of took the reasons you could easily make the NPC's in TSL into Jedi and them dissappearing at the end of TSL was to make this possible for KIII. I even remember Krea mentioning that they were the new Jedi, or something like that.

 

But I am also thinking that the unlocking of the Hawk's astrogation system will be part of the Main quest in KIII. If you think about it searching for a way to do this is a great way to start the game off for our new PC. Then by unlocking the astrogation system it will lead us to the actual Main quest to find out what Revan knew that led to the Jedi Civil war.

[Achilles]

Well, I want to keep an open mind about things, but I have to admit that I'll be kinda disappointed if they bring back any of the main NPCs from TSL (except Kreia and the aforementioned droids). Too much baggage can quickly weigh the story down. However if the devs can find a graceful way to do it, then good on them.

 

I kinda like where you're going with the astrogation system. I was thinking they might do something Peragus like with the EH, but I suppose they could make it gradual. My only concern there is making the game too linear. I hope they learned their lesson from TSL and make things slightly more open.

[Revan Skywalker]

Maybe Bao-Dur can die. Kreia did say she could not see his future. May the Force guide you!

[chaleur]

^ NOOOOOO! He's the best. And...

 

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[Shem]

I like the idea of Bastila returning as a party member to help you find Revan.

 

It really doesn't matter whether or not Revan was light or dark at the end of KOTOR because in TSL, Bastila is still obsessed with finding out what happened to Revan and where Revan is.

 

The only problem I can see is that in the scenario TSL, if you chose that Revan was light and female, it is assumed that Bastila was killed on the Star Forge. However, I'm sure it could be worked around like making her a party member if somehow your NPC chooses that Revan was male, light or dark, or Revan is female, dark. If Bastila is assumed dead, then someone else joins instead down the road. It would be just like in TSL whether or not either Brianna, or Mical joins. That goes for Mira or Hanharr situation. Just depends on what is established.

 

Just the idea of Bastila joining assumming she is still alive would make sense since she is desperate to find Revan.

[RobQel-Droma]

I think that Bastila should make a reappearance, be you master even if she is alive. She could probably be obsessed with finding Revan as you said and struggle with the Jedi and the Dark Side, because of her love for him since she wants to find him. Maybe she could be on the council, but have some sort of disobedience to the order by going and looking for him with you, if you choose.

[The Doctor]

Maybe Bao-Dur can die. Kreia did say she could not see his future. May the Force guide you!

YES! HE SHOULD DIE A PAINFUL DEATH!

 

Anyway, I think you should be sent on a mission by the Jedi council to find Revan, but when you do he's dead.

[Achilles]

*rolls eyes* Of course Revan will be dead. Otherwise the devs would have to put in gender and alignment checks again, plus they would have to figure out what "the real" Revan looks like. I figured that would have been painfully obvious to everyone.

 

As for Bastila, it would be cool to see another cameo, but as I stated earlier, it will be a holovid just like TSL.

 

Edited for gramatical errors.

[Vladimir-Vlada]

Of course Revan will be dead.

WHAT?!?!?! That's going to happen!?

 

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[RobQel-Droma]

Sorry, Achilles, but I don't agree with that. The guy I played back in K1 is dead? I think that you should have a reunion, with everybody there. Not to say that someone shouldn't die, I think it would be a nice addition if Carth died fighting, or somebody else, to finish the series off. Of course, Revan could die at the end, too, but I want to meet him, not just find him like Vash.

[Vladimir-Vlada]

Sorry, Achilles, but I don't agree with that. The guy I played back in K1 is dead? I think that you should have a reunion, with everybody there. Not to say that someone shouldn't die, I think it would be a nice addition if Carth died fighting, or somebody else, to finish the series off. Of course, Revan could die at the end, too, but I want to meet him, not just find him like Vash.

Thank you for sharing my opinion. (at least the half of it)

[MrVorlon]

Maybe the Exile can die? The search for Revan was too treacherous for even the Jedi God. The new PC has to be careful about where he goes because his chances for survival just sank to 0.0000102% after finding the Jedi God's remains. How can a mere Padawan succeed where the Exile failed?

 

I guess not though.

[Kain]

The Exile sucks. I hope he's deader than a doornail.

[Darth SINner]

I think the exile should be on the jedi council and send the new NPC (who is the padawan to him/her) to look for Revan.

[Achilles]

Sorry, Achilles, but I don't agree with that. The guy I played back in K1 is dead? I think that you should have a reunion, with everybody there. Not to say that someone shouldn't die, I think it would be a nice addition if Carth died fighting, or somebody else, to finish the series off. Of course, Revan could die at the end, too, but I want to meet him, not just find him like Vash.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Personally, I cannot fathom how the devs would be able to efficiently resolve a living Revan 2 games after his/her appearance.

 

You implied that your Revan was male. Just because your Revan was a guy, doesn't mean that everyone else's was. Should the devs just assume that Revan was male? Even if the answer is yes (and they piss off all their female players), how do you anticipate they will gracefully allow you to set a global for his appearance? If Revan was caucasian, how do you think the people that played as Asian characters will feel? If Revan had long hair, how do you think the people that played with a short haired PC will react?

 

If you're comfortable with permutations, then you could probably calculate how many possible "Revans" there are considering that you have 2 genders, 2 alignments, and approximately 2 dozen appearances to choose from. I imagine that you'll quickly find that there are hundreds if not thousands of possible Revans based off of your available choices in K1.

 

The devs have to stick to the storyline. You can't create an immersive game if the player has to fill out a 20 page questionnare just to set a global for Revan's appearance. And they aren't going to risk ejecting you from the game by forcing a Revan that you didn't pick down your throat. Similarly they aren't going to waste a lot of time trying to figure out how to let you tell the game what Revan was like. Their "easy out" is a masked, genderless Revan that died in the Outer Rim.

 

I think the exile should be on the jedi council and send the new NPC (who is the padawan to him/her) to look for Revan.

For the same reason's listed above, I don't think we'll see the Exile on the counsel. Since there was a DS ending that involved the Exile taking over Trayus Academy, it's pretty far fetched to assume that we'll see him/her calling the shots for the Jedi. Now that isn't to say that a former companion of the Exile's might not be on the Counsel, but I highly doubt we'll see the Exile again.

[chaleur]

Otherwise the devs would have to put in gender and alignment checks again, plus they would have to figure out what "the real" Revan looks like.

Are you sure about that? I'd been hoping that Lucas Licensing made Revan male in canon(1) because there's to be a new Dark Horse comic that will refer to her in passing, and needed a pronoun. But what if the reason they did it is because they are planning to fix Revan as male LS (or whatever) in KotOR 3? That would be tragic, IMHO, but it is possible, and even understandable from the developers POV.

 

(1) http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=152583&start=420#11839253

[Achilles]

Am I sure? No, I can't possibly be sure, but canon for a comic is one thing and a loyal fanbase for a game franchise is another. I think if their motivation was video games, then we would have seen a LS Male Revan in TSL. Instead we got a dialog with Atton that allowed us to chose those things for continuity (the key issue, IMO). I suspect that the true reason behind the decision was canon for canon's sake.

 

If the devs say to hell with continuity, then it's entirely possible we'll see Revan in K3. Just be ready to see a LS Male that may or may not look like the male PC that you may or may not have selected when you played K1. That sounds like a lot of fun, right?

[fresnosmokey02]

I like the idea of unlocking the astrogation computer. But I was under the impression that finding the "true sith" and/or finding Revan was a little more urgent than waiting 10-15 years for it to occur. Although I could be wrong about that, it was just an impression after all. And about Bastila dying if you are a LS female, I was able to turn her back to the LS on occaision, although not every time. So they needn't worry about any repercussions about bringing Bastila back, because it's possible that she's alive no matter what your gender or alignment in K1.

[Achilles]

It's possible (heck, probable) that the timeline might pick up sooner. Taking a look at the status of the Jedi order and the number of confirmed Jedi that are available to take up the cause, I don't think it will pick up right where TSL left off. 10-15 years might seem a bit long, but if they happen to "find" another group of Jedi after they were almost completely wiped out in TSL, I'm going to be very disappointed.

 

As for Bastila, if even one of the possible scenarios resulted in her being dead, then they can't pursue a storyline where she's alive. They will absolutely have to worry about repercussions of bringing her back. TSL had a very clever method of eliminating any story conflicts, but if I'm still being quizzed about KotOR in K3, I'm going to be a bit disappointed. I hope the devs realize that we need to move on.

[Aleggy]

ok i think the problem with creating a sequal to the kotor games is that theres more than 1 ending in both there are possible deaths of certain npc and in tsl there different possabilities as to who was in your party

 

soooooo you'll be some new guy/gal with a new party selection saome 'subtle' questioningg at the beginning to find out how you finished 'both' games.

 

the big problem is how are they going to come up with a new way to get you the ebon hawk and the droids without repeating the beginning of tsl

 

now imho the droids hk and t3 have to be in kotor3 as they are the 3po and r2 of kotor but i dont know about you guys but i dont mind a new ship a new padawan and a new games engine so long as the feel of the game is still kotorish

 

as to the actual plot big bad sith at large and i get to slash em with my trusty lightsaber and on the way i learn a bit of what happened to the exile and revan

 

that'll do me just my 2 cents

[RobQel-Droma]

You probably could find the Ebon Hawk, I don't think that we will be getting it right away, perhaps in the later part of the game when you go into the Unknown Regions (assuming you go there eventually). HK and T3 have to be back, even if you don't want to have them as party members, they still need to be there as possible party members.

 

Why not have Bastila, Carth, and others back? I guess it is just that I don't really care whether you have to answer questions - I hope they make it subtle, or perhaps hard to even notice you are choosing something, but still something that determines whether you see them or not. They could have been in TSL, so it is possible that they are in KotOR III. And I just like them anyways, I think it would be good that you see some of the main characters show up. For me it makes the story tie together even more.

 

One of the reasons that KotOR is so good is that there are all the different choices you can make: LS Male, DS Male, LS Female, DS Female. Someone did point out that in KotOR III there would be 64 different paths you could take, 4 for Revan, 4 for the Exile, and 4 for you. But it would give the game almost unending replayability, and wouldn't be set on one path.

 

If we have someone coming back, I don't want them to make long reappearences (I know I am spelling that wrong, I can't remember how to spell it ). Just a short one would be fine with me, even though I would like a maybe Bastila as your master if you say that Revan didn't kill her. In fact, there is only 2 out of 6 choices that she was dead. If Revan was DS, then she's alive. If Revan was LS/DS, then you can say that she was redeemed by Revan, by something subtle in the dialogue.

 

Same thing goes for the other characters, which are a lot more simple. I seriously doubt that we will be seeing Juhani, there are two choices that you killed her, once on Dantooine, once on the Temple on Rakatan/Unknown World. The first time isn't dependant on anything, so it would be another whole question set. I don't want to have the first half of the game telling people what happened in the earlier games .

 

As for Mission and Zaalbar, again very simple, Revan dark, they're dead, Revan light, they're alive. You may say that even if you are dark you can have Zaalbar kill Mission by Force Dominating him, but even so, he could attack you on the Star Forge, and if you didn't kill him there, then in all probability he would have attacked you later.

 

Carth, again, very simple. If Revan was Dark and Female, then he is dead. Nothing else will work. That could be solved by just setting Revan's alignment and gender.

 

And, the list goes on. I would like to see Jolee as a grouchy old force ghost, that would be good, maybe Brianna or Mical as head of a Jedi Academy, and others. Maybe Suvam Tan as a multi-millionare merchant, Yuthura Bann and Dustil Onasi as a Jedi Master and Jedi Knight (providing they aren't dead, it might cross the line of too much questioning), and whoever else.

 

I don't really want them to change the whole game engine and the way the game works, it just wouldn't feel right. If they have to, thats ok, but I would rather not. It might still feel KotOR-ish, but it wouldn't play that way. And I really want more items. Perhaps the return of HotG and MotF, Revan could have left them somewhere in the UR. Maybe some cool stuff that is made in the UR, and so is unlike most of the other technology. There is only one thing that I am going to be really mad at if they don't do it: MAKE KOTOR III! .