Lady Traya Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 After finally watching the movies, all in a row, I noticed that there was a lot of similarities between 1-4, 2-5, and 3-6. So what similarity do you think is coolest, cleverest, or just plain awesome? I think that the battle between Dooku and Anakin and its similarity to the battle between vader and luke (in rotj) is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Similarities I've noticed: Every movie has a lightsaber battle Every movie has a spacefighter battle Every movie has a blaster battle Every movie branches out to two or more fronts eventually For eg. Obi-Wan at Kamino, Anakin at Naboo or Luke at Dagobah and Han/Chewie/Leia at Bespin Every movie has a high-speed chase sequence By the beginning of every movie, the enemies are ready for attacking the good guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 The similarities were done on purpose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 The similarities were done on purpose... ^ seriously, it's called a "reference". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Or cliche. Let's see (prequels vs. Classic Trilogy): Chewbacca swinging on a vine with the Tarzon yell to attack a massive metal vehicle... Dooku vs. Anakin while Palpatine watches / Luke vs. Vader while Palpatine watches... Palpatine & Windu while Anakin looks on / Palpatine & Luke while Vader looks on... the Ending shot of AOTC / the Ending shot of ESB... Opening Crawl and pan to a ship or planet in each movie, iris to space credits at the end. THX-1138 reference, cast & crew cameos, and other "easter egg" in-jokes (shoes, potatos, whatever). "virtual unknowns" cast as major characters, with veteran actors in a few supporting roles (Peter Cushing/Alec Guinness/Sebastian Shaw?/the guy who played Uncle Owen?; Liam Neeson/Sam Jackson/Christopher Lee/the guy who played Chancellor Valorum). Diversionary battle to delay the enemy (TPM's Gungan army, ROTJ's Ewok army / Rebels on Hoth). Lightsaber battle between "Father" and Son (ESB/ROTJ vs. ROTS. remember in AOTC "You're the closest thing I have to a father" spoken by Anakin to Obi-Wan). Wheezing cyborg (Grievous) / Wheezing cyborg (Vader) And lots of reversals too, like Boba Fett chasing the heroes / the heroes chasing Jango Fett. Stormtroopers as bad guys, Clonetroopers as good guys. Jedi fighting in war, Jedi talking against war. Rebels as good guys, Rebels as bad guys (Seperatists). Government as good guys (Republic), Government as bad guys (Empire). And plenty of the usual stock stuff, starship battles, lightsaber battles, campy dialouge, comic relief characters (physical comedy and corny jokes), "I have a bad feeling about this," wisdom spouting characters, cackling villians, blaster fights, ground battles where one side is clearly outmatched, deus ex machina type resolutions, droids, cut off hands, humble characters becoming heroes, wolves in sheep's clothing, star ship/speeder chases, lost lightsabers, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Traya Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 yeah i know they are done on purpose of course. some like the throne room duel are just extra clever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora Merlow Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 never actually realised how many similarities there were Kurgan. I think most of them worked though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Vader & Palpatine looking at the Death Star skeleton / Luke and Leia looking at that swirly celestial thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Traya Posted November 10, 2005 Author Share Posted November 10, 2005 Or cliche. Wheezing cyborg (Grievous) / Wheezing cyborg (Vader) . that was one i didn't notice. do you think it was on purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 According to the behind the scenes info I've read the coughing was Lucas, they put it in as a joke and he liked it, so it was kept. Did it remind him of Vader? Perhaps that's why it appealed to him. In any case, now it's a similarity! There's similarities between the prequels as well. Notice all the stuff that Anakin does in his ship in ROTS is similar to what he did in TPM (try spinning, that's a good trick! sneaking into the hangar past the shield). He also says "this is where the fun begins" which is Han Solo's line (can't recall if it was ESB or ANH, but one of those). There's numerous references to Obi-Wans dislike of flying/space travel in AOTC & RotS. C-3PO says he'd forgotten how much he hated space travel in ANH. Obi-Wan rides a shrieking creature (like the Taun Tauns of ESB), that's essentially a giant lizard (like the Dewbacks in ANH). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Taun-taun's a lizard, a snow lizard. Perhaps what Obi is riding in Sith is a lesser evolved creature that if placed in cold climate could evolve into a taun-taun. [/crazy rambling] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Hmm, the Taun Taun looks pretty mammilian to me. I know in the early concepts of it it was more reptilian (definately a "snow lizard" there), but I can't tell it's a "lizard" in ESB now... The thing Obi-Wan rides looks like a large version of an earth lizard with a feathery headdress glued on (straight out of those old B-movies that used similar cheap effects, though they didn't have CG!). The Taun Taun doesn't look like any earth animal (a cross between a mountain goat, a camel and a kangaroo?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Tauntauns are a species of snow lizard found roaming the windswept snow plains of Hoth. Click. I've noticed there are types of lizards in a lot of the movies, perhaps Lucas has a soft spot for lizards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I luv tauntauns, they're all named marshmallow to me. but they get slaughtered by my uncle, and I hear their screaming when I wake up. then my dad comes in and says "Hello Clarise" and it scares me, cause my name's Avery. (I made that up) similarities- ep 3 and 4-WILHELM SCREAM!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I stand corrected then. Had I not read it, I'd never have known it was intended to be a reptile... (Then again Salacious P. Crumb is also supposed to be a lizard-monkey!) *bestows true SW Nerd Crown to Insane Sith* So you can list that as a "similarity" I suppose, but on a technicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFK Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Not sure if this is a similarity, but every planet in every movie has the same climate, even at the poles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 That statement is a little over-exaggerated, you don't actually know that, they haven't travelled to the poles of the planets so you're really just assuming. What is true is that the planets climates aren't as diverse as Earths, but it's acceptable to have a desert planet or an ice planet, which is what our planet would be like if the average temperature was 10 or 20 degrees higher or lower. I'm sure that planets like Naboo and Yavin differ in climate in places, Mustafar is like earth billions of years ago. Some planets just aren't as diverse as ours, perhaps not as evolved as ours, like Mustafar or they are even more evolved than ours like Tatooine or Hoth. So what you said is a bit exaggerated, not every planet, and probably not the same at the poles, but it's ok for them to be the same climate in most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLancelot Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 There are definitely threads of similarities runnign through all the films. Like someone said, a "reference". a cliche? I think not. After all this links the SAGA together. One of the funniest is the long drawn out "NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" in every film by one of the characters. Episode I : Obi Wan when Qui-Gon gets run through by Darth Maul Episode II : Anakin while slaughtering the Sandpeople(Yoda hears it through the Force) Episode III : When Darth Vader learns he killed Padme, which he did in a way. Episode IV: Luke when Obi Wan gets sliced in half by Vader. Episode V: Luke when Vader tells him that he is his father. Episode VI : When Vader threatens to turn Leia to the darkside and Luke begins his frenzied attack. One question: Has Lucas always put the numerical sequence 1138 in all the films in reference to his first film THX-1138? I know it's in Episode IV. Luke, disguised as Stormtrooper, tells the Imperial office that he is transferring Chewbacca from Cell Block 1138. Any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Episode I : Obi Wan when Qui-Gon gets run through by Darth Maul Episode II : Anakin while slaughtering the Sandpeople(Yoda hears it through the Force) Episode III : When Darth Vader learns he killed Padme, which he did in a way. Episode IV: Luke when Obi Wan gets sliced in half by Vader. Episode V: Luke when Vader tells him that he is his father. Episode VI : When Vader threatens to turn Leia to the darkside and Luke begins his frenzied attack. Episode I: That one was fine. Episode II: Don't remember it. Episode III: Heinous. Episode IV: Didn't believe it, (He wasn't sliced in half, he became one with the force.) Episode V: Excruciating Episode VI: Nothing wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLancelot Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 True, though he was killed by Vader. I always say that knowing it's wrong. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Well, They say "I've got a bad feeling about this" in every movie. And every movie also starts with a space sequence. But the best one is that the Clone Trooper who dies in the beginning from cannon fire from the CIS space ship (Where Anakin & crew) is on, screams the same way as Boba Fett when he gets launched into the Sarlacc Pit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkonium Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I also noticed some similiarities between the other prequels: -in all three prequels, someone from Naboo makes a motion in the Senate that will change the galaxy forever(Padme in TPM, Palpatine in AOTC and ROTS. -in all three prequels, we see Coruscant, Naboo and Tatooine -in all three prequels, there is a new Sith Lord(Maul in TPM, Tyranus in AOTC, Vader in ROTS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I also noticed some similiarities between the other prequels: -in all three prequels, someone from Naboo makes a motion in the Senate that will change the galaxy forever(Padme in TPM, Palpatine in AOTC and ROTS. Actually thats: Padme - I Jar-Jar - II Palpatine - III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Well, They say "I've got a bad feeling about this" in every movie. And every movie also starts with a space sequence. But the best one is that the Clone Trooper who dies in the beginning from cannon fire from the CIS space ship (Where Anakin & crew) is on, screams the same way as Boba Fett when he gets launched into the Sarlacc Pit I believe that stock scream is called "The Wilhelm." Another similarity: "Join me and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son!" (Vader to Luke, ESB) (also followed by "I'll never join you!") "You must join me Obi-Wan and together we will destroy the Sith!" (Dooku to Obi-Wan, AOTC) (also followed by "I will never join you, Dooku.") And finally (don't have the exact wording, lacking the DVD), but Anakin's speech to Padme in ROTS about how they could rule the galaxy together, "make things the way we want them to be." etc. Another famous repeating cliche... FALLING. Technically the "Noooo!" in ROTJ is actually "Never!" but still, I know what you're saying. One thing you never see in the prequels, but you see in the OT... starlines (for hyperspace jumps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Episode II : Anakin while slaughtering the Sandpeople(Yoda hears it through the Force) The one yelling "No" at that part would be Qui-Gon, not Anakin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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