Yet ANOTHER KOTOR III Storyline!!! :D

[Tysyacha]

The True Sith were not the ones who formed the galaxy. However,

these powerful and reclusive beings have existed since the very

beginning, since the stars were first born in clouds of dust. They

watched all sentient life come into being, and they were glad.

 

They are not glad now. The True Sith, in their deep, intrinsic knowledge

of both sides of the Force, have come to hate what they see.

 

The followers of the Light Side are failures. In the eyes of the

True Sith, the Jedi have turned their backs on true power

and fulfillment of their destinies. All to help the weak, whom

the True Sith would have fought to extinction long ago.

 

The followers of the Dark Side have also erred, although in a

different way. They have chosen to follow leaders instead of

principles, emperors instead of ideals, figureheads instead of

themselves. The Dark Jedi want true power, but they have

become completely consumed by the petty battles of mortalkind,

which the True Sith have come to despise. Emperors and empires

always die, and the Dark Jedi have never realized this yet.

 

The True Sith wish to bring judgment upon the galaxy, and exterminate

all life, whether it be plant or animal, sentient or non-sentient,

bacterium or demigod. They will create the galaxy anew, out of

nothing but darkness, as it was in the very beginning.

 

Only a few have the resolve to try and stay this ultimate condemnation...

 

Revan, with sheer power and the best military tactics in the galaxy.

The Exile, with a unique ability to draw upon the power of friends and foes.

You, and your (influenced) party, who have the most precious thing of all...

 

A choice.

 

The True Sith have offered you a chance to become one of their

co-creators once the galaxy has been erased. Will you accept, and

thus become the most powerful mortal the universe has ever known?

 

Or will you follow Revan and the Exile to war, and risk it all to save

the galaxy from the True Sith, however flawed it may be at present?

[kookaburra]

hmmmm interesting...what is this suppose to lead too though? a poem? a saying?

[Tysyacha]

Uhhh...that would be what I would put on the back of the KOTOR III box!

[Phaedra36]

That would have to be a big box then . Nice idea though.

[JediMaster12]

Nice sales pitch:D Kidding aside it's not bad. Still I have a reason to believe that the True Sith will be nothing but a dark presence left by the ancient Sith Lords and the dark places that Revan may have created.

[igyman]

Interesting stuff, but I don't think that the True Sith are in any way godlike as you describe them.

[Cygnus Q'ol]

The race of true sith are probably extinct by now.

[zadi]

The storyline isn't bad but it reminds me too much of Babylon 5 with the First Ones as well as the Shadows and the Vorlons (children to the First Ones). In your storyline, the Sith'ari were the first ones and the Sith and Jedi were their "offsping." Both are polar opposites of each other yet both were assigned to watch over the galaxy and younger species. Like I said, too much like Babylon 5.

[Chira]

I don't like the idea of open war...

[Non-false Jedi]

From the conversations with Kreia and Sion i think the Sith are simply the remnants of the ancient Sith Empire that fought the Great Hyperspace War. From what i understand its never clearly show what caused their fall int he Tales of the Jedi comics, but they were effectivly extinct by the time of Exar Kun and ULic-Quel Droma. Or at least we had thought.

 

Since Marka Ragnos proclaimed Exar Kun the Dark Lord of the Sith, they must have degenerated to a less advanced society, or at very least, one not capable of threatening the rest of the galaxy.

 

I guessed that survivors of the Great Sith War might have escaped the Republic and fled to the unknown Regions perhaps to Ziost, while the Jedi "destroyed" Exar Kun on Yavin.

 

With the combined power of the ancient Sith half breeds and EXar Kuns former servants, they might have build up a darkside powerbase. But they still didn't have enough might to openinly challenge the Republic, so they engineered for thier old "allies" the Mandalorians to begin their war.

 

I'm hoping these Sith are far calmer and more patient and rational than the Sith we mostly saw in Kotor. Less obsessed with betraying each other at every opportunity, and more into manipulation for the common goal of their civilization. Not the "Grrrr...angry-give me money-attack everything" thugs we saw a lot of in Kotor I. And they would understand the virture of patience in exacting their vengence. The course of the galactic affairs seemed to favour their return soon.

 

They also might have drawn Revan to Malachor and Korriban after the horror he experienced in the wars which led to the Jedi Civil War further weaking the galaxy. Consider the unstable version of the Sith that Revan lead. THe Anceint Sith Lords weren't quite so...anarchic. So perhaps it is no coincidence that Revan and the Jed learned the more...violet teachings of the Sith.

 

I think if they were godlike it would be too improbable to beat, but i'm guessing they are the TRUE masters of the Darkside. If they encountered the rest of the Sith survivors i'd imagine they would want to bolster their army by show those "novices" the true power of the dark side of the force.

 

Oh and i didn't mean to step on your toes or hijack your idea thread. but i'm thikning they shouldn't so drastically change the concept of the Sith, from a primitive species that bred with Dark Jedi then grew to an empire, to God-like beings from the dawn of time in the galaxy.

[Buzz1978]

I guessed that survivors of the Great Sith War might have escaped the Republic and fled to the unknown Regions perhaps to Ziost, while the Jedi "destroyed" Exar Kun on Yavin.

Ok, it's not entirely defined what the Unknown Regions are, but I think Ziost is not part of it, since the Jedi probably know where it is.

 

With the combined power of the ancient Sith half breeds and EXar Kuns former servants, they might have build up a darkside powerbase. But they still didn't have enough might to openinly challenge the Republic, so they engineered for thier old "allies" the Mandalorians to begin their war.

It could work that way but for Ziost being the "evils HQ" you probably would have to "erase" everything afterwards to fit into the later storyline - the New Sith Wars... I consider it more likely that they think of an entirely new planet so they don't have to keep all storylines in mind.

 

I'm hoping these Sith are far calmer and more patient and rational than the Sith we mostly saw in Kotor. Less obsessed with betraying each other at every opportunity, and more into manipulation for the common goal of their civilization.

That's a little to much turning away from the idea of the Sith for me. They should be smarter than the Sith in K1 and K2 though, but should a Sith really believe in something like a "common goal"? They should be more manipulating and that includes betraying *if* it actually serves a purpose and if they do something for their empire it should still be their hunger for power what drives them...

 

Oh and i didn't mean to step on your toes or hijack your idea thread.

Me neither.

[Non-false Jedi]

I had a perfect response but i lost it when i attempted to send it.

 

My response was that ture, the Sith would of course be driven by lust for power and survival of the fittest, but i'm hoping they are smart enough to know that weakening the empire as a whole for personal gain is a bad idea. Especially in a war. That is really what did in Revan and Malak. and Ziost or wherever the True Sith might be in the ancient sith empire will probably be destroyed...ending the Sith threat for the next 2000 years where there is supposed to be peace.

 

THte thing about prequal rpgs is that we know the Republic and Jedi are supposed to win till Rots unless its Alternate universe.

[Darth InSidious]

"Animals. Birds. Fish. Reptiles. All life is my enemy. All life shall perish under the reign of Sutekh the Destroyer!" - Sutekh The Destroyer, Pyramids of Mars

^That the kind of thing?

 

Interesting idea, but the Sith are either a species (who were very primitive when the Dark Jedi arrived, IIRC), or another split from the Jedi Order, in which case they are only 25,000 years old, I thought...

[Chira]

I agree with Non-false Jedi... At least, these Sith can teach the "Old Sith" these new

ways of patience and "stealth revenge" which is there in the movies. This can be

the story how Sith restrictions were invented ...

[Buzz1978]

My response was that ture, the Sith would of course be driven by lust for power and survival of the fittest, but i'm hoping they are smart enough to know that weakening the empire as a whole for personal gain is a bad idea. Especially in a war. That is really what did in Revan and Malak.

I think our opinions aren't far apart but I disagree with the last sentence. It is stated that when the Mandalorians began to attack non-republic-worlds in the Outer Rim the republic was already weakened due to the war with Exar Kun. After the Mandalorian Wars it wasn't stronger either and both Revan and Malak had perfectly good reasons to do what they did. Malak simply saw the chance to conquer the known galaxy (it's good enough for Palpy though) and you can't blame him for weakening his opponent, even if his approach was more brute than smart, considering that he weakened something, he wanted to rule later...

Revan's intentions as stated in TSL were more profound - he knew of the bigger threat and that the weakened republic couldn't stand against it and that's why he wanted to "unite" the republic worlds under a Sith empire and convert all Jedi to the DS.

[kotor_freak]

i like your idea very much and i love the idea of an open war.

[crimson_88]

I like the idea of open war. It sounds pretty neat.

[CountVerilucus]

That just made me think of something, which was probably thought of before by a lot of people and I'm about a year behind...but im going to mention it anyways.

 

 

Here's the thing about the Sith. They always talk of power, and the how the Jedi hold back on it. "They are puppets of the force...they do not know true power...the power of the dark side is stronger...yada yada yada."

 

However everytime they try and mount on assault on the Republic and\or Jedi. They seem to be more powerful at the start of each conflict. The dark siders always have a good running start. It seems like all is lost and they are about to win. But in the end, they lose. Like Exar Kun, Darth Revan\Malak, even Sidious. Sidious and Vader almost had exterminated the Jedi and managed to destroy the Republic. They were in control, their dominance had the galaxy on its knees. But still Jedi and Republic come out on top. Sidious and Vader die, Death Star destroyed. New Jedi order and Republic was formed. The Imperial Remnant makes a good attempt to take back the galaxy, but doesn't. They always lose, no matter what.

 

So if the Sith think theyre so damned powerful, why do they always lose?

[JediMaster12]

Like Carth says in KOTOR:

"I guess that's the nature of the dark side. All power, no longetivity."

[Lexi Saar]

The true sith might not even be human for all we know.and they could be midgets.maybe the yoda race are true sith eh?

[JediMaster12]

Welcome Lexi Saar!!

 

As I've said before, I don't believe the True Sith are a species at all but a permeating dark presence that lies in the Unknown Regions capable of corrupting the most innocent of sentients.

[Non-false Jedi]

Not a bad idea, But doesn't Kriea say they have an empire they rule elsewhere? How could left over dark taints rule an empire?

 

Did you guys find that Revan and Malak were at all too concerned with personal power? Exar Kun and ULic never seemed to have quite hte same amount of problem.

[JediMaster12]

I don't recall her mentioning an empire except to say that there was none anymore and that the Sith of now are nothing more than followers of an ideal. Unless you have a True Sith who managed to last more than ten revolutions, that's something else.

[RedHawke]

Hate to dissapoint, but the True Sith is a species. They don't necissarily have to be all darkside either. Supposedly they could command either aspect of the Force with no ill effects, they were immune to the corrupting influence of the darkside, how this was so wasn't clear. Personally, I think it had to do with their form of training, mastering ones self first, then mastering the Force.

 

The Dark Lords of the Sith, the ones we have seen in Star Wars all along, simply are followers of the ideals set down by the first Dark Jedi that discovered the True Sith people, and those Dark Jedi took some of the True Sith tenanants and merged them with their twisted form of the Jedi code. It is true that those first Dark Jedi also mingled with some members of the True Sith race.

 

Basically the True Sith would blame the Jedi Order, and the Republic that they are the heart of, for those Dark Jedi that arrived and perverted their beliefs, some of their people, and destroyed their way of life in the process.

 

Pretty good motivations for the surviving remnants of the True Sith for wanting the Jedi and Dark Jedi dead, and invading the Republic to me. Add to this the fact that they are one of the Ancient peoples of the Star Wars Galaxy...

[Darth Windu]

To me, the True Sith sound like some ancient evil in hibernation. After all, Kreia says that they rule a vast Empire which includes Malachor V and Korriban, but for now they have forgotten. However, sometime soon they will remember, and come back to claim what is theirs.

 

I should also point out that if the True Sith were a non-Dark Side species, Revan wouldn't be all that worried about them. Personally I think they sound rather ominous, and everything is coming to a head. After all, we have

 

- Ancient Enemy awakening

- Most powerful Jedi leaves to stop them

- Armies and Alliances being forged to stop them

 

This looks like the beginnings of a great game to me