Whats better The Empire or the Rebels

[Cheech Marin]

Ha! That was just a minor setback - that death star was actually only a decoy - why do you think it was that easily destroyed? And the emperor wasn't killed - it was only his stunt-double. He used that trick in order to flush out traitors. Yes, the rebel scum once again managed to wriggle themselves out of the trap - which is because they cheated (once again, furry savages aided them) - but the chase goes on! Those filthy criminals won't be able to escape justice forever! No matter how far they are fleeing - the Empire's hand will eventually reach them.

 

You actually believe those lies that are constantly being circulated all over the HoloNet? Hmm, it seems I won't be able to turn you to the right side in this war. I guess I'll just have to wait until I meet your TIE fighter in my X-Wing. You'll be, what, kill number 156? Until then....

[Darth Plagus]

Yeah, he foresaw everything. Just like he "foresaw" his own death at the hands of Anakin Skywalker and the destruction of his precious little battle station. Lemme guess: did he also foresee the destruction of the first Death Star too? Because if he did, he's actually not that good of a leader.

 

well, obviously no one can be perfect...but i mean the guy controlled everything in a galaxy of thousands of planets...for a heck of a long time. Arguing over tiny semantics is useless...the fact of the matter is that he OWNED lmao. If he was younger, he wouldn't have needed to try and snatch a new apprentice to take his place eradicating those pitiful rebellion members, but alas, age catches up to everyone and the guy was quite old. I mean he was already an old man when Anakin was a young pup...Imagine all those hours in plastic surgery...the face lifts, organ replacements...i mean its taxing on a guy!! If only that Joan Rivers person would have been there to give him advice...maybe things'd be different? lmao

All hail Emporer Plagus the Wise

 

In response to the combat thing. Yea the empire has the broadside cruisers but idk if its just me but ive found that the Marauder is more effective...Idk what the stats or anything are but there ya go. And the reason i didnt mention the xwings or bombers is because...i mean come on...a couple of tartans and it doesnt matter if you have 50 of each of them lol. But if they dont have tartans...bombers rip through s. stations and ships pretty quick...and they are perfect for hit and runs against hangars and shields...so i know what your saying...

 

 

(If those rebels would have just quit their complaining the Emporer could have brought p.e.a.c.e to the galaxy. He wouldnt need to blow up planets, or destroy those worthless bothans. The emp. wasnt evil, the rebels were! they were the ones fighting against peace...its true...lol lol

[Lucho]

I think that the campaing of the Empire is easier, cause Darth Vader and the Emperor can smash everithing on their way

[Coraan Talme]

You actually believe those lies that are constantly being circulated all over the HoloNet? Hmm, it seems I won't be able to turn you to the right side in this war. I guess I'll just have to wait until I meet your TIE fighter in my X-Wing. You'll be, what, kill number 156? Until then....

Quite obviously, you are one of the poor victims of rebel propaganda. They specialize in rounding up naive country boys on backwater planets and use those badly informed lads without any scruples in their terroristic attack on imperial citizens. Those people are easily swayed by the rebel's improbable tales and tend not to question the logic behind their motives ... they just see the romantic notion of the thing - not the reality.

It is FACT that rebels routinely do - instead of heroic fighting - cowardly bombing attacks on unsuspecting imperial installations.

It is FACT that - as has been already mentioned - it's the rebels who started this war and kept it alive.

It is FACT that rebels consort with smugglers and other criminals in order to achieve their fanatic and sinister goals.

It is FACT that they let wookies to run -without any leash or other methods of control- free on civilized and inhabited worlds ...

Did you know how many different diseases can dwell in the lush biotop of a wookie pelt? Did you ever see a rebel that could give you a proper decontamination certificate for his wookie? No? That's because they are SMUGGLING them past the proper authorities. Wookies are dangerously feral critters - and the rebels undermine our efforts to civilize them. Did you know that the first 'Death Star' had considerable medical facilities on board and was researching cures for deadly plagues? That it carried supplies for starving outposts? No? Rebels don't give you the whole picture - just their tiny, skewed version of it! Or did they tell you that - under imperial government - the IQ and degree of the citizens has risen by a significant degree? The Empire 's schooling system and the Palpatine-Charity-Fund for poor students is responsible for that!

And what do the rebels do? Fill the holonet with ridiculous tales of how single rebels are shooting down imperial elite troopers like clay pigeons. Did you ever wonder why Tie Fighters have no shields? Because we don't need them - unlike pitiful rebel pilots, we can evade shots. Imperial pilots can take down any number of rebel crafts. I've already bagged quite a few corvettes on my own - just in a good old reliable tie bomber. And X-Wings ... those flawed prototypes of an inferior fighter model ... they may have shields, but they are flying through space like a bulky crate with wings. Sure, we could duel - but to make it more interesting, be sure to bring along a few of your fellows.

[Cheech Marin]

Cowardly bombing attacks, eh? May I remind you of a little thing called the Ghorman Massacre? Or how about the destruction of an entire world, known as Alderaan? Who are the cowardly murderers now? And don't you dare give me any of your crap about how "Rebel terrorists" took control of the station's main weapon and fired it at the planet.

 

The Rebel Alliance started this war for a reason: To remove the tyrannical regime of that decrepid old man on Coruscant. Maybe if you listened to the truth instead of Imperial lies you could believe me. I for one, would gladly have freedom while in a state of civil war, instead of total lack of freedom while at peace.

 

Rebels consorting with smugglers and other "criminals"? Well, I guess that depends on your definition of criminal. I would like to bring up a situation that was fairly recent, only a few months before the Battle of Endor. It involved a deal between the Alliance and a coalition of smugglers led by a charming fellow named Dunari. The smugglers and the Alliance would help each other by securing the cargo of convoys bound for Imperial installations. We would, of course ensure the safety of any civilian convoy crews. It was working fine, until one of the member smuggler groups, the Hurrim, decided to destroy one of the convoys we were raiding. We could not allow this to happen, obviously, so instead of continuing our mission of disabling the convoy craft, we decided to prevent the Hurrim fighters from killing the innocent people aboard those freighters. Just goes to show you that while we do work with those of a dubious nature from time to time, there is a line that we will not allow to be crossed.

 

As for Wookiees, I'll have you know that they are quite an intelligent species and superior to humans in several respects. They have their own civilization, culture, art, music, and are capable of advanced architecture. You should really check out one of their tree-cities. Oh wait, you can't do that. The second you step on Kashyyyk, a Wookiee would probably tear you in half after he found out you were in the Imperial Navy....

 

And another thing, I'll have you know that I can evade blaster shots in an X-Wing just as good as any TIE pilot, and I guess I must be better, since I am flying the "inferior" spacecraft.

[Coraan Talme]

Even more rebel propaganda lies! You are sadly misinformed!

The so called 'Ghorman Massacre' was clearly an accident, misinformed rioters - stirred by scrupoulless rebel conspirators - rushed to a landing platform ... ignoring all security regulations. The poor guy who piloted that ship of course couldn't stop the landing procedure in time. Yes, you can throw yourself under an At-At's feet - but when you're squashed, don't blame the empire and expect to be revered as a martyr! The organisators of such demonstrations are clearly behaving completely irresponsible - the people who do this only care for the show effect on the holo net, not for the security of their hapless followers.

And Alderaan? They always speak of Alderaan - this oh so peaceful world of philosophers and flower collectors. HA! It was a center of treachery and unrest, where criminals of all kind could gather freely to plot their nefarious acts. You can bet that it was everything but a defenseless civil world. In any case, its transformation into an asteroid belt - as pretty and sensible as that may have been - was in fact due to a huge asteroid that was on its course to the planet. The Death Star was sent into the system in a selfless attempt to destroy that planetkiller. Nobody on Alderaan was warned about the incoming asteroid, of course, because the elite had already made their escape - it was all a heinous conspiracy intended to frame the empire for the tragedy. As you can see - some people still believe it even now! Many lives could have been saved, if the Empire had been informed earlier. Ah well, as I said - it's no great loss to the galaxy. The Empire would have been perfectly within its right to blast it.

A few words to the Emperor and his history: Tyrannical regime? Ha! He was elected fairly and in a democratic process. He had just ended a huge galactic conflict - when the Jedi traitors suddenly tried to assassinate him and ursurp his power. He was severely wounded - but he still faithfully does his difficult duties despite all treachery in order to return peace and order to the galaxy. That is quite remarkable - for such a 'decrepit' old man, don't you think?

As to the Hurrim affair - so you admit that you are in contact with dangerous criminals? What did you expect them to do? It's in the nature of such criminals to shoot at the helpless and to eliminate witnesses. Some of those rebels may have had a little conscience and suddenly changed their plans, but for each of those incidents - how many times do greed and fanatism win over? Besides, all you've accomplished to do is steal imperial supply goods - charity food, that was intended to be used for impoverished colonies. So - can you rest easily with the thought of the thousands of children your thieving has left with an empty belly? And do not speak of the supposed heroism of this Dunari! The man is a seedy casino owner ... hardly a trustworthy fellow.

Concerning Wookies - I have been to Kashyyk many times - and I've seen the filthy hovels those critters live in. This is certainly not culture! You are of course right, ordinarily, visitors to this planet are ripped apart without mercy by those feral beasts - but not if they are part of a well trained reconnaisance mission that managed to save several civilian passengers of a wrecked spaceship deep in the forbidden jungle. Yes, we were attacked several times - but our blasters were steady and discipline and courage prevailed against the wookies primitive rushes. Trust me - what the rebel propaganda tries to tell you about wookies - that they are brave big teddy bears - is nothing but a bunch of lies.

I am a veteran of the imperial taskforce that ended the Sepan Civil War - at great risk to our own lives, we brought an old and bloody feud to an end - and that is just one example of the Empire acting as a benevolent peacekeeping force in the galaxy.

As to your challenge: It's not my fault that you choose to fly in an inferior vessel because it lulls you in the false security of a thick layer of shields. And -quite possibly - it is indeed the better vehicle for the typical rebel pilots. You would be lost in a tie fighter and unable to use its superior maneuverability anyway. It takes a lot of skill and training to be a succesfull tie pilot - whereas rebels can grab any poor guy off the streets and dress them in one of their orange flightsuits - then stuff them into a fighter and lead them to battle. I guess the shields do help them to stay alive for a few more seconds, as does the hyperdrive that they need to run away. But it's ultimately their sheer numbers that present somewhat of a challenge to our experienced pilots.

[Cheech Marin]

Man, you really need to quit hitting the Ryll spice. First of all, your blatant hypotheses are in complete contradiction with practically all sources of galactic history.

Just so you know, the convoy that was attacked by the combined Alliance-Hurrim force was carrying blasters and other weapons, not food. I saw the after action reports that came through that day, and they clearly said that the raiding forces discovered that the convoy ships were filled to the brim with all kinds of weapons, without even a single grain of barq on any of those ships. Ask any of the pilots or soldiers who took part in that engagement, and they will tell you the same.

Filthy hovels? Have you ever seen Kachirho City? I must say that their architecture rivals that of some buildings found on Coruscant! You obviously have no appreciation for the natural world. I don't know why you're talking about Wookiees attacking other beings visiting their world. I've been there several times, and every time the Wookiees were quite hospitable.

As for TIE Fighters, the controls on those ships aren't much more complicated that any other starfighter out there. You just don't have to worry about keeping your shields charged, and make sure you keep an eye on your scopes to make sure an enemy isn't lining up a shot on you. I've flown them in the combat simulator before, just so I can be familiar with some of the tricks you guys might try to pull on me. It's not that much different from rebel fighters.

Finally, since when did rebels ever outnumber imperial fighters? I find that it's almost always the other way around, except when dealing with Advanced TIE's or TIE Defenders. Now those are a real challenge.

[Coraan Talme]

As mentioned before, you seem to have access to the wrong kinds of 'information' sources. And the mentioned convoy was clearly a humanitarian one. I had a look into the cargo protocols - the one that were shown to you obviously must have been forged, as it is often the case during rebel missions. Your so-called leaders are conducting a careful desinformation campaign for the average gunman/pilot in order to maintain your morale. Let's be realistic: A pitiful strikeforce of rebels and other criminals would have had no chance against a regular military convoy.

Kachirho City? Ah yes - I've heard of it. It's all fake - a tourist attraction built by some crazed businessmen who thought they could lure visitors to that place by showing them the original and pittoresque Wookie culture. Of course, the plan failed miserably after most of the tourist were eaten. But yes, there are actually still Wookies nesting there. If you've never been attacked by a Wookie, you are a lucky man indeed. Or perhaps you were shown some carefully drugged specimens. I don't know what kind of devices your rebel leaders have constructed to keep them at least somewhat tractable. Perhaps some cybernetic implants in the brain region?

Whatever - once again to the topic of imperial Ties. You seem to think they are simple to handle - that is deceiving. They do have a very clever interface that allows smooth operation ... but trust me: mastering the vessels in order to experience their full power is something else. And I doubt that your simulator models are capable of that. See, even you are forced to admit that the advanced tie models are superior to rebel craft - rebel engineers just can't keep up with their poorly understood stolen prototypes. Anyway, let me assure you: even the regular ties are formidable vessels indeed. If you are wondering why nowadays you are seeing more imperial fighters than rebel ones - well, I can solve this riddle for you: Its because your's is a lost cause. Even the swarms of new conscripts from backwater planet find it increasingly difficult to counter the huge losses your forces are experiencing whenever they meet a proper imperial fleet in a regular battle. It is not to late to repent! Your leaders will only waste you as further cannon fodder! Now is the time to wake up and cross their sinister plans! Go to the nearest imperial facility immediately and surrender. The people there can and will help you.

[darthcarth]

I agree with the last part about the imperial vessels being better because after the war the rebels or the reepublic used alot of the Imperial vessels instead of thier own.

[Cheech Marin]

Somehow I doubt that blasting a hole in my chest counts as "helping me." Or at least attempting to blast a hole in my chest. Anyway, there is a reason that the New Republic revamped the old Imperial-class Star Destroyer and used it in its new spacefleet, Darthcarth. They didn't have enough large capital ships of their own (Mon Calamari cruisers, which are in fact superior to star destroyers. At least they don't have exposed shield generators on the top of the ship.) so they decided to use the many star destroyers that wisely joined the New Republic after the victory at Endor. Coraan, what if I was to tell you that you were the one who was being deceived? I'll bet that they didn't just teach you how to fly TIE fighters in that academy. They turned you into a mindless drone and taught you to love "Big Brother" erm, I mean Emperor Palpatine. From what I know about Imperial brainwashing, it's quite difficult to deprogram someone who has been exposed to it.

[wedge2211]

No, no, no. They won't blast a hole in your chest. What do you think they have interrogator droids for, anyway? At least take heart in the fact that you won't remember anything afterward.

 

Anyway...I think that the Rebel Alliance is much more complex to play, especially because of raid fleets and other little tricks like that. The Imperials, on the other hand, are just very cool to play. I love arriving in a system with Star Destroyers or dropping AT-ATs on the ground.

[Coraan Talme]

Indeed, imperial medical facilities use advanced rehabilitation programs for their patients - and the needles on these interrogator droids don't hurt at all! Soon you will be a happy and useful citizen again, Mr. Marin -though sadly I can't speak from personal experience, as I've always been a loyal servant of the empire. It seems that some particularly ruthless jedis have played a few very nasty tricks to your memory - you know, mind tricks ... that's why the rebels are still keeping the members of this dangerous sect around. A rebel victory at Endor? HA! Mon Calamari Cruisers aren't capable of withstanding a star destroyer's turbolaser salves ... And no dirty trick will be able to make up for that.

[Cheech Marin]

Obviously you must be experiencing a completely different version of the Star Wars franchise than what I have seen, read, and played. Every bit of Star Wars material I have ever come across says that a Mon Cal cruiser is quite capable of holding its own against a Star Destroyer, if not being capable of destroying it outright. You're clearly insane, so I think I'll end this debate at that.

[jedi3112]

I don't know what lies the rebels tell, but the Empire doesn't blow holes in peoples chests, in fact you may even get help in your qeust to see the truth from Darth Sidious or Darth Vader themself. Even people that didn't surrender were offered to see the light. Just remember Luke Skywalker. Lord Vader did everything he could to help him see the light. He may have decided to keep living in lies, but that is HIS choice.

 

And the Emperor is an elected government official. In fact he loves democracy. But the rebels are doing everything they can to destroy democracy. Don't blame us for upholding democracy and the will of the people.

 

And mon calamari cruisers are not I repeat NOT superior to StarDestroyers. And having an external shield generator doesn't really matter. It can only be damaged once the shields are down. Do you really think the shields will recharge to a significant strecngt DURING a battle? Sure maybe afterwards, but you will still have battle damage that has to be repaired. Or in the case of the Empire you will only need a new paintjob (symbols have to be added for all the rebels you killed during the battle). Either way you still have to return to the shipyard so they can replace your shield generator if it had been destoyed (like it would be on rebel ships, not Imperial ships though, like I said they don't get damaged).

 

Also the TIEs you claim to hve destoyed can't be Imperial TIEs. Unless you shoot pilots in training on their first flight during take-off. That would make you a simple cowardly murderer. Any Imperial pilot that has well over 10 seconds of real flight can blow any rebel scum to bits. Now matter what ships the Empire and the rebels use. Even in the Z-95, V-Wing or even the 4000 year old Fighters from the Sith War (and still even older), Imperial pilots can take on rebel pilots in even TIE Defenders and Missle Boats. They can even take out mon calamari cruisers and correlian corvettes in those ships on their own with both hands tied behind their back and the flight controls and weapons completely removed. And I am NOT talking about suicide runs here, just fair combat.

 

And if Alderaan is peacefull then why do they have armed corvettes? That doesn't look peacefull to me.

[Cheech Marin]

No wonder this country is goin' to Hell.... Next you're gonna say that Hitler wasn't so bad either!

[Coraan Talme]

Error: Reply out of context/character Error!

Corrective measure initiated:

What country are you talking about, sir? That one (just a wild guess)? Sorry, that's not mine and I can't really comment on its state. And this is not a discussion about history - especially not about the history of our mythical homeworld on 'earth'. It's just a friendly discussion about galactic politics. Praising the achievements of the empire while sneering a little at rebel scum should not be taken as a generalized and obviously incorrect statement that old earth's dictators were jolly good fellows. We are talking about spaceships and star colonies! Let's not get confused in that respect ...

Returning to the question of Star Destroyers vs. Mon Calamari: Well I have never heard of Mon Calamari cruisers being more powerful than Star Destroyers. Considering the valuable reference of the simulation program Tie Fighter, Mon Calamari cruisers are nearly on par with Star Destroyers ... but certainly not superior. And I have to agree with Jedi3112 - Tie Fighter pilots are very well trained & know that they are fighting for a just cause ... a combination that will let them triumph over any number of heavily armed rebel fighters.

Yet ... ultimately - it's the question this thread is asking: Which side do you prefer? Whom do you trust? It's up to the individual to decide who deserves loyalty.

[Cheech Marin]

Oh.... Well. Um.

 

That's a simple question to answer! Naturally I prefer the Rebel Alliance, for the reasons that I have already given.

[StealthWar42]

Okay, hate to break the argument, but just throwing my 2 cents (yeah, i know nobody is going to read this but I like writing this stuff):

 

Anyway, I have to break this down into subcategories, because I'm very, very split.

 

Aesthetics: Empire by far. I've always liked the gray-scale look of the Imperial military, and the symmetry and uniformity of everything. I also liked the massiveness of capital ships compared to the tiny fighters they had... the contrast in sizes just gave a fierce look. Having small fighters to accentuate the size of capital ships definitely would increase the fear factor into the enemy. And... as much as I like heroism... I also like the idea of a uniform, nameless-faceless and numberless army. Talk about intimidation! That, and in my opinion, the best looking ships in any sci-fi have to be those produced by the Empire.

 

Playstyle: I've always enjoyed playing as the Rebels. As much as I like the dominance of the Empire in terms of background, I still enjoy a challenge. To me, the rebels (ideally) are a challenge because playing them requires a cunning mentality (or at least it SHOULD). For the Rebels, it should be more than just using overwhelming force and financial security... it should require knowing the proper time and place to strike, realizing the weaknesses in the Empire's routines, annoying the heck out of the beurocracy, screwing up their logistics, etc. And I like that... it makes things more interesting for me, personally. I like having to take advantage of my enemy's weaknesses as my only means to win.

 

Units: Rebels... I would trade everything of the Empire (as much as I love their war stuff) for the Rebel infiltrators. Special Forces units are interesting... to me, they are the heroes of war. They are the ones that usually take the most difficult tasks, get them done, and return home in glory and fully decorated. If the Empire had a scout forces unit that was similar to the Rebel infiltrators... then this category would go to the Empire instantaneously.

 

Based on the Movies: Well, the first time I saw these movies was when I was three... so I was literally freaked out by the Empire! I would go with the Rebels in this category. Besides... they won! (yeah, yeah, I know that in the expanded universe there's that "remnant" thing and all that, but I'm an OT person. Strictly OT.)

 

Ideology: Empire by far. When it comes to sci-fi terms, I'm a human supremecist. I hate aliens, for many reasons. The main reason why I hate them is that they are so specialized that they can't do anything else other than what their race is good at. Humans, however, can do everything. And if they can't, they find a way to. We're a very inventive species... and I personally find it surprising that anybody would find another race superior to our adaptability and ingenuity. The fact that the Empire is human supremecist is enough to make me an Imperial. I also like the government structure... but I don't want to go into detail, because if I outlined why I liked the government, it would probably offend some people who live in the U.S. and like it there. (for clarification, i'm not either right or left... my views politically are sort of a mix).

 

Music: I would have to go with both. There's some music of the Empire (particularly in the game) that just keeps me focused... gives me a good feeling of tension and concentration. The kind of feeling that's good for a game like this, that requires thought and planning. I love tension, and the Empire's music gives me that feeling. I'm also fascinated with heroism though, and some of the themes in the Rebellion scores tend to invigorate that fascination and give me some inspiration.

 

As a final result... I will have to go with Empire. I'm a musician, and an idealist, so those two categories (1 empire + .5 empire compared to .5 rebel) gave the Empire the win, for my opinion.

 

As a side note: personal pronouns were used frequently in this post. This was to avoid making the post sound like it was fact, when it was just supposed to be opinion. It's not a rant or ramble or anything selfish, just a sharing of opinion.

[ScorLibran]

And the Emperor is an elected government official. In fact he loves democracy. But the rebels are doing everything they can to destroy democracy. Don't blame us for upholding democracy and the will of the people.

The moment he proclaimed himself "Emperor" he ceased to be an elected official.

 

Anyway, for myself the answer to this question is extremely simple; simpler even than my original answer. When I'm playing the Empire, the Empire is better. When I'm playing the Rebellion, the Rebellion is better.

[Darth Plagus]

The moment he proclaimed himself "Emperor" he ceased to be an elected official.

 

Anyway, for myself the answer to this question is extremely simple; simpler even than my original answer. When I'm playing the Empire, the Empire is better. When I'm playing the Rebellion, the Rebellion is better.

 

 

haha, i doubt anyone can argue with that logic. The better side is the one i happen to be playing lol..very nice

[YertyL]

Rebellion ftw.!

I'm too lazy to explain all of my reasons for siding with the Rebellion, but mainly their ideology ( lightside ftw. ) and out-of-the-box-thinking attract me.

 

 

 

It's still also fun to occasionally crush 'em with DV and a lot of Star Destroyers

[Orao]

The moment he proclaimed himself "Emperor" he ceased to be an elected official.

 

 

Sure but who has voted the extraodinary powers to Palpatine. It was the Senate not him self. Besides Republic was corrupted till bone. There was no way for it to survive.

 

And what about the Jedi order. Plz let me laugh. Don't do this don't do that. We use the force for self defense only. Bunch of liers.

 

Jedi attacked legaly elected chancellor. They wanted to seize the power and to rule the "Republic" with their jedi council. Right or Wrong ?

 

Besides, they self proclamed protectors of the Republic without being asked to do so. So who is evil ?

 

Palpatine wanted to save the Galaxy from much greater threat but with stub born jedi council it was impossible to do it.

 

The Empire provides the security and the stability to the galaxy.

[jedi3112]

The moment he proclaimed himself "Emperor" he ceased to be an elected official.

 

He was elected Emperor. Did you not hear the big round of applause when he created the First Galactic Empire. That means the senators (also elected officials) agree with the decision of the chancellor. Off course, some couldn't take their democratic defeat and joined the seperatists in their rebellion against the Republic and now the Empire. Choosing to use terrorism to archieve their goals instead.

 

Yes Orao, you are absolutely right that the jedi are evil hypocritical liers. Though that doesn't refer to dark jedi like me. More commonly known as Sith, though I use jedi to prefent anybody thinking that I am talking about the species or ordinary Sith Troopers that heroicly fought in the Sith Wars.

 

The fact that ordinary jedi are evil hypocritical liers is most easily identified in the words of their own members. This is well known the any loyal Imperials, however for the simple minds of the rebels I shall explain

 

'Only a Sith deals in absolutes'. This however is in fact an absolute by itself. So therefor anybody that states this is in fact a Sith (suppose this would be true, off course). However the jedi say this, does this mean that jedi are Sith? If so doesn't that mean they should all commit massive suicide, because they fight the Sith?

 

Do the jedi allow for relegious/idealist freedom? No they don't. They force everybody to follow THEIR relegion. They don't let people follow the ways of the Sith. In fact they try to hunt down everybody that wants to follow the Sith ideals.

 

How about education? Education with the jedi is a laugh. They don't teach you ALL the aspects of the Force, the completely and consiously forget to teach you the power of the DarkSide. So they diliberatly keep people stupid. They even brainwash people to think the Sith are evil. They want to turn coinsious human beings into mindless droids, only capable to follow THEIR relegion and THEIR ideals.

 

I think I clearly demonstrated here that the jedi want to make everybody THINK that they are happy while in fact they are not truly happy, due to the lack of freedom. So as you can see, we Sith are only right by destroying this evil and restoring freedom to the galaxy. For we are gifted with the FULL Power of the Force and as such it is our duty to protect and restore freedom, protect the forest, introduce volkdancing, a 4 day workweek, and affordable healthcare for saxons and normans.

To do so,

[winston churchill voice]we will fight them on the beaces, we will protect our isle, we shall never surrender, and then they will say, never have so many owed so much to so few. [/winston churchill voice]

[Cheech Marin]

Okay man, just say whatever you want to make your bitter defeat not feel so bad.

[ScorLibran]

He was elected Emperor. Did you not hear the big round of applause when he created the First Galactic Empire. That means the senators (also elected officials) agree with the decision of the chancellor. Off course, some couldn't take their democratic defeat and joined the seperatists in their rebellion against the Republic and now the Empire. Choosing to use terrorism to archieve their goals instead.

No emperor holds an "elected" status, even if he was previously elected to a legislative or executive position. Because no one opposed his proclamation doesn't mean he continues to hold his elected status. When the form of government changed from a Republic to an Empire, a blank slate was created. Even if the same people held similar positions in the government - including him as the "supreme leader" - no previous election results count anymore. You either have another election or you have a totalitarian government. The First Galactic Empire was the latter, which began with Palpatine's initially popular self-appointment to the position of "emperor".

 

But no emperor is "elected", by the very nature of the position - if he were, he wouldn't be an emperor, he'd be a president...or a chancellor.