DarthAve Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I see your point. However you've been going off all the time being all 'I want a scanner' this and 'I would really like a scanner' that it would be a good thing for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 It would be in the real world... sadly I just keep getting these dream dollars. I should really fo' reals have one on Saturday, if not it'll be like one of those TV shows where I keep trying and never succeed and then it gets cancelled before I do succeed. Like Samurai Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Mayhem Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 I try to make myself have lucid dreams (I've had one before, but I made it lame by going 'LOL, teh c0@t f33!5 s0 r33!') but it's not so easy. I can remember most of my dreams though since I wake up ... then fall back asleep. Doing that is scientifically proven to make you remember your dreams. But as freaky as they are, they're still lame in many aspects IMO. I have gotten 'high' in a dream. It feels cool ... but weird. i wouldn't want it to happen in a dream again. The first was a havana cigar (which doesn't count but is close enough) and the 2d and last was laughing gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Oh on the 'all that jazz' part of the topic, I love that movie chicago. I used to do a jazz dance to that song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Mayhem Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 I never got around to seeing the movie , and it seemed like my type. Has anyone ever fallen in a dream and woken up? It feels ... funky ... or when people touch me real sudden like ... funky ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Ya ever have a dream where ya toss and turn in your sleep, and when you wake up you see the room at a completely different angle so you have no idea where you are? I did once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poopdogjr Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I've heard that if you really want to remember your dreams, you should keep a notepad nearby your bed. When you wake up, write down everything you remember. It works, I wouldn't be able to remember alot of mine otherwise. Because it seems (at least with me anyway) you can remember alot right after it happens, but after a while it starts to fade on you. I found a note I wrote before about some dreams. I was tired when I wrote it, and it shows. 1st dream. I wrote Multiple universes, Being chased by some guy, I fall and eventually wake up in real life? Have to wear spac-suit. Run and see planets flying by. See that guy from star trek. Somehow end up at home with game about it. Beat it and at the end online game about Mario KArt online. I loseflying hats and stuff.Jack is mr. Movie guy. Becomes Physic? Drop food on myself. 2nd Dream. About being superman? Roswell, have 2 frineds with me. Stop these guys from hurting us. We run. People become shadows. show up and Onix end up going down a water drain? I have to save her. 3rd Dream. At beach. One day it's kinda rainy out. i walk under board walk and go underneath? PLace gets really full. And multi-leveled. It gets really quite for some reason. People want to hear something. Frined hums looney tunes theme. For some reason, a few people go crazy with exictement. Place really clears out. Family catches my sistr and are mean. We save her.people start leaving. The leader is angry. Starts the lockdown. People get stuck inside. It's like a large hotel/boat place now. I can't make it out, yet I somehow do. Along with afew others. Smoke and laughing leads us to beileve they are being forced to smoke pot. And I have no idea what any of that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klia Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I also had a Simpsons dream. It was strange, it was very strange. As a Simpsons fan, I knew thay Skinner was based off of the guy from Psycho and so my dream was about Skinner being Psycho while everyone else were characters from the original Psycho movie. Oh it was fun. Espically as I was Skinner. Strange, but fun. Since encampment is coming up, I had a dream of being told to wake up for drill, but I couldn't move. I tried opening my eyes, moving my legs, arms, fingers, mouth. None of me moved. Which, is quite funny if you know that I have sleep paralysis. It's a condition where you're minds awake and your bodys asleep, so you're dreaming but you can see what's going on around you. So I guess it was a half-dream. I also had a dream where I was in a plane and crashed. I'll see if I have a dream tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 That's a cool idea, I'm going to bed in a few minutes so I'll see what dreams I have tonight (this morning ). I've been lucky to have really good dream recall anyway (usually at least one a night) but writing them down really helps - at the peak of my 'omg lucid dreaming' craze in early 2005 I was remembering three or four lengthy dreams with insane detail. The other thing that I noticed was that simply by writing them down, plausable subconscious 'meanings of this dream' really jumped out at me; a lot better than using some book. The other thing to do if you want to have lucid dreams are so-called 'reality checks' - this is where you make sure you're not in a dream whenever you're doing everyday things. Make it a routine - go to the bathroom, reality check. Make a sandwich, reality check. A good way to check if you're awake or dreaming is to count your fingers or look at the time or something. If you look at a clock, look away and then look back, if it's a dream it'll probably be a different time. Or maybe the clock will have eight hands, or letters instead of numbers. The idea behind this is that you dream about doing lots of normal stuff and don't even realise you're dreaming, but by doing the reality check you trick your brain into 'waking up' in the middle of the dream, at which point you can take control of said dream. If you do reality checks often enough when you're awake, you'll start doing them without meaning to - subconsciously - which is when you'll start doing it in your dreams too. I never really got the hang of that though. Valerian, Melatonin and Vit-B6 are much easier, though if you want to become a true dream crusader I guess you'd have to do a combination of all three. Just remembered! Another trick that worked for me was to set your alarm for about five hours after you go to bed. When it wakes you up, turn it off and go straight back to sleep - your brain will skip all it's pre-sleep patterns and go straight back into deep sleep, and you'll start dreaming almost straight away. This way you get a good one to three hours (depending on how long you sleep for ) of solid dreaming, and when you wake up they're fresh in your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrohappygirl Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I hada dream once where a giant salami was chasing everyone from my city around and if it touched you you turned into a hamster. It was random. Anyone ever had a dream they properly actually felt? I have. I was flying. It rocked. I also had a dream where I met a person, and lots of other people. At a PSYCHONAUTS convention. This was four years ago that I had this dream, folks. So weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 That's a cool idea, I'm going to bed in a few minutes so I'll see what dreams I have tonight (this morning ). I've been lucky to have really good dream recall anyway (usually at least one a night) but writing them down really helps - at the peak of my 'omg lucid dreaming' craze in early 2005 I was remembering three or four lengthy dreams with insane detail. The other thing that I noticed was that simply by writing them down, plausable subconscious 'meanings of this dream' really jumped out at me; a lot better than using some book. The other thing to do if you want to have lucid dreams are so-called 'reality checks' - this is where you make sure you're not in a dream whenever you're doing everyday things. Make it a routine - go to the bathroom, reality check. Make a sandwich, reality check. A good way to check if you're awake or dreaming is to count your fingers or look at the time or something. If you look at a clock, look away and then look back, if it's a dream it'll probably be a different time. Or maybe the clock will have eight hands, or letters instead of numbers. The idea behind this is that you dream about doing lots of normal stuff and don't even realise you're dreaming, but by doing the reality check you trick your brain into 'waking up' in the middle of the dream, at which point you can take control of said dream. If you do reality checks often enough when you're awake, you'll start doing them without meaning to - subconsciously - which is when you'll start doing it in your dreams too. I never really got the hang of that though. Valerian, Melatonin and Vit-B6 are much easier, though if you want to become a true dream crusader I guess you'd have to do a combination of all three. Just remembered! Another trick that worked for me was to set your alarm for about five hours after you go to bed. When it wakes you up, turn it off and go straight back to sleep - your brain will skip all it's pre-sleep patterns and go straight back into deep sleep, and you'll start dreaming almost straight away. This way you get a good one to three hours (depending on how long you sleep for ) of solid dreaming, and when you wake up they're fresh in your mind. ...are you like a somniologist or something? How do you know all these things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Mayhem Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 I never really understood the reality checks, but the way you put it, it makes more sense. I'm gonna start a dream journal and do the reality checks throughout the day, cuz lucid dreaming is the shiznit. What can I say? I'm a semi-hippy. Not hardcore enough to go vegan, but enough to let the bugs eat away at the plants in the backyard cuz I'm too nice to kill them. But for me, sleep is hard. I easily spent 3+ hours in bed just thinking and not really sleeping. Though I guess in a sense it's actual sleeping since I let my thoughts wander and don't subconciously direct them. Any hints for faster sleep that are easily accesible? Aside from that, I too have woken up not knowing where I was. The feeling is surreal in the least! Has anyone slept with their eyes open? Next to lucid dreaming, it's one of the funkiest dream-related phenomenons I've experienced (I'm glad I've never had sleep-paralisis). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Easy ways to get to sleep: Utter Darkness-Drape a blanket over your windows, the total darkness makes it difficult to tell when your eyes are open or closed, which helps. A Soothing Scent-Candles, incense, it really helps. Tune out distractions-Turn off the TV, and if you live with brothers or sisters ask them to turn TVs or Radios down, as entertaining as this is it really helps with it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 WOw, thanks for the tips Smon, maybe I'll get to sleep by 4 tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Mayhem Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Oh thanx^^, I'll try those tonite. I have some incence (well, mom mom does but whatever) that I can use. I remember when i was little, the opposite was true (in terms of noise). I was apperantly 'the loudest baby the family had had in years' and no one could tell why. They did know that I couldn't fall asleep and my head would hurt (it still happens now, and then I have to take a tylenol to ease the headaches since it wount let me sleep). Just not the cause behind it. Only the car engine or loud running water would help. Now, some super-smart scientist dudes say that some babies have a chronic ringing in their ears that won't let them fall asleep. That's what I have, as of now, I can hear that infernal buzz. But I can luckily turn it off at will now when i go to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 ...are you like a somniologist or something? How do you know all these things? Ha, no I just read a lot about it a few years ago. What can I say? Dreams are like free trips. As for tips for getting to sleep: again, valerian, melatonin. Valerian root is the main ingredient in most non-prescription 'sleeping pills' and melatonin is a hormone your brain produces when it's dark (it's related to serotonin somehow, but I can't remember how - like it's the opposite of, or something. If that means anything at all to you, it means something to you... if you see what I mean) and it's sold primarily as a sleep inducer. It's like the double whammy - take the pills, sleep is induced, dreamstate is clearer. There are other ways to induce weird dreamstates, but they involve ingesting (or smoking etc.) various sacred herbs - nothing illegal, mind (the illegal stuff generally tends to do the opposite of put you to sleep.) I've not tried any of them, but the Calea zacatechichi plant is supposedly powerful. As far as I'm aware you steep the leaves in boiling water and then drink the water - but if you're interested in trying it, obviously research the hell out of it first. And clearly, yes, I haven't gone to sleep yet. Insomnia? Or the fact that I don't have anything to do or anyone to talk to until Saturday? I don't even know anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAve Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I took a catnap before logging back on and had a dreamlet. I had a dream that I was in the neverending story, and I rode that giant white dragon thing, and talked to the turtle lady and saved the magical land. Oh, and I met Bastian, and I was all like "BASTIAN IS GAY!!" and he was all "STFU WHORE!" and began to sing Chacaron. I woke up then. It was the klondike bar, I always have messed up dreams when I eat those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Mayhem Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 melatonin is a hormone your brain produces when it's dark (it's related to serotonin somehow, but I can't remember how - like it's the opposite of, or something. If that means anything at all to you, it means something to you... if you see what I mean) and it's sold primarily as a sleep inducer. It's like the double whammy - take the pills, sleep is induced, dreamstate is clearer. Ahh, then it's a placebo of sorts? When I started playing Psychonauts, it got me real interested in pyschology and psychiatry, and of course I learned of the placebo effect. Interesting, and currently being tested by moi in several dumb scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 My guess is that it probably is a placebo - if I have to get up early I always take a melatonin, nothing to do with dreaming but just so I get to sleep. The fact that I've swallowed a 'sleeping pill' no doubt helps. It does give a noticeably increased heart rate sometimes though, but usually only on 4mg plus doses. But, I wouldn't say it's just a placebo... it's not like swallowing a tic-tac and convincing yourself you just ate a lucid-dream pill. There's always a level of expectancy with these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Mayhem Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 And like Darth_Ave mentioned, some foods DO make your dreams funky...or make you sleep faster. Something warm like soup also seems to help, while cold things wake you up further. Even coffee. By having it every weekend since I was 4, I have become desencitized to caffeine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elTee Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Yeah, red wine always kind of knocks me out if I put the right music on. In one bout of stupidity I mixed a rather large amount of melatonin with similar (relative) quantities of alcohol. I don't remember any of the dreams but man, I slept well Actually, I've just given myself an idea... I can't do this because I don't have any money, but if anyone (I guess in Europe only) gets some Absinthe with a decent amount of thujone in it, then drinks a few glasses of it and mixes it with the melatonin/valerian/v-B6 combo I bet they'd have pretty much instantaneous lucidity. Especially if they went all out and used calea too... I say this because Absinthe is unique in terms of alcohol in that it contains thujone which, whilst not making you hallucinate, does in fact keep your brain working at a relatively sober level whilst treating the rest of your body to the usual effects of alcoholic over-indulgence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_Mayhem Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Wow, what a cocktail! Instant lucidity, that would be cool! I keep trying to have 'em, but it's a challenge if I don't do it right. I'll set the alarm clock, now to make sure it wakes me up! Well, it's gettin' late, and I'm gonna put those ideas to work. Nitey-nite people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 G'night, it's 12:30 AM here and I think I'll wait another hour before sleeping. Why? Because at Vocabuloria, we just do things that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCheez Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 It's 2 am and I ain't gonna sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smon Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 In Vocabuloria that statement is a declaration of WAR. To arms brothers! To arms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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