Diego Varen Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 What annoyed me in the Prequels were the Battle Droids. In Episode I, they were great enemies and looked intimedating, but in Episode II and a lot in Episode III, they became more comic relief and weaker. Personally, the Battle Droids in Episode I were the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSR Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Yes, but they ahd that teensy little problem of deactivating when the droid control ship got pooned. Which is why Super battle droids came in, which can act independantly. Therefore, the normal droids were reduced to be cannon fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace MacLeod Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 George Lucas screwed up the prequel trilogy by not delegating some of the workload to more capable people. His brilliance as a storyteller and movie producer far outshines his ability as a movie director, and this in turn is vastly superior to his total ineptitude as a screenwriter. Part of the reason why the original trilogy is so much better than the prequels (IMHO) was that when GL was just a newbie nobody making Star Wars he didn't have the clout to do everything exactly the way he wanted, and the actors were able to figure out better dialogue than the claptrap he'd written. Harrison Ford said it best while on the Star Wars set: "You can type this s**t George, but you can't speak it!" With the prequels however, absolutely everybody just said: "Yessir, right away sir, Mr. Lucas sir!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 would it have made a difference if Speilberg or someone was given the movies to shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 @ Macleod, it's not a coincidence that the best OT film wasn't directed by lucas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace MacLeod Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 @ Macleod, it's not a coincidence that the best OT film wasn't directed by lucas.Word. would it have made a difference if Speilberg or someone was given the movies to shoot?Not as big a difference as if he'd let someone else work on the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 George Lucas screwed up the prequel trilogy by not delegating some of the workload to more capable people. His brilliance as a storyteller and movie producer far outshines his ability as a movie director, and this in turn is vastly superior to his total ineptitude as a screenwriter. Part of the reason why the original trilogy is so much better than the prequels (IMHO) was that when GL was just a newbie nobody making Star Wars he didn't have the clout to do everything exactly the way he wanted, and the actors were able to figure out better dialogue than the claptrap he'd written. Harrison Ford said it best while on the Star Wars set: "You can type this s**t George, but you can't speak it!" With the prequels however, absolutely everybody just said: "Yessir, right away sir, Mr. Lucas sir!" I think that success goes to people's heads. Sometimes people can make so much money that how they get it becomes meaningless. I personally thought that Episodes I, II, and III should have been like this: Episode I - Ani' age 16ish Episode II - Ani' age 18/19ish Episode III - Ani' age 20/21ish I personally believe that Episode V was the best of all six. Episode III had the beginings of a great story, but it never truely capitalized on anything. They could have gone a lot darker and older. Ani' was way too young in Episode I and II, and I completely disconnected from the character. Luke was around 16/17 years old in 'A New Hope', and that is where I thought they would start Ani'. Once he went younger than that, I coudn't relate to his character in anyway. Episode III could have been stronger, darker, and successful if Lucas made Ani ' older in all insidents (sp?). Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace MacLeod Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Well, I'm not really sure if it's a matter of success having gone to his head rather than his success providing a never-ending supply of enough big honkin' dumpsters full of cash to make whatever flim he pleases. George Lucas is the creator and head of this vast entertainment empire, and nobody's going to question his vision, flawed though it may be. I mean, if you're Hayden Christensen and you have the chance to be Anakin Skywalker in what are obviously going to be two of the hugest, most spectacularly successful movies of the modern era, what are you going to say to George Lucas...? "No, I won't speak this crap."? I don't think so. What resigns the prequel movies to forever being second banana to the original trilogy is (IMHO) that George just isn't very good at getting vibrant performances out of his cast and giving them decent things to say, whatever his brilliance at storytelling and technical filmmaking might be. Look at poor, old Christopher Lee. Remember how sinister and genuinely scary he was just recently in LOTR as Saruman? Then watch Count Dooku. He just seems tired and constipated most of the time. Watch that scene where he confronts Yoda at the end of AotC...when he whips out his lightsaber and holds it in front of his face, he looks like somebody just shoved a turd under his nose. And the prequel writing was just...gaaaahhhhh. C3-P0: "Oh, I'm beside myself!" "This is such a drag!" Aaaaaackk...dumb. Obi-Wan after Anakin directs the fire in their transport in AotC: "Good call, my young padawan!" Yeah, I know I say things like that in the heat of battle all the time... Obi-Wan on bridge before fighting Dooku again: "My dear Chancellor, Sith Lords are our speciality!" No they bloody aren't! You've fought them twice and got your ass kicked once! You're 1-for-2! I'd say that battledroids seem a lot more your thing, dude... Anakin: "I will learn to stop people from dying!" George obviously hates contractions, so this line wound up making Anakin sound like Commander Data with PMS. I could go on...and on...and on...but I won't. This time at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerDawn Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 The relevancy of this question really depends on if you have convinced yourself the prequels are anything but pure hype movies. The content external of star wars was not great, the fact it was Star Wars is all that makes it watchable. So saying GL messed up, really would depend if this was really the best he could do. Maybe asking "Was GL the right person for the job?" is a better question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 The relevancy of this question really depends on if you have convinced yourself the prequels are anything but pure hype movies. The content external of star wars was not great, the fact it was Star Wars is all that makes it watchable. So saying GL messed up, really would depend if this was really the best he could do. Maybe asking "Was GL the right person for the job?" is a better question. Well, it also depends on the "job" I mean, most shortcomings of prequels(other than bad acting) would come from the dialogue scripts. Change them and many things would feel way cooler. It is funny why no one have done a fan dub for the whole thing with altered dialogues. And seriously, whassup with those love scenes. If GL act like that, I seriously wonder how he can get his wife save a really big stick and a duffel bag. PS: I would count JarJar as a non factor since he only shows up as an annoyance in TPM, and its a "special case" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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