*bAsTiLaJeEdAi* Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 Darth Vader!woooooooo How did Sidious come up with Vaders name? Did he just think-ooooo Vader that sounds cool and intimidating. and has anyone else noticed that if you put "in" in front of vader its Invader which is basically what he is? Sorry its just that this has been bugging me for ages, and I was looking forward to finding out in ROTS but all he says is "you will be known Darth Vader". any thoughts?
Jeff Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 Well I don't know the official reason for how Palpatine came up with it (if there is one) but I know in, I believe, Dutch, Vader means father. So that's how they got the name.
Great Scott! Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 The name probably means something, and Palpatine had about 23 years to think it up, so he probably chose well.
*bAsTiLaJeEdAi* Posted August 13, 2006 Author Posted August 13, 2006 Well I don't know the official reason for how Palpatine came up with it (if there is one) but I know in, I believe, Dutch, Vader means father. So that's how they got the name. Whoa thats quite interesting. hehe Darth Father. or Darth Dad!
Jeff Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 Well they got the name Darth because it sounded like dark. I remember George saying something about how in reality vader's name means 'Dark Father.'
Pho3nix Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 Yeah I think that's right, Vader does mean father.
Great Scott! Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 In German, father is "Vater," which is really close too (as has been pointed out before), but the Dutch name is the official reason.
coupes. Posted August 13, 2006 Posted August 13, 2006 All true, GL said so in a interview with Rolling Stone in 2005 I beleive.
Darth_Terros Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 Darth is a made up name just like Jedi or Sith. And here is wookieepedia has to say on the subject It is also worth noting that vader is the Dutch word for father (as well as an Old English variant for "father" cf. OED), and it may be tempting to read the character name Darth Vader as Dark Father, a word-play that may well be the root of the Sith title. However, judging by the origin of the other Sith names, Vader may also possibly be a derivative of the word invader. Furthermore, it is also worth noting that in the original scripts for A New Hope, the name Darth Vader was given to a normal Imperial general.
grrrrrrrrrr7 Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 That's what I've heard for a long time. I thought everybody knew that. i didnt
PoiuyWired Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 So, Darth Vader could be translated as "Black Daddy" ??
DarthMuffin Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 The wookiepedia bit is quite interesting. But I believe that the OP wanted to know how *Sidious*, not Lucas, found the name. It's been a while since I read the book, but there's something about "Sith spirits" whispering the name to Sidious. Or something similar.
MachineCult Posted August 16, 2006 Posted August 16, 2006 So, Darth Vader could be translated as "Black Daddy" ?? Only by someone like you.
St. Jimmy Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 O_o Wow. I never knew that stuff I just assumed GL used that name 'cause it sounded cool.
Negative Sun Posted August 17, 2006 Posted August 17, 2006 But I agree, the way Palpatine presents it in the movie is kinda stupid...In fact that entire scene is rediculous, Anakin is such a damn wimp...It kinda ruins the image I used to have of Vader
Samurai DD Posted August 18, 2006 Posted August 18, 2006 The wookiepedia bit is quite interesting. But I believe that the OP wanted to know how *Sidious*, not Lucas, found the name. It's been a while since I read the book, but there's something about "Sith spirits" whispering the name to Sidious. Or something similar. Yep, in fact, if you pay attention in the movie, Sidious doesn't just say "You'llbeDarthVader." He kind of says "You'll be Darth... Va... Der." In the space between syllables you can hear a really creepy sound, probably the Sith spirits telling him the name.
Great Scott! Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 But I agree, the way Palpatine presents it in the movie is kinda stupid...In fact that entire scene is rediculous, Anakin is such a damn wimp...It kinda ruins the image I used to have of VaderAre you ****ing kidding me? That was one of my favorite scenes in the whole saga! People sure are critical when watching the prequel trilogy, if it's not 100% perfect, they seem to get all mad at it...
obXI Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 Yep, in fact, if you pay attention in the movie, Sidious doesn't just say "You'llbeDarthVader." He kind of says "You'll be Darth... Va... Der." In the space between syllables you can hear a really creepy sound, probably the Sith spirits telling him the name. Yeah he did pause there, almost like he had other names racing through his head. "darth vapid...no nono...vapor...NO...vegas. Ah Wait! Vader!" From the moment Sidious exposed himself as a Sithlord to Anakin to the moment Anakin became Darth Vader was the BEST direction Lucas had done throughout the prequels. My god I thought it would never happen, some damn good drama...*appalauds*
MachineCult Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 I thought it was some sort of ancient Sith language and he was just thinking of something appropriate for Anakin.
grrrrrrrrrr7 Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 Here's what DARTH VADER really means: ..................It is also worth noting that vader is the Dutch word for father (as well as an Old English variant for "father" cf. OED), and it may be tempting to read the character name Darth Vader as Dark Father, a word-play that may well be the root of the Sith title. However, judging by the origin of the other Sith names, Vader may also possibly be a derivative of the word invader. Furthermore, it is also worth noting that in the original scripts for A New Hope, the name Darth Vader was given to a normal Imperial general............. End of dissucussion.
Darth_Terros Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 Here's what DARTH VADER really means: ..................It is also worth noting that vader is the Dutch word for father (as well as an Old English variant for "father" cf. OED), and it may be tempting to read the character name Darth Vader as Dark Father, a word-play that may well be the root of the Sith title. However, judging by the origin of the other Sith names, Vader may also possibly be a derivative of the word invader. Furthermore, it is also worth noting that in the original scripts for A New Hope, the name Darth Vader was given to a normal Imperial general............. End of dissucussion. Thanks for sharing something that was already posted ....
PoiuyWired Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 Well, we still did not solve why IN UNIVERSE he is called Vader. I don't suppose Sidious called Ani Vader cause "Hmmm... Vader means father, cause you make me think about my daddy" One suggestion would be Vader as in "invader" like Sidious as in "insidious" but obviously you don't add in- in frount of all Darth- sith names. Think about inbane, inkrayt, inmalek or inbinks. They all sound stupid.
Samurai DD Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 But the solution for the "in universe" reason is what Darth54 and me already posted! Sith spirits chose the name, and told Sidious through the Force.
DarthMuffin Posted August 19, 2006 Posted August 19, 2006 Well, people like to discuss stuff over and over again even if the topic question is already answered
JediLandon Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 The name probably means something, and Palpatine had about 23 years to think it up, so he probably chose well. ya he probably had some time to think of that name beside all the sith names start with darth all that he had to come up with was vader
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