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Redhawke, I actually seen many people buy into the KOTOR series and become great fans of it because they believe it to be a real-time action RPG. No matter how much I tried to tell them it's not really an action RPG, they...well...think it's an action RPG, and love it. So, I let it be.

Well since I have some expirience in this area, I feel it is only prudent to educate them. ;)

 

Precisely. And yes, I have played d20 Star Wars. I hate d20. The Star Wars variant is one of the better systems, though it still enforces the aspects of d20 that I dislike the most - fixed classes and experience levels.

Jediphile, hold on to your hat... I wholeheartedly agree! :D

 

I hate D20 as well. I would have preferred that the WEG D6 Star Wars System was used, but GURPS would also be do-able in a pinch. ;)

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It would be nice to have it be the best of both KotOR's.

 

A dynamic, grab you by the pants story and sweet character development from KotOR mixed with an higher level in playability and weapons, equipment and clothing upgrades as in TSL, sprinkle in a higher level of graphics (especially with shadows and movement) and you'd quite possible have a runner for game of the year again.

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I think K3 should be more like Ninja Gaiden. I'm not saying it should be an action game, I just think the KOTOR series needs more ninjas (more than zero). The Star Wars mythos* is really lacking in Ninjas, thus in K3 there should be Jedi Ninja class. And no, I don't know if I'm being serious.

 

*I'm not really sure if "Mythos" is a word. If it is it means: "A (fictional) history relevant to a particular character, group, or world. For example, in the current Wonder Woman mythos, several Greek goddesses are responsible for the creation of the Amazons."

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I think K3 should be more like Ninja Gaiden. I'm not saying it should be an action game, I just think the KOTOR series needs more ninjas (more than zero). The Star Wars mythos* is really lacking in Ninjas, thus in K3 there should be Jedi Ninja class. And no, I don't know if I'm being serious.

 

I'm sorry to say, but I think this has already been done...with the addition of Sith Assaisans into canon. Sorry. ;)

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Man, it is nice to see that this thread got hijacked. Does nobody here appreciate good discussion? It was meant for people to voice thier own opinion and instead everyone just bashes each other. The first post had to be the smart ass comment that KOTOR 3 should be like 1&2. This thread isn't suggesting that, it is suggesting that the developers take aspects of other games that will improve the experience, not completely change it.

GG team.

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I think the gameplay on Kotor is fine as it is, but it could use some more combat variety.

 

and yeah, Ninja's ARE awesome aren't they? :)

But I didn't really like Ninja gaiden, not stealthy enough. I really like'd Tenchu return from darkness though.

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Does nobody here appreciate good discussion?
This thread...is suggesting that the developers take aspects of other games that will improve the experience, not completely change it.
Guess there's no more need for discussion.

 

Seriously. Discussion is discussion, even if it's the opinion that KotOR3 should be just like 1&2. Don't tell people their opinions are wrong just because yours differ. You're effectively trying to cease discussion on this topic, not bolster "good dicussion" by telling people to keep quiet if they don't agree with you :/. Suggesting that KotOR 3 not use aspects of other games is a completely valid addition to this discussion.

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Man, it is nice to see that this thread got hijacked. Does nobody here appreciate good discussion? It was meant for people to voice thier own opinion and instead everyone just bashes each other. The first post had to be the smart ass comment that KOTOR 3 should be like 1&2. This thread isn't suggesting that, it is suggesting that the developers take aspects of other games that will improve the experience, not completely change it.

GG team.

I would say something about this post Mister Chief but Inyri said it far better than I would...

 

Seriously. Discussion is discussion, even if it's the opinion that KotOR3 should be just like 1&2. Don't tell people their opinions are wrong just because yours differ. You're effectively trying to cease discussion on this topic, not bolster "good dicussion" by telling people to keep quiet if they don't agree with you :/. Suggesting that KotOR 3 not use aspects of other games is a completely valid addition to this discussion.

Words of wisdom Mister Chief, words of wisdom.

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Yes, of course the discussion should include the fact that no extra additions be made.

 

The only problem is that half of the thread is people bashing the idea of changes without truly adding anything substantial to the discussion. It is just a back and forth of this is bad, no its good, no its bad, no it is good.

 

I suppose that the majority of the opinion could be that we should leave the game as it is with no changes from other games, but that is not what the thread was about.

 

It is like somone going into a topic about how to bake cookies and then just complaining to everyone that they don't like cookies.

 

I suppose I am just disappointed that nobody really had any creative ideas outside of making the game an action game, and then those who don't like that just complianing about it.

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I wouldn't mind if the combatsystem was realtime, like in Jedi Knight 2, but with more tactics uses for each individual NPC.

 

Also, one thing I love about Oblivion, is that you can overhear people talking, and learn new quests that way.

 

Dialogue flexibility! = Answering options according to who your character is, how is his/her alignment, what skills etc... (Kinda like Fallout and Fallout 2 (Two games I also miss!))

 

But the most important thing, if KOTOR3 ever see the light of day, is that HK47 becomes a very important character, with loads of dialogue possibilities.

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Yes, of course the discussion should include the fact that no extra additions be made.

 

The only problem is that half of the thread is people bashing the idea of changes without truly adding anything substantial to the discussion. It is just a back and forth of this is bad, no its good, no its bad, no it is good.

 

I suppose that the majority of the opinion could be that we should leave the game as it is with no changes from other games, but that is not what the thread was about.

 

It is like somone going into a topic about how to bake cookies and then just complaining to everyone that they don't like cookies.

 

I suppose I am just disappointed that nobody really had any creative ideas outside of making the game an action game, and then those who don't like that just complianing about it.

You made a thread about what kind of changes do people want to see in KotOR III, and some people (including me) replied that they didn't want any big changes. It's all part of the discussion and everyone on this forum is allowed to post in it.

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In terms of story it should be merged elaments of both games unexpained story lines culbamating in a final team up with the teams form both games

eg: carth, bastila, Raven, Mission, Zalbar, and Jollie

the second : The Exile, Atton, Handmaden, Bao -dur, Viass Marr

And the bridge between the two games should be, Candrous/Mandalore,

T3-M4 and HK-47

 

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Also I'd love to find out that Raven and Bastila are the ansestors Ankin Skywalker

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You made a thread about what kind of changes do people want to see in KotOR III, and some people (including me) replied that they didn't want any big changes. It's all part of the discussion and everyone on this forum is allowed to post in it.

 

I of course realize this, but the game will change in some way, regardless. Are you saying you would not like any interface upgrades, improved graphics, or extra customization? You are the kind of consumer I would love to sell a product to. I never said that you couldn't post that you didn't want major changes, but it does detract from the main point of the thread when everyone bashes ideas and says that they want no changes whatsoever.

 

This thread isn't just for major changes either. Certainly there will be some minor changes and this thread is for discussion about any changes that somone would wan't, specifically improvements that can be traced back to other games. So please, if anyone is still willing to post on topic, do so.

 

Some other things that would be neat to see in a new game.

 

Face scanning- (use of the 360 camera to scan your own face onto your character) RAinbow 6 Vegas

 

Dynamic dialogue options- Mass Effect

 

Easier command of party-

 

More in depth feat and skill progression-

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