newsfeed: Daniel Erickson Clears Up Darth Revan Backstory

[adamqd]

vague plot points ripped from TSL like "True Sith".

 

 

 

Were the True Sith Not mentioned in the Loading Screens of KotOR I? I'm Probably mistaken though.

[Tommycat]

Were the True Sith Not mentioned in the Loading Screens of KotOR I? I'm Probably mistaken though.

 

Oooo there you went and did it... Yer gonna get nerd raged on by Zerimar Nyliram.

 

But you are right in that the true sith were mentioned in the load screens.

[True_Avery]

@TA: Well they DID mention Revan's return to the Unknown regions to fight the True Sith. Adding in another piece of TSL. His return to the unknown regions was not part of KotOR. That was specifically from TSL.

 

Perhaps the reason Revan returned alone was because the Emperor used the friend to turn the other.

 

Maybe everything was going well until Exile showed up to help Revan...

It'd be interesting, but again the only thing from TSL that seems to be mentioned is the True Sith. Have we had any mention of the Telos project? Any mention of the complete annihilation of all life on a few planets? Any mention of a second smaller Sith Fleet attacking Telos? The Jedi order being utterly destroyed instead of just crippled by Malak, as it seems to infer?

 

To be fair, though, the second wave of Mandolorians could probably be partly blamed on Exile but that'd be a stretch. To me it just seems they are taking the True Sith idea and leaving everything else in the dust. I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to run away from the whole Force Wound storyline as fast as possible.

 

Were the True Sith Not mentioned in the Loading Screens of KotOR I? I'm Probably mistaken though.

Hm, were they? I think I recall some older Sith history being explained, but I think that mention was of the actual Sith species which by now is extinct. The "True" Sith mentioned in TSL seem to be more of a separate civilization using the name Sith, but the actually "True Sith" name comes from Kreia's description of them so I'm fairly certain the idea is meant to infer what Kreia was speaking of, and not of the actual species which was what the load screens infer.

[Hallucination]

In the thread in the SWK section there was a post (I think it was by Shem) that had a picture of a conversation with Canderous where he mentions that the Mandalorians were convinced to attack the Republic (as in the Mandalorian Wars, not their schoolyard gang routine seen in-game) by the Sith, which kind of hints towards the True Sith being a part of Bioware's plans.

 

Before you ask, I remember going through that conversation myself, and the post with that picture seems to have been pruned.

[True_Avery]

In the thread in the SWK section there was a post (I think it was by Shem) that had a picture of a conversation with Canderous where he mentions that the Mandalorians were convinced to attack the Republic (as in the Mandalorian Wars, not their schoolyard gang routine seen in-game) by the Sith, which kind of hints towards the True Sith being a part of Bioware's plans.

 

Before you ask, I remember going through that conversation myself, and the post with that picture seems to have been pruned.

Ah, I do recall that conversation now. I was sort of under the impression that Avellone and Obsidian took the like, 2-3 references to a more powerful Sith group and rolled with it.

 

I do not remember if that conversation was in the first or second game though, because I do vividly remember Canderous talking about the Sith in the second game quite a bit but do recall Canderous talking about the Sith only a little if you were really into his story in the first.

[Sir Vougalot]

Were the True Sith Not mentioned in the Loading Screens of KotOR I? I'm Probably mistaken though.

 

Oooo there you went and did it... Yer gonna get nerd raged on by Zerimar Nyliram.

 

But you are right in that the true sith were mentioned in the load screens.

 

Grrrrr! Yes, that is indeed a very old an annoying topic.

[Feagildin]

Here's my take on this.

 

* Revan and Malak went into deep space and met the Sith Emperor. They were turned and sent back to prepare the way for the return of the true Sith.

 

Revan and Malak fell to the darkside during the Mandalorian Wars, but they still considered themselves Jedi. Dark Jedi if you will. They caught the scent of something powerful in deep space and pursued it. They meet the emperor on peaceful terms and he turns them. Not from the light to the dark, but from the Jedi to the Sith.

 

 

* Being Sith and away from the Emperor’s direct influence neither Revan nor Malak followed orders exactly as they were supposed to. Then, of course, Malak betrayed Revan.

 

Sith are notorious for being rebellious, angsty, and power-hungry. While the Emperor's away, the children will play. Get me? In other words, no mind control here folks. Just a simple matter of reaching into the cookie jar while the "law" has it back turned.

 

 

* The Jedi took in Revan and returned him to the light, though as it was not a natural turn for him when he went dark, there was much they couldn’t undo and they decided to remove his memories and hopefully his taint with it. Yes, Revan’s return to the light (and his gender as male) are canon.

 

This one I'm hoping is just mis-worded. And to those whom it may concern: since when has the dark side not left a taint?

I like the LS story for KotOR. Also, I've always liked female Revan, but hey, we can't always get what we want.

 

 

* Later Revan returned to deep space to confront what he knew was out there but how much he actually remembered and how clearly he remembered it is still a mystery, as are the events that followed. What we do know is that it took hundreds of years for the Sith to re-emerge as originally planned.

 

IMHO, Revan began 'remembering' his true personality, as well as things that had happened to him before the droid council, I mean, the Jedi Council, wiped his memory and reprogrammed him. From there, he began to realize what going to war had truly cost him: it twisted him into a being who was enslaved by the dark side of the force. He saw clearly for the first time the events that shaped him into the Dark Lord - without the shroud of the dark side clouding his vision. And when he saw, he could not stand idle. So, instead, he gave assignments to his companions, and left for the unknown regions, to do whatever he could to undermine the Sith Emperor and his invasion of the Republic.

[DAWUSS]

I think they're hinting at the possibility that Revan's on his way to being the next Mandalore the Fraud (the one in the Geonosian gladiator ring - awesome until they ruined him by making him a sockpuppet).

 

From how I was understanding it, the Mandalorians are goaded into invading the Republic by the True Sith, Revan and friends fight them back (during which he realizes some of the problems of the Republic), Revan and Malak head to unknown regions, see True Sith empire and realize what they're all about, do some housekeeping with the Republic with the help of the Star Forge, Malak jumps Revan, Revan gets captured, Revan defeats Malak, Revan returns to the Unknown Regions, and incites a civil war that delays an invasion for 300 years.

 

Now, I'm not so sure...

[DAWUSS]

Being rebellious, angsty, and power-hungry. While the Emperor's away, the children will play. Get me? In other words, no mind control here folks. Just a simple matter of reaching into the cookie jar while the "law" has it back turned.

 

You're also forgetting the Star Forge. Revan knew what the Star Forge was a lot better than Malak. Malak was going to use that to build and fuel a second "Infinite Empire" while Revan was using it just to achieve an end of reorganizing the Republic.

[Feagildin]

No, I left the SF out of my post on purpose. Like Vader said about the Death Star: "Don't be too proud of this technological terra you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force." I understand that the SF was a 'being' of the dark side, but it is still insignificant compared to, in some cases, even a single force user, be it a Sith, a Jedi, or an ambitious Galactic Senator.