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Det. Bart Lasiter

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Kinda like Star Wars. Not the first nor best Sci-fi but marketed very well.

 

You makin waves in the wrong ocean, boy. :xp:

 

This is true though, most movies and music sell because they're essentially packaged in a shiny little box. There are exceptions, but they're more exceptions that prove the rule in that they compete simply on their ability to mimic the shallow, well-developed chart toppers looks. District 9 would never have been as highly recognized as it was had it not been for those graphics, because in actuality most people care very little for the depth of the material. The same thing happens to music, so you have artists picking up pop elements to cover up meaningful lyrics or creative ideas in genre-bending. Though the most exposed are the ones sticking to very specific formulas. Rappers are essentially doing the same thing NWA did in the 90's without any of the originality and rockers are so peddled up and full of post-production nasal-voice that they can easily be played over eachother and no distinction could be made by general listening.

 

The market is based on saturation, it's sad and pathetic, but in a world run by the idea of not taking risks it's what we get stuck with.

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Rappers are essentially doing the same thing NWA did in the 90's without any of the originality and rockers are so peddled up and full of post-production nasal-voice that they can easily be played over eachother and no distinction could be made by general listening.

 

The market is based on saturation, it's sad and pathetic, but in a world run by the idea of not taking risks it's what we get stuck with.

 

I'm sure this will sound like garbage w/ somebody with a 50 avatar...but even someone as commercialized as 50 has offered the music marketplace with something that isn't recycled. I mean, his later albums were recycled from his OWN material but idk, the only thing I find to be similar for rappers these days is in the beats over the material.

 

However, you do have something with lack of distinction as you can see with the "featuring" (specifically lil wayne and akon).

 

I think these days you're right, people go for what you can see on MTV (chris brown, kanye, etc.) but purists will be able to find music that is above the generic level that we hear so much today.

 

anyway, lol, idk what I'm trying to say other than there are still some highly commericalized bands (like 50, or even Coldplay) that deliver high-quality music on a regular basis...

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De La Soul. A Tribe Called Quest.

 

I learned to be interested in rap again with these two. Shamed as I am to say it, NWA was too hard for my little white ass back then, and I was confused since I thought rap was always done with Aerosmith.

 

De La in particular managed to be fresh, current, provocative, especially in my favorite album, Stakes is High. Talking about real things, and revealing dirt and calling it dirt. Fearless. Unfortunately, their influence on hip-hop went out shortly after the Thug movement took over. I am not black, not in the culture, and so g-rap never made any sense to me, although I did hang with Dre and Snoop and mad blun*z a generous amount ;)

 

As for other musical influences, Danny Elfman is up there, but only with his band backing him. BOINGO FTW!!!

 

Prince influenced me greatly.... and so did Led Zepellin (not sure how they escaped Bart's indignation)

 

As for influence on music in general, I have no clue. Not a music historian. Not really a listener anymore.... talk radio.

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A thread like this will always be a matter of opinion and never fact, because this is a clear case of one persons trash is another persons treasure.

 

 

Wether or not the Beatles were copy cats of bands we will never hear of is one thing. They did however impact music as a whole forever when they came to the United States. I am not too big of a fan of the Beatles myself, I do however appreciate the Sgt. Peppers record that they released... made for one hell of a movie hehe.

 

I am a big Green Day fan. Sure their musical style may not be the most original, but its the message they put into their music that I can appreciate.

 

Like others have said, the music that gets put out on top 40 radio is and will always be flavor of the month music. And when bands see that this is what is selling records, of course they are gonna try to impliment that into their music.

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