Rinku Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 We don't yet know whether their role in this particular episode is important or not, so it's a little unfair to make that criticism. And including them shows that they aren't forgotten, and that the show's producers at least are fans of RC. Exactly. QFT...I am surprised with amount of people who suffer from being in "the prison of consistency." And I thought this news would get people excited around here on rc.net... I was expecting the same thing...I'm excited and seeing as the animation of the series has improved through time (imo) I really want to see the models for Delta squad. This is mainly because I have liked the models for the clone troopers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Snake Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 well, at least we have the books to see they. (or better, imagining they) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfTheFish Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 This is good new. Republic Commandos play such a hidden role (by being spec ops they naturally would) in the clone wars that it seems most people have forgotten about them, due to the ancient release date of the game. Question though. Why are you guys not excited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trench Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Care to explain? We believe Grievous is planning a Separatist attack on Kamino ***If it's Grievous, then adding the separatist part makes it a bit redundant, eh?*** Numerous ways where the Clone Troopers handle their blasters in a careless manner that any soldier would be made to run laps for. The dialogue is disappoint. The plot is disappoint. Making the Mandos pacifists is disappoint. Ahsoka and Anakin's attitudes are disappoint. Most of Lucas' work after the OT is disappoint. TCW is no different, and I find that to be a great disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexrd Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 Numerous ways where the Clone Troopers handle their blasters in a careless manner that any soldier would be made to run laps for. I think we see that in AotC. But I don't find that in TCW... The dialogue is disappoint. Dialogue was never a strong point in Star Wars. Ever since the OT. The plot is disappoint. The plot is the same from the micro-series. It's the Clone Wars. Making the Mandos pacifists is disappoint. In the very episode, it is said that the pacifist way was very recent, and it was chose by the people who had nothing to gain with the various clan wars. Also, the Death Watch in the episodes critisize the whole pacifist ideal. Ahsoka and Anakin's attitudes are disappoint. I have to agree. However, the series is not always around those two, and they have improved their behaviour as the series goes on. Nothing comparable to the movie. Most of Lucas' work after the OT is disappoint. TCW is no different, and I find that to be a great disappoint. Well, if someone goes watching the series (or anything) with that in mind, I'm not surprised. EDIT: For the Grievous/separatist commentary, no need to nitpick. Someone can do the same about the movies. But if it's in the movies there's no problem, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trench Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 EDIT: For the Grievous/separatist commentary, no need to nitpick. Someone can do the same about the movies. But if it's in the movies there's no problem, right? I would, but I'm not here to nitpick about the movies. If there was a thread for it, I would. But I'm here to voice my distaste for the way this series has devoured established canon and spewed it up in a steaming heap. I don't like it when well-written storyline is overwritten by swill such as TCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexrd Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 But I'm here to voice my distaste for the way this series has devoured established canon and spewed it up in a steaming heap. I don't like it when well-written storyline is overwritten by swill such as TCW. But how has it "devoured established canon and spewed it up in a steaming heap"? I've already explained they made it so that it explain how that change happens but you seem to ignore. If it was for the Ryloth cycle or Mandalore surface, I would understand (although it's not a problem to me). And I laughed at that "well-written storyline". But let's move along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dimal Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 The people on the Brothers All forums are probably having a field day with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyGoalie35 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 ^agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Terrible plot, horrible ascetics, over-patronization, Jedi, yeah, I'd call that ruining RC. I'll bet they totally change Delta's personality. Melodrama, much? Nothing this show will do with Delta Squad can possibly be as sickening as what Traviss did in her books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexrd Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 Melodrama, much? Nothing this show will do with Delta Squad can possibly be as sickening as what Traviss did in her books. You mean the stuff where the Jedi are to blame for every evil in the GFFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dimal Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Well KOTOR: The Sith Lords has shown us that the Jedi really are to blame for a lot of evil that's happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Well KOTOR: The Sith Lords has shown us that the Jedi really are to blame for a lot of evil that's happened. I'm not sure how something that happened 4,000 years before this happens equates to all Jedi past and present being responsible 'a lot of evil that's happened'. But, considering this is likely an echo of Traviss' blatant hatred of Jedi (even going so far as to make her own Jedi weak, self-loathing creatures) dressed up as fact in her work, then I can forgive you for thinking that. Sure, the Jedi aren't without faults, but it's laughable, sickening and just plain wrong to turn them into demonic slavers and kidnappers, and to reinforce that viewpoint at every turn in her books, without even offering a counterpoint to that view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-3556 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 @TKA-001 Karen Traviss did amazing RC books, some of the best books ive ever read, in fact, the game had a weaker plot than her books. On another note I hope TCW dont mess this up like they did with Mandalore. And what about Jusik or Etain huh? They were great jedi, and Traviss portrayed that. The Jedi Order then was a lot less agreeable for Jedi like Jusik and Etain than the New Jedi Order set up by Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dimal Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Look at it this way, in TCW they focus all the attention on the Jedi, but in the RC books they focus all the attention on the Mandalorains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-3556 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 True, thats why I love TCW episodes like Rookies, because clones are awesome, daring and brave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dimal Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I've looked on the Brothers All forums and I've found that they're taking this a lot better than you guys are, they're actually hoping for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyGoalie35 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 hey you're in this with us remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 ^haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dimal Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I've seen the Season III trailers on Youtube and I can see that they have vastly improved TCW since Season I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexrd Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 This is the last 3min long trailer that came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Karen Traviss did amazing RC books, some of the best books ive ever read, in fact, the game had a weaker plot than her books. I dare say that your standards for writing quality are sorely in need of development. And while the video game's story wasn't exactly deep or complex, it was still better than hers, consisting of a standard, basic story for an FPS, with all four of the main characters perfectly interesting and likable without all her shoehorned Mandalorian culture and rape of previously established canon. And what about Jusik or Etain huh? They were great jedi, and Traviss portrayed that. The Jedi Order then was a lot less agreeable for Jedi like Jusik and Etain than the New Jedi Order set up by Luke. Etain and Jusik are portrayed as "great Jedi" by Traviss because she has both of them reject the Jedi ways in favor of "superior" Mandalorian training, methods, and "morals". Meanwhile, virtually every single other Jedi in the canon gets smugly lectured at or about on how amoral and hypocritical every single one of them are in contrast to the Mandalorians. And don't even get me started on the idiocy regarding Etain's fate in the Order 66 novel. Also, unless you're fortunate enough to have not read her books in the Legacy of the Force series, then you should already know that Traviss and her Mandalorian mouthpiece characters despise the New Jedi Order as much as the old, for the same ludicrous manufactured reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dimal Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 In Star Wars I like to look at things from the point of view of both sides instead of just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyGoalie35 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 i think the darth maul looking guy is corny though....why re-use the concept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Dimal Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 ^Why else? They're LA, they do things like that to make money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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