jayman52 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I honestly think we should. I have done everything in my power to prevent this horrible garbage from passing. I have written my congressman and I have also called each of his three offices and left messages for him to vote against this piece of garbage. I don't know if it will help but I pray that it will. Honestly, if this legislation goes through I will be very tempted to quit my job. I have always thought that no matter what the United States of America would at the very least protect free speech and the freedom of expression. I am now terrified that the U.S. is nothing more than a Nazi police state. If you don't know what SOPA is then I have a link for you. http://www.g4tv.com/videos/56282/the-fight-against-the-sopa-bill/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Don't like the idea of the website not being allowed to defend itself or an appeals process. That said, I don’t like the idea of people coming into my house and stealing from me, so I do support removing copyrighted material at the owners request. However, it should have to be proven in a court of law and not by one judge hearing only one side of the argument. It should also be proven that the website owner (or owners agents) did knowingly allow the copyrighted material to be distributed by that site. Otherwise the judge should only be allowed to remove the copyrighted material and nothing more. Not worried about this yet, this Congress can’t agree that water is wet, so I don’t expect them to pass this as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayman52 Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 Honestly, I am afraid because it seems like there are so many politicians being bribed by Hollywood and the MAFIAA that it seems like it is destined to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I have little doubt that something will pass, just don't see it passing in its present form. It hasn't even been to committee yet. It will be written and rewritten twenty times before it even gets to a vote with more special interest than merely Hollywood getting their say. Then even if it passes in the House or Senate, it then has to be rewritten and approved so that both bills match. Even then it isn’t done until the President signs it into law. Remember it will soon be an election year, so passing anything right now is difficult at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 No offence but your congressman is more likely to listen to what the people filling his pockets want him to vote rather than his constituents. Too cynical? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trench Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I'm sure we all know how the good folks of Capitol Hill make decisions. Show spoiler (hidden content - requires Javascript to show) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Don't let this pass, yankees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayman52 Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 I don't know if they are voting on it right now, but I would love to be in the room with them. I believe it is 9am over there and I'm sure if they haven't started they are about to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 No, they are not going to vote now. They are having hearings on it. It takes a little time to go from bill to law. Perhaps too young to remember Schoolhouse Rock? (This BBCode requires its accompanying plugin to work properly.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathScepter Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I am against Piracy but there are such things as overkill. So I do hope they don't pass it. We don't need more laws, Better enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 It'll happen sooner or later, technology will provide totalitarianism in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I am against Piracy but there are such things as overkill. So I do hope they don't pass it. We don't need more laws, Better enforcement. You know I agree with you on this for most things, but it does seem we need to update our laws from time to time to support technological advances. I really don’t want to see law enforcement using antiquated laws from the physical world in the cyber world. Some would still apply, but others make no sense there. I would also like to see them include a privacy act for the internet. So companies like Origin or Steam do not have the right to access my entire computer. If I buy a TV from Sony, it does not give them the right to inventory my entire house, why does EA have that right to inventory my entire computer because I bought a game they published? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trench Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 You know I agree with you on this for most things, but it does seem we need to update our laws from time to time to support technological advances. I really don’t want to see law enforcement using antiquated laws from the physical world in the cyber world. Some would still apply, but others make no sense there. I would also like to see them include a privacy act for the internet. So companies like Origin or Steam do not have the right to access my entire computer. If I buy a TV from Sony, it does not give them the right to inventory my entire house, why does EA have that right to inventory my entire computer because I bought a game they published? Amen to that. And while we're at it, how about putting some kind of a leash on Google? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Don't let this pass, yankees. +1 I don't think we've figured out how to infect the internet with United States government control just yet. Being a yankee myself, naturally somewhat unconcerned but basing that on history and present knowhow. Things could change, as they often do. But I would also just as soon join an off-grid society over watching totalitarianism take over the states. Individuals can only do so much to stop this without communities and societies within a governing structure and where I live there isn't much of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathScepter Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 No to Big Government, Yes to smaller government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorge Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I voted yes since online it said its maybe the " end of the internet " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Yeah and there are never over exaggerations on the internet or in politics for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 @OP: We should not be afraid, rather confront the arse-clowns. I love the loaded-gun argument from supporters that if you're on about privacy that you necessarily have something bad to hide. Guess that dignity never really occurred to these people. One quickly is reminded of "the truman show" movie, with Jim Carey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 In my opinion we're building off the same broken system of policies too much. While the foundation of the united states is a reasonable set of guidelines to describe personal rights and liberties I feel as though the initiatives of our current government are practically a self-contained organism of unrest that does very little, while the people are a device for making progressive noise and antagonism. A bill that attempts to pass restrictions onto the internet does not make sense because this domain is almost exclusively governed by currency and free speech laws, with loopholes or red tape in access and equipment or maintenance services. I love the loaded-gun argument from supporters that if you're on about privacy that you necessarily have something bad to hide. Guess that dignity never really occurred to these people. +1 I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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