Guest Boba Rhett Posted July 28, 2001 Share Posted July 28, 2001 An entertaining movie. I enjoyed it right to the end, well at least up until the last 30 seconds. There I was thinking this was a cool movie and then I see the last thirty seconds and am completely confused. It's pretty amazing when something that happens in the last minute messes up the rest of the movie. I mean, it's alright to leave a little hole at the end of a movie for it to lead into a sequal but this movie left a hole big enough for someone to drive a riding lawn mower through. So if they don't make a sequal, this movie is ruined at the end. If the do make one, however, the movie will be great and will eventually make perfect sence buti'll still feel that I had to wait 2 years andpay for another ticket just to see the ending of this movie. Dispite it messed up ending, it a good moive and I suggest you check it out and see what you think about the ending. Rating: If sequal = 8.5, if no sequal = 7.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted July 28, 2001 Share Posted July 28, 2001 write me spoiler topic or do a spoiler in this thread but change the text colour to that of the message background, like they do at tfn, so u have to select it to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted July 28, 2001 Share Posted July 28, 2001 I havent seen the movie yet, i suppose i'll have to sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calendar Posted July 29, 2001 Share Posted July 29, 2001 I saw it today... it was ok. There is definetly going to be a sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted July 29, 2001 Share Posted July 29, 2001 It sucked... the original ruled because of the historical, social and political reference... This one didn't have any significance at all... Just like the original Star wars rocked and Episode I sucked... Episode I has no political or social significance... Star Wars did... If you don't know what I mean... read a history book or two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted July 29, 2001 Share Posted July 29, 2001 Is it worth going to see then?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted July 29, 2001 Share Posted July 29, 2001 No... exept if you're into costume design and/or make up design... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted July 29, 2001 Share Posted July 29, 2001 what if you an NRA/Charlton Heston fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted July 29, 2001 Share Posted July 29, 2001 I never liked the original anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOneCanoli Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 The movie was good. I didn't understand the last 30 seconds or so at all. I think it was good for a remake, and I recommend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 If you're an NRA/Heston fan you're lost... imho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KordKelly Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 Originally posted by Roger: [QB]It sucked... the original ruled because of the historical, social and political reference... This one didn't have any significance at all... [QB] You obviously didn't see the same movie I did... **POSSIBLE SPOILER** . . . . . . . . The whole movie was full of Gun Control and Animal Rights stuff!! And I liked it...It wasn't the original...but Tim Burton did a great storytelling job, and the ending, while not as shocking as the original,fit well and left open the possibility of sequel(s) [ July 30, 2001: Message edited by: KordKelly ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOneCanoli Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 SPOILER . . . . . .. . . . .. . . . . . Still don't understand how civilization 300 years ago could be more advanced than 300 years into the future. I.E. At the end-cop cars and guns... that was about 2100's, and then beginning part of the movie was 2400's. . . . . . . . . . .. end [ July 30, 2001: Message edited by: OnlyOneCanoli ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 Time travelling can go into the future and the past plus there is also something called parallel universes... I did see the movie and I didn't like it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 I'm not one for time travel. It just can't be done. So I won't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted July 30, 2001 Share Posted July 30, 2001 It can be done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kurgan Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 Yeah, I remember reading some science articles on it (wish I could remember where, so I could post 'em) saying that yes, Time Travel was possible. I believe Einstein thought we could do it, and most of us have heard of wormholes. Basically, you could setup a wormhole and then in the future, travel back to the wormhole you created. So the catch would be that you could only travel back to the place where that particular wormhole was built. So you couldn't go back in time to 1950, unless there was a wormhole there. But there's debate as to whether you'd actually be in the same universe, and if paradox's would apply, etc. Kurgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 What I meant was that it can technically be done. You just can't change anything. Look at it from a futuristic perspective. You've already gone back in time. Everything is the same. You must have failed to change anything. The divergent realities theory may make it seem that it is possible to change the past, but as a parralel universe is created for every single choice we have, you don't chage anything. You just move to a different universe. I remember an article about faster than light travel via wormholes. You'd also have to be at your endpoint in order to actually get there...kind of pointless. Einstein thought that if we could go faster than light, we would go backwards in time. Unfortunately, that is impossible. As we approach lightspeed, mass is added to the ship to the point where it balloons to infinity. It is therefore more likely that the ship would become a blackhole rather than time travel. We will never go faster than light according to today's physics. It is possible to warp space however(hence WARP drive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 Ha ha ha ha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 Ok let me explain my reaction... If I were to go back in time and change something, it wouldn't look as a change to you... it would be your present/past time and you wouldn't notice anything changed... The only person who would know anything has changed would be me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 The way you just explained it. No one would realize a change. No one would feel a need for a change. You(the you in the time you originally cam from), wouldn't realize it either. The only way you ensure that the change is fullfilled would be to stay in the time you made the change in. Then you would have to force yourself(in the original timeframe) to go back again, carefully explaining to him exactly what to do, and that the reson he is going back doesn't exist anymore. Either that or you go back in time. Make a change. Wait till your original time-travel date arrives and do it all over again. Either way you are going to end up forever repeating your actions, a slave to your past/present/future decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardz Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 Well when you put it like that! wardz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 Ok...It's possible. It would just suck. Besides, eventually you'll die. Then everything would revert back to the way it was before the time-travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 You see the me who is traveling in time as someone else as the one that is now... It is one and the same person! Only if I return to the now and that would be a point in time before I traveled back in time I would "see" myself... If I return to now after I traveled back in time I would return with full knowledge of what I changed in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted July 31, 2001 Share Posted July 31, 2001 Vut the original you wouldn't. Meaning he is extremely unlikely to risk time-travel over something that doesn't appear to actually matter. Let me diagram. _Altered reality_ >no problem>>>no need to go back in time, ^original"normal reality" restored ^<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _Normal reality________________^ Problem>>>You go back in time>>^ Paradox! You'd be stuck. [ July 30, 2001: Message edited by: matt-windu ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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