Havoc Stryphe Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 Originally posted by silenthunter But i was not alsways a ship, some of them included riding on turtles or escaping to mountain tops That being said, It may not point to Noah specifically, but it still does gives creedance to the Great Flood happening. Thank you for correcting me Silenthunter, I was right about the flood part though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenthunter Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 Yes, you were completely right, I was just adding to your point EDIT: Hehe, take a look at my post count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc Stryphe Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 Originally posted by silenthunter Yes, you were completely right, I was just adding to your point EDIT: Hehe, take a look at my post count. Nice, quite heavenly I might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 statement posted by paragon leon: As for evolution: the 'proof' people claim to have about us descending from animals comes down to "We look an awful lot like them". oh ok buddy, i guess we see how much you learned from your biology course. this is exactly my point. i believe people who dont believe in evolution is either because they're in a regeants (a very elementary and in my opinion, dumb) biology class or their school doesnt teach evolution because the leaders of their communities are billy-bobs with southern accents. for those of you who think i'm bigoted, NO. i've seen the bible, torah, quran, and baghavagita. and i've studied biology and read the most important excerpts from darwin's origin of species. i've seen the mayors and representatives of north carolina, arkansas, and mississippi. those officials have the iq of an 8th grader, they're dumb**** rednecks with dumb**** families and they're an insult to the freedoms of thinking given to us in this nation. they try to oppose the teaching of evolution not just to gain popular support, but also for personal reasons. the BIBLE is like a wall in front of them, not letting them see past that wall. thus, they stay ignorant. and apparently, these officials stay in office because dumb**** laborers and farmers who are too incompetent to be able to manage a desk job vote for them. these dumb****s failed their high school biology course, so they dont know **** about biology. so they're ignorant towards the bible, as well. my opinion is not ignorant at all because i have TONS of valid points to back it up, not just "We look an awful lot like them". i could understate the bible by saying "cuz some guy in a beard said so." just for laughs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 whew! had to get that off my chest, lol. the daily show on comedy central shows a lot of excerpts from southern officials making prejudiced or incorrect (grammar-wise) statements, such as "it's the fault of the lesbians and gays that the event (september 11) happened, cuz if it wasn't for dem people, it woulda never happened." yes, all the europeans in this forum, they are THAT dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 Your case would sound so much better if you'd just drop the mindless cussing and insulting of people; and you probably shouldn't of called Leon a dumb****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 wait, about these clean threads. we're not allowed to curse? i know it gets turned into ****, but do you get banned for cursing. if you do, i'm sorryi did not know and it will never appen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 you misinterpret me. i wasnt calling leon dumb. i was simply commenting on his apparent lack of intelligence on biology. leon isnt dumb just because he doesnt know much about the "origin of species" or cell mitosis or any other biological processes. not all smart people understand biology. but all dumb people dont understand biology. THAT was my point. and as i said earlier, everyone in this forum is OBVIOUSLY just as intelligent as the next since we ALL know star wars is the greatest movie ever!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 i will continue to openly insult the people that deserve to be insulted (southern officials) because i am insulted by their prejudice and their lack of intelligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_drake Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 shara what was that crack about southern officals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DashRendar Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 HOLD UP! Now my interpretation of what you just said is that all Christians or members of any other religions are fools that can't see past their nose. Now if that isn't the most wrong view of religion I don't know what is! Some of the most prominent early scientists were monks, yes monks. Also, if you're saying that we're not giving the other side a chance, you are so wrong. As I said before the only theories that have been proven are the ones that appear in the Bible, and the Torah (the only reason i don't say the Quaran is because I havn't studied the Islam religion much). No believe it or not the theory of evolution at least human wise has not been proven, as I said before I do believe that animals have evolved to adapt to their enviroment. In short religion is man searching for a meaning in life. Without meaning what is the purpose in living? EDIT: i meant Shara's first above comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 Well, you should refrain from doing it but my point was that all the cussing in your posts make them sound like your just ranting and yelling at everyone. You wouldn't read a report like that in class would you? Insults, however, are a punishable offense, so please don't throw anymore names around. Everyone's done a great job in keeping this thread as flame free as possible. It only goes to show just how mature and respectful this community is. Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_drake Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 (man what a suck up ) :laughing: soory rheet but with all this theology being thrown around i think we need some houmor (is'nt the civlopidea great for spelling) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 neither was i saying christians are fools or religion is fraud. i'm saying people here are followers of whatever scripture, yet they'll try to disprove something they dont know much about (as shown in previous comments made in this thread). i gathering is that most people havent read any of darwin's works and truly dont understand everything that goes proves the theory of evolution. and yes it's a theory, but that theory goes a lot farther in terms of logic than does any of the scriptures. religion is not necessary in life, but FAITH is. GOD is. TRUTH is. JUSTICE is. religion has been institutionalized and synthesized throughout the history of man into a means of power, that it's all lost meaning. look at the crusades. look at the taliban. you think THEY are righteous and holy people? OF COURSE NOT. you see those knights following their pope blindly, the israels slaughtering the palistinians, the muslims slaughtering EVERYONE, you think the religions of the world are righteous. now technically, according to the scriptures, the jihad and the crusaders werent wrong. it's just the pope's or the jihad's interpretation of the bible or quran. and THAT"S the thing that proves why the different religions of the world are all fake. they all are interpreted differently, whereas there CAN ONLY BE ONE TRUTH. for me, if religion can be interpreted as manslaughter, then the hell with religion! the reason why theres still a pope today and there's a bin ladin to day is because there is perfect evidence in their scriptures justifying their cause through their point of view. you people think god favors a good christian over a good jew over a good muslim? i believe in GOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 (takes the podium once more) ahem. furthermore, i must apologise about one of my previous comments. not ALL southern officials are dumb-minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted January 9, 2002 Share Posted January 9, 2002 and if you people DONT believe god favors one religion over another, THEN WHY THE HECK ARE YOU CONFINING YOURSELVES TO ONE RELIGION, WHEN ALL OF THEM ARE SUPPOSEDLY EXPRESSING THE SAME TRUTHS???? -hopefully, someone here sees my side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince_Xizor Posted January 10, 2002 Share Posted January 10, 2002 I am undecided... Im pretty angionistic and i dont beleive we came frome apes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted January 10, 2002 Share Posted January 10, 2002 Evolution as a concept is completely compatible with the Bible. It's the idea that, say, mankind evolved from apes that isn't compatible with the Bible. Past that, evolution is not incompatible with creationism. God created animals with incredible adaptive capabilities. For example, I think we can agree that Arctic animals, which are completely adapted for their environment, didn't start out like that, since the ice caps probably formed after the Flood. So how did, say, the polar bear, get like it is now? It evolved, of course, it changed; it adapted. As for the billion-year timetables, they were invented to make the idea that all life evolved from mud plausible; they have nothing else in their favor, especially since there are no truely reliable dating methods going past a few hundred thousand years. My reason for believing in creationism is that the only way for the motions of the universe to fall in place so perfectly is for some super-natural force to create nature. BTW Sharafett, I'd like to see your "tons of valid points" because I have a sneaking feeling that they don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibalscipio Posted January 10, 2002 Share Posted January 10, 2002 Actually, evolution doesn't really go along with the Bible. The Bible doesn't say the world was created in 6 100000 year days or whatever. If you start adding stuff like that in, there is no stopping it. You can do it with anything, add anything in. And I'm getting mad at Shara. First he rants and raves and cusses, then he trashes religious people, then he disses people from the South, which I REALLY resent, then he has multiple triple posts. I don't have much respect for him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raVen_image Posted January 10, 2002 Share Posted January 10, 2002 I believe in the theory of evolution. But let's be clear...science is just another form of religion. Most especially for us laymen. To be truly scientific, you must test the conclusions ... and most of us don't have the tools or experience to do this. We have to have FAITH that the scientists know what is going on. Since evolution(by definition) is not observable within a human lifetime, all we can rely on is the speculation derived from fossel records. For the majority of us, we have faith in things. Neither creation nor evolution is PROVABLE with the limited tools of us LAYMEN. So, science is just another religious belief. That being said, I have faith in the theory of evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artoo Posted January 10, 2002 Share Posted January 10, 2002 You insulted Arkansas again. That is not cool. I've met a lot of the politicians from Arkansas. One of the house members was recently appointed to the board of naturalization and immigration to deal w/ the mexican problem.(Asa Hutchison)Boo hoo me. There are not that many farmers in Arkansas. They make up maybe 1/20 of the population. If you want to see white trash you can go to the northeastand se the late president and his wife. They are the only Arkansans I ever truly hated. There are some bad people but I guaruntee you that there are not that many rednecks left in Arkansas, or the rest of the south for that member. Comedy Central makes fun of them b/c it is a pre-conceived notion that the south is full of rednecks. Let me tell you a big piece of information. IT ISN'T!!!!!! We are good people here in Arkansas and I kindly ask you to stop flamin southern government officials. p.s. We really aren't dumb all you Euro-Asian forummers it's just a pre-conceived notion because of a bad history with the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_drake Posted January 10, 2002 Share Posted January 10, 2002 well shara if you go around and try to be in every relgion then youre messed up becouse allmost all relgions conflict with each other in some way or another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duder Posted January 10, 2002 Share Posted January 10, 2002 Originally posted by Artoo p.s. We really aren't dumb all you Euro-Asian forummers it's just a pre-conceived notion because of a bad history with the north. Its more fun to think you are all hicks from hicksville j/k I dont really think that Artoo, and you are right to point it out. (edit) I think it is just drakey that gives you a bad name on these forums!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Simpson Posted January 10, 2002 Share Posted January 10, 2002 Evolution sounds a lot more reasonable to me than Creationism. I find it very hard to believe that a God created everything we see around us, it just doesn't make sense at all. Who made who is my question? Did God make man, or did man make God? Personally I believe in the latter, but that's just me, and I respect everyone who doesn't share my views. I've never seen God and I never will, because I don't beleive he exists. I have seen a monkey though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_drake Posted January 10, 2002 Share Posted January 10, 2002 duder if i ever find you i'm going to beat your british head in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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