drakken_k Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 yeah, keep it up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_lancer Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 These people have the described freeze / sound loop: zombi3 p3, 933mhz 512mb ram geforce2 ultra 64mb xp pro Jedimaster74 Win XP Pro latest drivers from Nvidias Site Geforce3 TI200 1.4Ghz System Mormegil Athlon 1.1 Geforce 3 Ti200 Windows XP Home 256MB Ram SB 128 fixed by reversing overclocking BobaBot[dD] AMD XP 1050 mHz 512 DDR Ram Radeon VE DDR w/ 64M Ram TFlea Athlon 1.2 ghz 512 mb ram Radeon 64mb DDR Vivo (latest drivers) Soundblaster Live! (latest drivers) Win XP Doppler AMD 1.333 @ 1.5 768mb Crucial PC133 Geforce 2 Ultra (27.42) SB Live XGamer IBM Deskstar 60GXP Dx8.1 VIA 4in1 4.38 Windows XP Home later fixed by changing GL Extensions SnowHeart latest drivers (Nvidia and Creative Arts Audigy) Athlon 1.4 on an Asus board 256 meg PC2100 DDR VisionTek GeForce 3 Audigy Gamer Windows ME Victim Windows XP Pro GeForce 3 Ti 500 SB Live dlosnet Athlon 950 @ 1045 512 MB Ram ATI Rage Pro 128 McDeth Windows XP Pro AMD Athlon 1600 XP @ 1.6 gigz Geforce 3 ti500 sblive 5.1 xgamer 389 mb ram later fixed Ttam legacy AMD T-bird 1.3 Soundblaster LIVE! GeForce 2 GTS/PRO 64MB DDR DET drivers 23.11 512 MB SDRAM WIN XP Pro swippiho win2k p4 1.7ghz 512mb ddram geoforce 2 mx pro sblive 5.1 works on following computer p3 450mhz win2k 768mb ram 3dfx voodoo3 sblive Oblivion winXP Pro 512mb RAM Tnt2 16mb Pentium III 933mhz Built in sound can play for 10-15 minutes, then crash ubamonkey 1.8ghz Athlon 512m DDRAM Geforce 3 TI200 Abit KR7A+ Buckermann Slot A Athlon 800 Mhz TnT2 SB Live Value (all driver updated) gro XP Pro 1.2@1.3 Athlon 768 MB RAM Creative Geforce 2 GTS (23.10 drivers) Soundblaster Audigy (Latest drivers) Epox Ktah3 Motherboard Latest Via 4in1, as well as latest Mobo bios update. HolySmiter NVidia Geforce 2 mx400 (64mb ram) Athlon 900 mhz 256 mb of pc133 ram Windows XP professional Sound Blaster Live Value Emptea Athlon Xp 1500 Geforce3 Ti200 1024 Ram Windows Xp and has sound blaster live card panikinanakin PIII 700 384 Mb Ram 10 Gb Maxtor HD Creative Labs 3d Blaster Annil. GF2 Mx 32 Mb Ess solo sound card Asus motherboard OS is Win 98 SE nVidia driver 27.50 (from Creative's website) 6.50 from Creative's website allows 2.5 - 3 hrs of gameplay TavanZafca Win XP Pro P4 1.6 Gforce 3 64mb SV Live! 512mb Rambus RAM Exitium Athlon 1.2ghz Asus A7A266 Motherboard (With 2.74 AGP drivers for ALi Chipset) Creative Labs GeForce 2 GTS 256mb PC2100 DDR RAM Creative Labs SB Live! Value Windows XP Professional tried the drivers 23.12 (WHQL), 23.11 and 28.32 white_lancer Athlon 1 gHz 256 SDRAM Visontek GeForce 3 Soundblaster Live! Value Windows 98 Second Edition (tried five driver sets including 23.11 and 28.32) DirectX 8.0 and 8.1 FIXED by VIA 4in1 patch v4.29 VIA 4in1 v4.29 at http://www.viahardware.com/686b_2.shtm Demolisher Athlon XP 1.6 Ghz 64 Mb NVidia GeForce 2 MX with 23.11 Detonators 256 Mb RAM 61 Gb harddrive Windows 98 SE DirectX 8.1 Drakii Athlon 700 384M Ram SD11 MoBo Radeon 8500 Retail Avernus Athlon 650 192MB SDRAM Hercules Prophet DVI/DDR (GeForce 256 w 32MB) SB Live Value Windows ME DirectX 8.1 Various Video drvs(including the recommended 23.11) Differing errors: 1-jk2sp.exe error msg crash to desktop with gamma 2-crashes to desktop with no error msg 3-total freezes requiring cold reboot-in menus, sp, and mp 4-freezes with sound loop in menus, sp, and mp ubernerd athlon 1.2ghz 512 MB PC2100 RAM radeon 8500 w/6052 drivers soundblaster live 5.1 winxp pro JediDrew PIII 733 256 MB Ram SB Audiggy Radeon 64 DDR Phenoman athlon 1000 256 mb pc-133 ram msi geforce3 ti-200 (detonator 28.32) sounblaster live! (newest driver) 20 gb ibm harddisk win 2000 pro Lemmy Athlon 1 gHz 256 RAM GeForce2 MX 200 SB-128 Win98SE Newest Detonator Drivers jasho AMD 1Ghz 1.2GB RAM ASUS A7V ASUS v8200 GeForce3 Ti500 Creative Sound Blaster Audigy DirectX 8.1 VIA 4.38 nVidia Detonator 28.32 Windows 2000 SP2 mr_mcdylan Athlon 900 ATI Rage Fury Pro (32mb) VIA sound card (on motherboard) 320 mb Ram Win 98 SE DirectX 8.1 all updated drivers cwood60 AMD 1.4 ghz 256 DDR Ram Nvida GeForce 2 MX-100/200 Windows 98 SE Avance? '97 Sound Card will work on... PIII 550mhz 256 Ram Matrox Millenium 16mb ram (NO 3D ACCELRATOR) Crystal Sound pbdrummer p2 350 320 mb ram geforce2 32 megs Creative AudioPCI sound updated drivers, everything; even tried with older drives Morgon p2 400 128 RAM Voodoo 2 Win 98 9 gb hd drakken_k ATHLON 1900XP abit KR7A-RAID HDD in RAID 0 430 W PSU (enermax) scsi tekram DC310 3com nic RADEON 8500 (all drivers) FORTISSIMO (last drv) win2000 sp2 last 4-in 1 same crash with GFORCE 2 GTS (all drivers) and SBlive crash as well on WinXP still crash with no sound, no network and no scsci note: only crashes in single player sammy Hercules Game theater Xp ECS K7S5A (sis 735 chipset) AMD 1500XP nvidia gforce2 GTS 256 SDR ram Herculer game theater Xp sound card Win XP DaveSauce AMD T-Bird 1.0 gig Asus A7A266 mobo (ALi chipset) 512mb PC133 SDRAM Gainward Geforce3 w/23.11 drivers jasho Intel PII 300MHz 512MB RAM ASUS P2L97 VisionTek GeForce3 Ti200 Windows 2000 SP2 Creative Soundblaster Live! X-Gamer DirectX 8.1 nexus_mike 3D Blaster Geforce 4 MX440 (28. detonator drivers) Direct X 8.1 SB Awe64 Gold nikkyo Athlon 600Mhz 192 Mb RAM Matrox G400Max (32megs) Sblive! Chacal PIII 866 overclocked to 1 ghz. 512 RAM GeForce 2 GTS Soundblaster Live! Win 98 SE now fixed could play multiplayer but not singleplayer downloaded the 28.11 (he thinks) drivers for the GeForce then un-overclocked his processor Fatal-x win 98se amd t-bird 1.4 soundblaster 512 geforce 3 ti 200 7200 40 gig hd 48x cd rom jereboa P4 1.9Ghz 512 DDR RAM Hercules 3D Prophet 4500 (64MB) SB Live 5.1 Win 2K DirectX 8.1 latest drivers for video board Vertig0 AMD Athlon 800 Asus K7M Asus V6600 Deluxe (GF 256) SBLive! 5.1 384 megs RAM Windows XP Pro note: only crashes in single; occasional stuttering in multi porque P4 1600 mhz 256 Ram Geforce 3 ti 200 Windows XP achillies775 NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 Creative PC-DVD Encore Dxr3 DirectX 8 Windows 98 A 4.10.2222 1533 MHz AuthenticAMD AMD Model 6, Step 2 511 MB RAM Vypr (praise him, for he led me to my fix!) Dual PIII 800EB ECS D6VAA motherboard with VIA 686B chipset SBLive! Value ATI Radeon VE Windows 2000 SP2 Butt Sqwert Pentium 3 1000 mHz 655 megs ram ax64 pro mb Herc Xp soundcard 28.32 drivers used in all cards below notes: no crash nor freeze with old Mx card no crash nor freeze with gf3 card instant freeze with a sparke gf4MX if turn gl_extentions off, about 5 mins until the freeze same with dx_sound_acel off same (same with MoHAA, CS and others) IT Troll Win XP Pro ABIT KT7A-RAID Duron 1.0@1.2 512MB SDRAM Geforce 3 Ti200 @ 200/450 Detonator 28.32 SB Live! Value note: volumetric shadows causes crash BunnyTea Duron 800 VIA K133 640 RAM GeForce 2 GTS SB Live Creative 12x DVD Encore Plextor 24x CD-RW Windows ME the newer det drivers (not 23.11) TarzanBoy PIII 450 Win98 256MB RAM Visontek TNT2 23/28 drivers (neither made a difference) My sound card is an Aztech SC128 -3D (based upon S3 Sonic Vibes chipset) DX8.0/8.1 (no diff) Fatboy Roberts AMD Duron 900 Rage 128 Pro 320 megs of RAM basic 16 bit Soundblaster card Windows XP Pro keeps getting dumped back to the main menu in multiplayer with that one ParsecPacket error or whatever it is. I've had the freeze/sound loop problem once or twice, but other than that, single player is working fine. It's not like I have a top of the line system or video card, but I've only had 2 freeze ups in single player over about 15 hours of straight gameplay, but I can't get through 2 minutes of multiplayer before it freezes Edward_Zeth Win 98 SE P4 1.6 GhZ VIA Apollo MotherBoard 512 MB RAM Cable Built in sound he's pretty darn sure NVIDIA VANTA 16 MB VIDEO 64 MB AGP Current number of people who have returned the game in frustration: 1 - - - - - - - NB: If anyone has updated information about their system or problems, please post and help the rest of us! [edit: added TarzanBoy, Fatboy Roberts, Edward_Zeth] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasho Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 White_Lancer Where did you get the VIA 4-in-1 v4.39 drivers? I can only find the v4.38 drivers. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_lancer Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Sorry, I ment the 4.29. Found it here: http://www.viahardware.com/686b_2.shtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertig0 Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Lancer, just a note, I too have the crashes *only* in single player... I very rarely, if ever, crash in multi-player. Erm.. For some reason, I get sound stuttering in multi-player, but the game resumes normally after a few seconds.. *shrug*. At least HALF of this game works.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlauthor Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Having the same freeze/loop problem. Surprise, surprise. PIII 533 MHz, 128Mb RAM NVidia GeForce 256 Soundblaster PCI 128 Windows 98 The usual deal that people have expressed here -- about 10 minutes in, the game freezes, and the sound repeats like a bad hip-hop song. Alt-F4 and the three-finger-pinch don't work. I've turned off extensions, switched shadows to simple, and sacrificed a small goat, but nothing seems to stop it. I shelled out $60 for the super-special edition of this game, and all I currently have for my money is two older games I'll never played, an admittedly nifty keychain, and a tin box. The main reason I wanted JKII, the actual _game_, is currently fit for coaster duty only. Raven/Lucas: I work for a game developer, and I have to say your lack of response on this thread is shameful. I'm not expecting you to wave your hand and make it all better, and I'm fully aware that deadline pressures and such can lead to good people releasing buggy games (not that I'm condoning it, but that's the current state of the industry). A quick note saying "problem noted, working on a patch," however, would be a wholly appropriate way of making the increasing number of angry people on this thread feel like they're doing something other than howling into the void. (And, of course, if you're _not_ working on a patch ... that's another matter.) Edit: single-player mode. Haven't even bothered trying multiplayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fleming Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 After trying EACH AND EVERY DAMN ONE of the supposed fixes that have been mentioned in this enormous thread, and a few of my own (holy water and Father Merrin notwithstanding)...I stumbled upon the cure, and I've been able to FINALLY play this incredible game without ANY FREEZES or crashes whatsoever. The only catch is that you're going to need to have Return to Castle Wolfenstein on your hard drive. Not really a bad thing, because if you don't have it...you're really missing a great FPS. After downloading the latest Wolfenstein patch (v1.31), all my problems in JKII: JO were resolved. Is this due to the common use of the QIII engine? Or is it just kismet? Hell, I don't know...but i'll be damned if JO isn't running like a champ now. Just for the record, my system specs are: AMD T-Bird 1.2 GhZ Gladiac nVidia GeForce 3 380 Mb RAM SB 128 If you're as frustrated as I was, do yourself a favor and get your ass to Mars...uhm, I mean get with the clicking over to http://www.activision.com/games/wolfenstein/downloads/files.html and stop being pissed and take your first step into a larger world. I find your lack of faith disturbing, -Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demolisher Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Ok Raven, now I am getting pissed. The game is now constantly freezing in single player and a lot in multi for me and others. Why do you constantly screw up when you make games and take forever to acknowledge anything and fix it?!! There is absolutely nothing wrong with my computer that this game should freeze all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttam legacy Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by Vypr Like others on this page I have suffered severely from the freeze/sound loop crash Which on one occasion was so severe that it completely hosed the Windows installation. On doing a bit of research on the problem, I have come to the conclusion that JK:O is especially sensitive to the problem involving hte SBLive! soundcard and certain VIA chipsets. For the records I have : Dual PIII 800EB ECS D6VAA motherboard with VIA 686B chipset SBLive! Value ATI Radeon VE Windows 2000 SP2 There is a known problem withe Live! cards and the 686B chipset that was supposed to have been fixed in the 4-in-1 driver version 4.31 and above. Tests have shown that the driver update did not resolve the issue. What I can say is that the non-professional "Georges PCI Latency Patch" does seem to have solved my problem (I spent 3 happy hours playing yesterday and was actually able to shut the machine down myself!) The patch is available form the Viahardware website at VIA 686b & Soundcards Please note that this fix applies ONLY if you have the VIA 686b chipset and a SBLive! soundcard, do not run the patch if you do not have this setup as it could damage your machine. If you are unsure wether your machine has the 686b chipset, check your motherboard manual, or alternatively download a copy of SiSoft Sandra which will give you information on your hardware setup. I too have this person to thank for bringing this to my attention. After long thought (because Georges PCI Latency Patch could possibly damage your system, I said to hell with it and used it. Amazingly enough, ALL MY RANDOM FREEZE AND SOUND LOOP PROBLEMS ARE GONE in both multiplayer AND single player!!!! I suggest to anyone who has these problems and the hardware mentioned in this persons post to get this patch and install it. The problem is DEFINITLY A SOUNDBLASTER LIVE!! issue. THANK YOU SO MUCH VYPR!!! YOUR THE MAN!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbdrummer Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Hey, i've tried the wolfenstein patch, the george's latency patch, and all that jazz....along with EVERYTHING else that has been suggested on this board, and by Raven (defrag, clean install) and still nothing. Nothing works. Nothing at all....it still locks up, 90% of the time before i even get out of the start up screen. I CANT EVEN CONFIGURE MY FREAKING CONTROLS WITHOUT IT LOCKING UP!!!! Something HAS to be done about this crap......I'm getting really fed up with this. I would suggest that everybody stop posting these half-arsed fixes (even though SOME work for SOME people), and let Raven or Lucasarts get off their butts and fix THEIR OWN PRODUCT!! If you wont fix it, at least acknowledge that there IS a problem. Geez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDrew Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 THis is gonna sound strange, but I think I've fixed my problems by changing my mouse and OS. I originally had WinME and a Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer. The game was crashing on my every 10 minutes (I mean hard freezing) and my mouse was dying all the time (only in JO). I did a clean install of WinXP, which got rid of the graphical stuttering and sound loops, and bought a Logitech dual optical. The game's running great for me now. If it starts to act up again I'll let yah'll know. Now I know not everyone was running WinME or had an Intellimouse Explorer, but just saying what worked for me. We shouldn't have to upgrade OS or reinstall the OS just to play a game. Here are my specs again: PIII 733 Radeon 64 DDR VIVO 256MB Ram SB Audiggy Now using WinXP pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISURUS Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 My game freezes and then I receive a nice meesage stating that the exe for jedi knight cause an application error. My desktop is messed up by this point ...bad colors/gamma and screen size. I need to reboot after this. The game was fun. 2000 Pro Sp2 DirectX 8.1 AMD Athlon XP 1700 Gigabyte GA-7DXR (latest bios) 384 MB RAM 50+ free space on my IBM ATA 100 HD GeForce2 MX400 (latest detonator drivers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbdrummer Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Well, i got tired of jk2 not working, so i decided to reinstall the sims, along w/livin large and hot date...so i was goin into hot date and guess what?! IT FRIGGIN FREEZES WITH THE SOUND LOOP!!!! WTF?! It never did that before..... This is a buncha b/s....I swear. Never seen anything like it in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarzanBoy Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 My game freezes and then I receive a nice meesage stating that the exe for jedi knight cause an application error... Yep. JK2S caused an error/fault in jk2gamex86.dll..... I get that exact error about 40% of the time. The other 60% of the time it just freezes in a sound loop (and I have to do manual reboot). The gamma and screen resolution being screwd up with that error is a result of JkO crashing before it has a chance to set the display back to desktop settings. Its easy to set it back without a reboot, but my computer usually acts strange after that crash (Alt+Tab doesn't work anymore, etc) My setup is Visontek TNT2 23/28 drivers (neither made a diff) My sound card is an Aztech SC128 -3D (based upon S3 Sonic Vibes chipset) 256MB RAM, Win98,DX8.0/8.1 (no diff), PIII 450 The only overlap with our systems seems to be the video card. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Roberts Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 [luke voice] I'm with you too [/luke voice] I keep getting dumped back to the main menu in multiplayer with that one ParsecPacket error or whatever it is. I've had the freeze/sound loop problem once or twice, but other than that, single player is working fine. It's not like I have a top of the line system or video card, but I've only had 2 freeze ups in single player over about 15 hours of straight gameplay, but I can't get through 2 minutes of multiplayer before it freezes and dumps me back to the main menu AMD Duron 900 Rage 128 Pro 320 megs of RAM basic 16 bit Soundblaster card Windows XP Pro Someone is reading, right? Fatboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBark Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Here's a fix you may want to try, it solved the problem for me. It turns out my memory couldn't handle the speed it was running at, even though I was running it at the speed and CAS Latency it was rated for. I downloaded this memory test program: http://www.teresaudio.com/memtest86/ Just put a blank floppy in your drive, run the install.bat, and boot off the floppy. It starts the test automatically. Pay close attention to test #5, its the one that failed for me. I lowered my bus speed, and it passed. So far, I've played over 5 hours of JK2 with no crashed, when previously the game would crash with 15-30 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakken_k Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 updating my status... To remind the situation : - game stable in MP - game has about 20% chance freezing when the launcher from the cd execute upon insertion of the CD - the game has about 20% chance freezing when inserting the CD while the game run. - game freeze in SP ==> freeze/sound loop ==> jk2.exe,dll and cie error back to desktop with strange gamma ==> other blue screen (less common) since last time I tried PCI latency patch and the trick with Wolfenstein + path. And no more freeze/sound loop ... but still the other bugs. No other software/game cause trouble. I won't post my config here again you can find it on previous pages. Drakken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demolisher Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 God, it's just getting worse and worse. I'm freezing all the time now! The game either freezes, or I get Windows "This program has performed an illegal........." and then I get to the desktop and it's all superbright! <rant> Raven, you've seen me from Hexen II, Heretic II, and Elite Force and I have to say "YOUR TESTERS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I could've waited another 2 months for this game, you didn't have to release it now. First, you leave Hexenworld unfinished, loaded with bugs. Then you make Heretic II and take forever to make enhancements and then leave it at that. You took forever to patch Elite Force and released an overhyped boring expansion. Now you release what should be your best game and the thing is constantly constantly crashing! Everyone, don't stop bumping this thread! :mad:</rant> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenoman Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 *bump* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netskimmer Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 How do I change my bus speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakken_k Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 re - BUMP - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exitium Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Hey guys, an update on my part. I just went to my BIOS settings and configured my RAM settings to make them slower, because I have a feeling that the whole freezing thing could be the result of the RAM overheating (One of them is Samsung, the other's Apacer) so you can imagine how prone they are to that sort of thing. I probably wouldn't have this problem if they were both Crucial. Well, I haven't tried playing anything yet and I'm installing JK2 again as we speak, and I'm hoping, no... PRAYING that this will fix my problems. I'll update you guys within an hour, or if it works, hopefully a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netskimmer Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by Exitium Hey guys, an update on my part. I just went to my BIOS settings and configured my RAM settings to make them slower, because I have a feeling that the whole freezing thing could be the result of the RAM overheating (One of them is Samsung, the other's Apacer) so you can imagine how prone they are to that sort of thing. I probably wouldn't have this problem if they were both Crucial. Well, I haven't tried playing anything yet and I'm installing JK2 again as we speak, and I'm hoping, no... PRAYING that this will fix my problems. I'll update you guys within an hour, or if it works, hopefully a day. How do I alter my ram settings in bios? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exitium Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Okay, don't bother with the RAM thing. I got it to work for a whole 45 minutes and even got through some pretty big firefights (20+ stormtroopers and grenades) LD and then when I least expected, it froze up with the looping sound and I had to cold reboot. I was having so much fun, too. ARGH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_THX1138 Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 :BUMP: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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