[Fallen]Ntrope Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 Boba Fett, one of the most praised and beloved characters in the Star Wars universe, but few actually ask why. Sure he hid in a pile of junk and then tailed the Falcon, discovering its plans to set down in Cloud City. But then what does he do, he cries to the Imperial Army to come back him up. So far we've got rudimentary skills any two-bit bounty hunter may possess...So where do you ask does the vaunted expertise of Boba Fett shine? To answer simply...nowhere - Aside from striking a dangerous pose while standing behind the real deal Darth Vader, Fett does little else in Cloud city other than direct the carbonite-frozen body of Solo into his ship and fly away. But you ask, he is such a prime figure in all Star Wars dicussion, he surely must amaze in Jedi! To answer that, sadly, its another no. Boba finally gets his chance, aside from a head-nod cameo (And later added scenes which we will not discuss since they are NOT part of the movie Return of the Jedi, but rather some sick parody added on for the sake of exuse of release. (( And while we're on that, Solo DID fire first)) ) Anyway, returning to the base of the discussion, we have Boba, Jabba's nasties and assorted other scum verses a blind Han, a pretty able bodied Luke, a half-nude princess and a wookie. Surely with these odds Boba captured them all again and retrieved 5 times the bounty...Wrong again. He gets his ass whupped by a blind captain Solo and gets munched by a burp-tossing hole in the ground to be slowly eaten for thousands and thousands of years....Ha! And no - he didn't escape and fry the sarlac, as some accounts wish you to believe...he was digested and died a pitiful death, at the hands of one of the true heros of Star Wars - Han Mo-fokin' Solo. To wrap this nonsensical rant up, Boba Fett looked cool, but couldn't perform, basically he sucked then, and he sucks now. /rant off Ntrope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk3y3Pierce Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 Yo! U B Dissin' my homie! LOL Hawkeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 i dunno, jabba himself and all his men couldnt catch Han, if i was god i wouldnt wanna go in against him w/o vaders backup... plus that armor is too damn cool!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnail Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 No way! Boba Fett rulez and he....hey wait a minute, he's right. whadadope! Maybe Jango Fett will show us what the noise is all about. OTH Boba Fett was a real challenge in Dark Forces, took me ages to get past him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quamosity Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 you do make some valid arguments, however, some of your facts are not correct. Boba DID, indeed, survive the Sarlaac. His suit of armor, IIRC, allowed him to be indigestible to the Sarlaac. He was nursed back to health by someone whose name eludes me, and once back on his feet, made his way in the Slave II to capture Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo. theres more to it, and I think Boba dies again...not disproving your theory...but he isn't that bad. He at least captures Solo--unlike Greedo, or any stormtroopers for that matter. But...whatever :-p Oh, Boba's comeback was featured in the hella old SW comics from when the movies originally came out. He comes back in SLAVE II during Dark Empire, i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prox Kolari Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 My brother and I always thought Boba Fett must have gotten his awesome reputation elsewhere, because in the movies he seemed incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fallen]Ntrope Posted April 10, 2002 Author Share Posted April 10, 2002 His vaunted comeback is in one of the bounty hunter short story collections that the two-bit hack authors with SW licenses released. Cheese! I say he is still currently being digested, even though this was a long long time ago...and the sarlacc spit out his armour, at which time it was taken and used to further perpetuate the Dread Pirate Roberts myth!...Erm....wrong movie...anyway - Yah. He be dead mon, even Jah Rastafari couldn't bring da steppin' mandalorian back. Don't even get me started on Jango, Lucas and his quadruple chin thingy is just catering to marketing ploys rather than releasing another original film...Thats what the phantom menace was weak and thats why attack of the clones will be weaker. Not that I wont go see the film midnight the night before, I'm still a fan, I just hate to see the originality of the first three movies being quietly replaced by audience-catered story tie-ins, and very poorly integrated CG animation. The scale models, amazing explotions and quality of story were what set the original films apart - I'd take Henson's puppets and costumes over computer animation any day. Bah now I'm off topic and confused...Mmmmm Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Sacralicious. Ntrope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 i agree, the CG is awesome, but you cannot reproduce the grimyness of the real models, it made it look sooo real... star wars isnt about shiney ships, or reflective floors, or big hairdoos... its about old, creaky ships, who blowout at the most inoppertune moments, rusty hallways, and buns... i also love the real models and puppets over the CG, but some of it is necessary i guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatboyTim Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 Originally posted by [Fallen]Ntrope Sure he hid in a pile of junk and then tailed the Falcon, discovering its plans to set down in Cloud City. But then what does he do, he cries to the Imperial Army to come back him up. Er no, he calls the Imperial Army who are paying a massive bounty for the capture of the Millenium Falcon. So, not only does he get a big fee from The Empire, he then also gets to sell Solo on to Jabba! Two of the biggest bounties in history for just one job? Can't fault hm there. Fair play to the guy, if you ask me... :rolleyess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolboi Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 - I'd take Henson's puppets and costumes over computer animation any day. Amen! I miss models and puppets, they looked considerably better than most of this CG ****e. Any one remember the exorsist? That had AMAZING models, as did Star Trek. Now as for Boba Fett, hes got the coolest looking armor to come out of starwars, and thats it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyJedi Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 Originally posted by quamosity He was nursed back to health by someone whose name eludes me, and once back on his feet, made his way in the Slave II Is it just me, does the name Slave II for a ship have an almost comical ring to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 Dengar and Manaroo rescued him. Read Bounty Hunter Wars!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacKnight Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 You're right except for one thing, there are 3 reasons that Boba Fett has a reputation. 1st for some reason vader singles him out among all the other bounty hunters and tells him "No desintegrations" also Fett is the only person in the movies besides the emproer and tarkin to disagree even mildly with vader. What does vader do about it? aboslutly nothing! And Fett does it twice. So he must have some kind of skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi-zero Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 maybe your right is armor is cool !BUT THE FACT IS he dies like a girl in rotj hit by luck by a blind man .....scream like a girl in mid air and cant control is jet pack ...hit the ship and roll down the sarlaack ..... this was the funniest death ever in star wars .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrew_TFS Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 I'm such a loser to say this, but Boba Fett didn't die in RotJ. In one of the Kevin J. Anderson books (Bounty Hunters most obviously likely), Boba Fett blows himself out of the Sarlaac pit worm creature and is rescued by an ex-imperial assassin. The details might be wrong, but the fact still remains that Boba didn't die in RotJ, jedi-zero. Upon looking back, this has already been stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Isn't it Dengar who rescues him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolboi Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Oh face it, Bubba is dead, Lucas killed him off in ROTJ and any ressurection is a sort of deus ex machina whos purpose is to reinvolve a character that everyone loves in order to give a book a catch. Do you guys have any idea how much easier it is to write somethign when the characters are already there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalGuard Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 but Boba Fett didn't die in RotJ As a fan of the EU Starwars as well as the films I completely agree. As has already been said he was rescued by Dengar (the ex-imperial assasain) and Manaroo (his bit of dancer skirt) after Boba blew a hole in the side of the Sarlacc with all of his grenades. this was the funniest death ever in star wars .... Definitely As to Boba's generally poor performance in the films he was up against the invincible Solo luck. Remember that last fight scene, he jets over to the skiff, binds the 'Jedi-Knight' is ready to finish him off, and then a clumsy, insanely lucky swing by the blind HAn Solo triggers the manual override on his Jet pack, sending him plummeting into the Sarlacc. To mangle a Police squad phrase, he was a "Good Bounty Hunter having a really bad day". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Don't even get me started on Jango, Lucas and his quadruple chin thingy is just catering to marketing ploys rather than releasing another original film...Thats what the phantom menace was weak and thats why attack of the clones will be weaker. Not that I wont go see the film midnight the night before, I'm still a fan, I just hate to see the originality of the first three movies being quietly replaced by audience-catered story tie-ins, and very poorly integrated CG animation. Why do people feel the need to judge Ep1 before they see the other two movies? I mean one: it's part of a TRILOGY, if you look at 1/3 of a puzzle it looks pretty lousy and frankly, I never really liked A New Hope as a stand alone movie two:if Lucas had had the technology he has now, the original trilogy would look more like The Phantom Menace.... poorly integrated CG? yeah cause the puppets and models looked SO smooth... It all looks unreal, but this is a different and new kind of unreal and ohno, better crawl under your rock and talk about the good 'ol days. If Lucas was catering to marketing ploys the first three minutes of Ep2 would be the graphic death of Jar Jar, and I'll bet anything you want to bet that that doesn't happen ;-) Lastly, anyone would look bad standing next to the best hero's of the rebellion, I mean, damn, they took down an entire Empire, they should be able to handle the top bounty hunter like he's an 11 year old boy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Oh, my other thing was that attacking Lucas just because he has turkey neck is rude, and immature, how much do YOU weigh tubby-tubby??? (jk lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhatter160 Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 OK, I loved the first few years that the EU came out specifically, Shadows of the Empire and the Heir to the Empire trilogy (it got too crazy as time went on, unfortunately). However, offically, the Star Wars canon is strictly the MOVIES. Anything else, including my beloved Shadows and even JK2 are not official. I think this is stated in a FAQ on this site somewhere. So, Bobba Fett is dead, thank god. P.S. The coolest armor award goes to Vader with the Emperor's Guards as a close second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylilin Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 i think Boba Fett became such a popular character is because he is cool lookin, and he looks like hw coupd kick some booty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Econ Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Fett can not be killed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 hehe Bossk would agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliok Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 +++ I have to agree with [Fallen]Ntrope on his views concerning the dubious character of Boba Fett. In the end, like virtually all other characters in the Star Wars Universe (save for the Old Man), Boba Fett is merely another one of Vader's lackeys, bowing and nodding and doing their best not to get choked to death. The entirety of Boba Fett's character is vested in his image, for there is virtually no evidence to support either his alleged skill as a bounty hunter, or his illusory association with Darth Vader. +++ When viewed in the context of the entire first (and only worthy) trilogy, not only does this bounty hunter exhibit about as much screen time as Beru Lars, he does so primarily as 'window dressing', in an attempt to make a fundamentally uninteresting scene more attractive or inviting - and almost always as a focus of power... someone else's power. Boba Fett is a plot contrivance designed to be pointed at, ordered around, conflicted with, and ultimately defeated... defining concepts for a textbook lackey. Boba Fett merely does his job well while looking rather smart in the process. +++ I completely disagree with George Lucas and his approach to integrating Boba Fett into his new trilogy. I have read virtually all of the separate fiction - comic books and novels - that involve Boba Fett, either before or after the original trilogy. I must say that several of the writers involved have had very impressive ideas for expanding the character of Boba Fett to match both his image and his reputation. Others fell far short of the mark, and so will not be mentioned here. The storylines concerning one Jaster Mereel, the Journeyman Protectorate, Jodo Kast, and above all the Mandalorian supercommandos, have all added a depth and interest to what was once a mere carboard cutout of a character. All of this, it seems, has been cast aside by Lucas, in favor of his new vision of the past. +++ Boba Fett is now the clone-son of one Jango Fett, an impressive and skillful bounty hunter (whose reputation had better be supported in the upcoming film!). Jango Fett is one of the survivors of the infamous warrior-tribe known as the Mandalorian 'shocktroopers', who were supposedly all but wiped out by the Jedi Knights in yet another one of their fanatical purges of 'evil' from the galaxy. Jango supplies the raw genetic material to the Kaminoans for the production of clone-troopers, and as part of his compensation is given an 'unmodified' clone as a son, who is given the name Boba and takes on his 'father's' namesake. +++ Some of the minor details are retained, such as Jango Fett being raised on the frontier world of Concord Dawn, and there is a reasonable margin of mystery that may allow Boba Fett's non-canon past to be accepted into the newer storyline as written by Lucas, but it still leaves behind the feeling that a somewhat pivotal character, once created as almost an afterthought by George Lucas, then subsuquently supported and enhanced through the work of other talented writers, is once more receiving the damaging 'inattention' of Lucas. I like the character of Boba Fett, not from his portrayal in the original trilogy, but for what he had become afterwards. His character was written off by Lucas in Return of the Jedi, most likely because Lucas wanted closure for his trilogy. In order to accomplish that, all vestiges of evil that remained needed to be defeated, and so even a bit part like Boba Fett needed to be dealt with and given a final end. +++ Personally, I would love to see a worthy 'Special Edition' Star Wars trilogy, one that includes the following: 1) Han Solo (still) shoots first. 2) Vader says 'Bring my shuttle.', instead of some long-winded command to some lackey. 3) Wookies fight the Empire on Kasshhyyyk instead of Ewoks flailing about on Endor. 4) They replace that wax-figure mask with Ian McDiarmind in the holo-transmission between Vader and the Emperor in The Empire Strikes Back. 5) Boba Fett gets to say his lines to Han Solo when they meet on Cloud City, as they were spoken in the Star Wars radio drama. 6) Neither Luke nor Boba Fett screams like a girl when they fall to their possible demise. 7) And last, but not least... In the scene where Jabba's sail barge is destroyed, and the skiffs containing our heroic troop speeds off to the horizon and an uncertain destiny, a solitary armoured figure rises up in the foreground, brushing the sand and slime from his shoulder plates, and watches the skiff depart into the distance. The figure then looks to the sky, bends slighty forward, and then rockets away on a fine trail of white smoke! Yeehaah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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