TheSoupNazi Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY_jmr1 Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 neg. WILL get yanked, so you might as well do it your self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairAthlete Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 I liked the old one. The admins are pretty strict around here, I'd advise putting your old one back ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrUeFoRcE Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 yea it probably will get taken off by administrators...but i dont see why soo many people have a problem with swearing on forums etc....its not like tis the first time kids hear these words, they hear them more often in school or even by their parents than whant they read on a gaming forum...=\ just my 2 cents.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Blades Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 I think it's lame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY_jmr1 Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 yes its lame, but its a quote from auston powers 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tozier Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 KEEP IT! Who cares if you get kicked- oops... I've said too much..... *cough* I'll go away now. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digl Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 I don't know An admin should decide I think the thread is not acceptable at the Valley though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze_Elite Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 I don't know, my heritage doesn't hold much love for nazis (not even if it's a joke). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY_jmr1 Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 Originally posted by Kamikaze_Elite I don't know, my heritage doesn't hold much love for nazis (not even if it's a joke). we are not questioning his name, but the pic under it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Legolas Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 If your Jewish (explaining why you wouldnt like Nazis a whole lot) then what about Israel attacking Palistine currently? Not anywhere near as bad a a holocaust, but still its not very nice is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze_Elite Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 What? I can't belive I actually have to answer this! But I will, just to enlighten you guys a bit. 1. The Nazis killed 6,000,000 JEWS during the holocaust. Yes, other groups besides Jews were killed, but not to the extent that the Jews were. The 6 million refers to the numbers of Jews only. 2. What Isreal is doing right now is a military retaliation. The palestines were commiting suicide bombings directed at civilian masses (NOT MILITARY TARGETS!) almost weekly. These bombings were not little deals, either. Some of them ranked with the attack on 9/11, but became old news because they were so common. 3. Isreal was forced to act! It cannot be expected to sit back while hundreds of its people die! 4. How is this any different than what the US is doing in Afganistan??? If anything, we were harassed LESS, and then we go in and bomb their country-side! How is what the Jews are doing any different then the holocaust??? Well besides the numbers killed (you asked me not to bring that up for some reason), the Nazis tried to exterminate an entire race, killing millions of innocent people. Isreal is trying to end the terrorism that has plagued them for 25 years, and is only targeting PEOPLE WHO ARE SHOOTING BACK AT THEM. Did the Jews shoot back when the Nazis came for them?? Did the Jews terrorize the Nazis, forcing them to act? And did the Nazis only go after ARMED MEN (and leave women and children out of it)? I'm sorry Legolas, but comparing my people to the Nazis is the worst insult I could have recieved. I'm grieved that your opinion is actually how most people feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxWinnaRxX Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Boo friggin' hoo. We will not pity nor praise you because you are Jewish. The holocaust is OVER, live with it. If israel is at war, big deal. Somebody in America nabbed a little kid and ran away. That hits home, and we still don't really think much about it, so something that happened upwards of fifty years ago halfway across the globe is old news. I jokingly call my dad "Dadolf" all the time, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Point being, you can whine, cry, scream, and throw a little temper tantrum all you want. Nobody will really give a crap. If they do, they'll be laughing at you, and plotting how to goad you next to get you to do it again. Learn restraint, nobody likes a whiner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedantic Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 WTF are you talking about, XxWinnaRxX?! Just because something happened in the past doesn't mean it isn't pertinent. I hardly think stating the facts is whining, either. If your country was being suicide bombed as much as Israel, you might be a little ticked, ya think? Like Kamikaze said, it's the same thing as the U.S. is doing in Afghanistan. I surprised the Israelis have as much patience with the Palestinians as they do. And returning fire at people who fire at you is hardly a massacre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebelwerfer_ Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 You guys.... If you only knew where his name actually came from. The soup nazi was a character in a Seinfield episode, Not a national socialist political party/dictatorship headed by adolf hitler in the 30's/40's. This forum shouldn't have even erupted in an argrument on the holocaust and zionist movement and modern suicide bombings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Wow.... I thought everyone had heard of the soup nazi.... "My mulligatoni(sp?)!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
power_ed Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 A NAZI?? WHERE?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millions o' Monkeys Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 i really hope this thread dosnt get violent...this really isnt the place to be getting (insert colourful language here) at each other about things that have happeneddd/are...really both of what happneed/happening sucks, yea its really bad. but no reason starting a conflict about whats worse....( i know this post dosnt make sense. but its hard to think for me right now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Some of you are making discussions on a point of a couple of months/years of a conflict that has lasted over 4000 years. My personal opinion is that Israel has used the excuse/cover of the extended search for the Al Qaeda network/Osama Bin Laden to do what they are doing to Palestinians. What is more than disconcerting was the lack of reaction by anyone to stop this. As for suicide bombers, I think they exist on both sides, since both have parties that show the extreme views of hatred towards each other. I no longer really watch news on TV, or read too much into what is said into the paper, as they usually are full of the prejudice of the owner. I don't think everything is being shown/disclosed to the majority of the public. As for what happened to the Jews, mainly at Auschwitz Camp 2 - Birkenau, the main place where they were killed and incinerated, it may be 50 years or more ago, but it is one of the most inhumane things that has happened in history. There is no winners in any kind of armed conflict, whether if it happened last night, or 1000 years ago. Just to put a catch amongst the pigeons, does everyone look down upon the Roman Catholic church, and in some way Christianity, about the Inquisitions and the Crusades, where under the name of religion, they killed, just like the Israelites and Palestinians are now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerdude Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 you guys just cant keep it on topic, can you?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Now, I can't tell if that is Hitler or not, but we can do without the expletive. Change it or one of us will, kay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hateplow Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Alright, just to throw my two cents in (I don't want to engage in a huge pointless political debate): What Israel does now has 0 to do with the Holocaust. The fighting over there has a lot of complicated political threads tied up. As far as I'm concerned the leadership sucks for both the Palestinians and Israelis, and it's not going to get better anytime soon. Frankly I'm ashamed that the human race hasn't got past this kind of behavior (I know, they're not the only ones, but just saying, it's a blatant example of the brick wall human progress has hit). The Nazis killed a lot of people, and that's why they're hated. They weren't the biggest killers (Stalin, for example, an ally against Hitler during the latter part of the war, killed more people on his own than Hitler did, the Chinese government under communism, etc etc.). Numerous wars various countries have had and genocides and massacres have taken place since that time that are just as tragic. Anytime lots of people are killed, it's a sad day for the human race. I don't care if they're Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, intellectuals, Christians, socialist sympathizers, political dissidents, whatever. People don't deserve to die just because of their ideas or their ancestry. The only thing I really object to in these discussions is the implication that SOME people make that because of the holocaust, Israel can do whatever it wants. One outspoken Jewish scholar against this type of association is Marc Ellis, who has written some good books on the subject. Many other people I've talked to see the issue as not such a black and white "either you're with us or you're with them" situation. There comes a time when killing MORE people just isn't going to make things any better. Do I have a solution? No, I'm afraid I don't. Not unless I can convince people to stop killing! Some people throw out "nazi" or "hitler" like a generic insult, just as others throw out other expletives. I think, given the historical ramifications of the name and their associations it just shows the person's ignorance. I some countries it's illegal to mention them, and I think that's wrong, because it stifles freedom of speech (which is something I've been brought up to think is a basic freedom that all should be able to enjoy). It's not here, but calling somebody a nazi will get you the same penalties as calling them other nasty names, ie, warning, banning, etc as the situation calls for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze_Elite Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Well said Kurgan, and I don't believe that Jews can do whatever they want because of the holocaust. If this were the case, almost every ethnic group would have a reason to do whatever they want. I wasn't trying to say that Israel is all good either. I don't believe that they can arive at peaceful ends by using aggessive means. They can make them stop the bombings though, and this is what I believe they are doing. They've tried negotiating, and that doesn't work. It's come to this. Finally, my HERITAGE is Jewish and I respect and love that. However, my LOYALTY lies in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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