The RichDiesel University Tutorial Questions Thread.

[multiplayernewb]

Hi all:

 

Just finished reading ALL the posts here, and I think this would be a good place to post with a few persistent questions.

 

First off, thanks a bunch to RichDiesel and all you folks here. Because of you, my first map is ALREADY starting to wow my fellow clan members, and it's not even DONE yet!

 

Anyway, here are my issues. Well, my technical issues anyway. The rest I'll save for another forum

 

Okay, I'm using JK2Radient, and making a MP map.

 

1) I know dynamic switches(such as those using func_usables) are tough at best to get working, but I was wondering if there was ANY way to set a switch, connected to a door, that does SOMETHING visual (sounds are all set, thanks) when activated, but then RETURNS TO NORMAL when the door closes. func_usables like this do not work in MP.

 

2) I want to make this a clan HQ map. I have a nice logo image, but I'm having trouble importing it into the map. I can put it onto small brushes, like doors, easily, by making a texture with the logo slapped onto it in photoshop(gimp, actually), then putting it on the brush face, and using surface inspector to make it fit, move it, etc.

 

Trouble is, this won't work so well if I wanna put it onto something larger, like a wall. If I cut a section of the brush for the wall and try the abovementioned trick, the background of my logo texture will probably NOT match the surrounding brushes, making it look fake. I suppose I could figure it out eventually, but this strikes me as being the REALLY hard way! I found the decals for the imperial and rebel CTF images, and I can slap em on walls easily. Trouble is, now I don't know how to edit them to put my own logo on 'em. Even if I can edit that shader(which I know it is), are custom shaders allowed in MP? Don't they need custom scripts, which are not allowed in MP?

 

3) After reading ALL those posts, I STILL do not know how to set up bot support! The "built-in tutorial" won't open for me. It just opens notepad and crashes. Most of the links people posted don't work. I read in the GTKRadient manual that it seems like I gotta compile the map with something called "CBSP" (I think.) What is that? Does it come with JK2Radient? Is a compile with that all that's needed to make the .aas file? Is the .aas file all that's needed for bot support?

 

4) I used the yavin waterfall shader to make a waterfall, but it's solid. Doesn't seem right. How can I make it so I can walk through it?

 

5) I do not see a checkbox for trigger_facing when I make triggers and bring up entity properties. Does this not exist in MP?

 

That's it for now, and I'm sure I'll have more later. Thanks in advance.

[Eldritch]

Originally posted by multiplayernewb

Okay, I'm using JK2Radient, and making a MP map.

Gah! First thing's first. Get the latest version of GtK Radiant and the latest version of the q3map2 compiler (newest one is 2.5.7).

 

1) Something visual? Like what? It's possible to trigger a number of things - but describe what you're trying to do, and we'll go from there.

 

2) If you want to do something like the rebel / imperial decals, you need your logo to be a 32-bit .tga (no RLE compression) with transparency. Once you have that, make a new .SHADER file with this code:

textures/yourmap/logo
{
qer_editorimage	textures/yourmap/logo
polygonOffset
q3map_nolightmap
   {
       map textures/yourmap/logo
       alphaFunc GE128
       blendFunc GL_DST_COLOR GL_SRC_COLOR
   }
}

Then add the name of that .SHADER file to your shaderlist.txt file.

This will cause your logo to act just like the rebel/imperial decals and you can put them over other textures, rather than editing existing textures with the logo image.

Custom shaders *are* allowed in MP. If you're interested in learning more, the Q3 Shader Manual is a great place to start.

 

3) Follow this excellent tutorial by Wedge. Bot routing made extremely easy!

 

4) Apply nodraw to all the other surfaces of your waterfall brush.

 

5) trigger_facing? This might be a SP entity I'm not familiar with... if you're trying to get it to face something, the only way I know of to do it in MP is to set the appropriate angle.

[multiplayernewb]

Originally posted by Eldritch

Gah! First thing's first. Get the latest version of GtK Radiant and the latest version of the q3map2 compiler (newest one is 2.5.7).

 

Does it really matter? I'm so used to JK2Radient, that I'm kinda nervous about changing things around. Besides, I heard that for compiling, you gotta open up JK2Radient for that anyway, so...

 

1) Something visual? Like what? It's possible to trigger a number of things - but describe what you're trying to do, and we'll go from there.

 

Sorry. RichDiesel's tutorial explains how to make brushes resembling switches to appear to be "on" and "off." He suggests using func_usables to do that, and gives clear instructions on how.

 

In MP, however, when I attached these to a door, I found the switch (talking cosmetically here, of course. The actual "switch," the trigger entity, works flawlessly no matter what) turned "on" when the door opened, but did NOT turn "off" when the door closed. When I tried to use it again, it turned "off" when the door opened, and when the door closed again, once again nothing happened. Any idea how to do this? I'm guessing the "closetarget" key RichDiesel mentioned doesn't work in MP. I tried Bubba's button tutorial, using one "switch" brush (not a func_usable this time, natch), but it never moved. Just made a noise. I want a switch brush/brushes in the wall by my trigger entity, linked to it, so that there is a visible change in the switch to indicate it is activated. Yeah, I've got sounds on it now (using speaker entity), but it looks kinda cheap. I'd love to find a way to make RichDiesel's on/off thingy work.

 

2) If you want to do something like the rebel / imperial decals, you need your logo to be a 32-bit .tga (no RLE compression) with transparency. Once you have that, make a new .SHADER file with this code:

textures/yourmap/logo
{
qer_editorimage	textures/yourmap/logo
polygonOffset
q3map_nolightmap
   {
       map textures/yourmap/logo
       alphaFunc GE128
       blendFunc GL_DST_COLOR GL_SRC_COLOR
   }
}

Then add the name of that .SHADER file to your shaderlist.txt file.

This will cause your logo to act just like the rebel/imperial decals and you can put them over other textures, rather than editing existing textures with the logo image.

Custom shaders *are* allowed in MP. If you're interested in learning more, the Q3 Shader Manual is a great place to start.

 

Okay, I think I've got it, but I'm still messing with it. Running into a couple of small problems.

 

The image, as a shader, works, just like the rebel/imperial logos, but I can see my floor texture through it, just a little bit.

 

Also, I'm getting some error messages in the first stage of the compile process, which I'm sure are related.

 

First I get a couple of these:

 

FloatPlane: bad normal

 

Followed closely by a couple of these:

 

Entity 0, Brush 6: Degenerate plane

 

Any thoughts?

 

3) Follow this excellent tutorial by Wedge. Bot routing made extremely easy!

 

THANK you! FINALLY! I'll get on that later on, when my map is nearly complete.

 

4) Apply nodraw to all the other surfaces of your waterfall brush.

 

Okay, I assume you know the "front" and "back" surfaces of the brush have the waterfall shader on them. I'll try nodraw on the rest.

 

5) trigger_facing? This might be a SP entity I'm not familiar with... if you're trying to get it to face something, the only way I know of to do it in MP is to set the appropriate angle.

 

No, my bad. Used the wrong terminology. I mean in the entity info for my trigger_multiple entity, RichDiesel's tut says there is a checkbox for FACING, which forces the player to actually FACE the direction the trigger is pointing, instead of just standing in the trigger area. I don't have that checkbox available. Is this something that isn't allowed in MP?

 

Bascially, I wanna make it so the player has to face the wall. I already have the trigger angled in that direction, but the player doesn't need to face that way to run the switch right now.

[Chewie Bakker]

Originally posted by multiplayernewb

Sorry. RichDiesel's tutorial explains how to make brushes resembling switches to appear to be "on" and "off." He suggests using func_usables to do that, and gives clear instructions on how.

 

In MP, however, when I attached these to a door, I found the switch (talking cosmetically here, of course. The actual "switch," the trigger entity, works flawlessly no matter what) turned "on" when the door opened, but did NOT turn "off" when the door closed. When I tried to use it again, it turned "off" when the door opened, and when the door closed again, once again nothing happened. Any idea how to do this? I'm guessing the "closetarget" key RichDiesel mentioned doesn't work in MP. I tried Bubba's button tutorial, using one "switch" brush (not a func_usable this time, natch), but it never moved. Just made a noise. I want a switch brush/brushes in the wall by my trigger entity, linked to it, so that there is a visible change in the switch to indicate it is activated. Yeah, I've got sounds on it now (using speaker entity), but it looks kinda cheap. I'd love to find a way to make RichDiesel's on/off thingy work.

 

If you're trying to use a USE_BUTTON in multiplayer (so that you have to use the 'E' key to operate it) the game won't let you. Unless someone's smart enough to see how they coded the shield floor units for MP.

 

Originally posted by multiplayernewb

No, my bad. Used the wrong terminology. I mean in the entity info for my trigger_multiple entity, RichDiesel's tut says there is a checkbox for FACING, which forces the player to actually FACE the direction the trigger is pointing, instead of just standing in the trigger area. I don't have that checkbox available. Is this something that isn't allowed in MP?

 

Bascially, I wanna make it so the player has to face the wall. I already have the trigger angled in that direction, but the player doesn't need to face that way to run the switch right now.

 

Try Key: spawnflags, Value: 2. Otherwise, you should just see "Facing" in-between "Playeronly" and "Use_Button." Well, it is in SP anyway.

 

The Force will be with you, always.

[Eldritch]

Originally posted by multiplayernewb

Does it really matter? I'm so used to JK2Radient, that I'm kinda nervous about changing things around. Besides, I heard that for compiling, you gotta open up JK2Radient for that anyway, so...

Oh, it definitely matters. There's almost no difference between the way JK2Radiant maps and the way GtKRadiant maps (but many things are much easier to do in GtK Radiant). The program looks almost exactly the same, so it doesn't really matter which editor you get, but I still suggest GtK. Trust me, you'll be glad you switched.

No matter which editor you decide to use though, you need to get that newer compiler (and if you really want to do some good looking compiles, get q3map2 toolz) because it will compile much faster and your maps will look better. Now that I think about it though, you'll have to compile using q3map2toolz if you insist on mapping with JK2 Radiant. There is a MAJOR difference though.

Okay, I think I've got it, but I'm still messing with it. Running into a couple of small problems.

 

The image, as a shader, works, just like the rebel/imperial logos, but I can see my floor texture through it, just a little bit.

The rebel/imperial logos are also slightly see-through. It has to do with the shader code applied to it. You can mess around with the code by inputting some different values (check out the Shader Manual I linked you to earlier) if you want to, but that's the same shader code Raven used for their reb/imp logos.

Also, I'm getting some error messages in the first stage of the compile process, which I'm sure are related.

 

First I get a couple of these:

 

FloatPlane: bad normal

 

Followed closely by a couple of these:

 

Entity 0, Brush 6: Degenerate plane

I'm not sure about the first one, but I doubt the second has anything to do with your shader code, since it's a brush error. Find brush 6, delete it and remake it and then see if it gives you the same error.

Okay, I assume you know the "front" and "back" surfaces of the brush have the waterfall shader on them. I'll try nodraw on the rest.

Only put it on either the front OR the back... otherwise it's going to look a little strange when you view it from the side/angle (you'll see 2 separate streams of water).

No, my bad. Used the wrong terminology. I mean in the entity info for my trigger_multiple entity, RichDiesel's tut says there is a checkbox for FACING, which forces the player to actually FACE the direction the trigger is pointing, instead of just standing in the trigger area. I don't have that checkbox available. Is this something that isn't allowed in MP?

I've seen that checkbox before, but then again I only used JK2 Radiant for about a week before I discovered GtK Radiant, so I can't remember if JK2 R had it or not.

[multiplayernewb]

Originally posted by Eldritch

Oh, it definitely matters. There's almost no difference between the way JK2Radiant maps and the way GtKRadiant maps (but many things are much easier to do in GtK Radiant). The program looks almost exactly the same, so it doesn't really matter which editor you get, but I still suggest GtK. Trust me, you'll be glad you switched.

No matter which editor you decide to use though, you need to get that newer compiler (and if you really want to do some good looking compiles, get q3map2 toolz) because it will compile much faster and your maps will look better. Now that I think about it though, you'll have to compile using q3map2toolz if you insist on mapping with JK2 Radiant. There is a MAJOR difference though.

 

I believe you. Just afraid I'm gonna fry what I've got, and break my compiler. Maybe I'll pick up the toolz for the better compile, at least.

 

The rebel/imperial logos are also slightly see-through. It has to do with the shader code applied to it. You can mess around with the code by inputting some different values (check out the Shader Manual I linked you to earlier) if you want to, but that's the same shader code Raven used for their reb/imp logos.

 

Yeah, I've read it. Very informative, and now that I've messed with shader scripts some, it makes even more sense. Still, the world of alpha channels, and thus blending with them, is a mystery to me.

 

I'm not sure about the first one, but I doubt the second has anything to do with your shader code, since it's a brush error. Find brush 6, delete it and remake it and then see if it gives you the same error.

 

Heh... I did a "find brush" and it didn't highliight anything. The 2D display moved, but I can find NOTHING wrong in that area, nor any brush it's focusing on. Weird.

 

Only put it on either the front OR the back... otherwise it's going to look a little strange when you view it from the side/angle (you'll see 2 separate streams of water).

 

Okay, I did that, and put nodraw_solid on ALL the other faces. I still can't run through it tho. I have a chamber behind it, and I wanna go through the water to get to it. Any thoughts?

 

I've seen that checkbox before, but then again I only used JK2 Radiant for about a week before I discovered GtK Radiant, so I can't remember if JK2 R had it or not.

 

JK2 definitely doesn't have it, at least in muliplayer. I suppose you're right, and I should get GTKRadient. Is it as easy as downloading, installing, and then opening up the same map I was using in JK2Radient? Does installing GTKRadient wipe out JK2Radient? In other words, if something goes wrong, can I put things back the way they were?

 

BTW, THANK you for the help! You have ALREADY helped me solve a lot of problems.

 

I'm actually runninig into a couple more little issues:

 

a)(might as well use letters this time ) I wanna set up a door so that it won't close till I hit the switch. Impossible in MP, right? I don't think the TOGGLE key/value/whatever is available.

 

b) I want to make some "toys" in a room, such as flame jets, lasers, and "lightning" surges that turn on with a switch, then turn off with the same switch, and (hopefully) turn on/off at intervals in between. Haven't tried this yet, but I imagine there is some sort of entity combination that will allow this.

 

More importantly, how do I set these entities to be "dangerous" in MP? The splashdamage key doesn't seem to work on fx_runner entities in mp. A trigger_hurt entity is fine for "static" stuff (like a fireplace), but what about stuff I wanna turn on/off?

[Eldritch]

Originally posted by multiplayernewb

I believe you. Just afraid I'm gonna fry what I've got, and break my compiler. Maybe I'll pick up the toolz for the better compile, at least.

Break your compiler? You get a new compiler when you install GtK... nevermind. You do what you like. I'll find you an example of something compiled with sof2map compared to q3map2.

Heh... I did a "find brush" and it didn't highliight anything. The 2D display moved, but I can find NOTHING wrong in that area, nor any brush it's focusing on. Weird.

Then open up the .map file with notepad and delete the brush in there. Just erase the information that corresponds to that brush number.

Okay, I did that, and put nodraw_solid on ALL the other faces. I still can't run through it tho. I have a chamber behind it, and I wanna go through the water to get to it. Any thoughts?

That's because nodraw_solid is... solid. You need nodraw_nonsolid or caulk_nonsolid to walk through it. I probably should've specified which nodraw to use, but I thought you'd figure it out.

JK2 definitely doesn't have it, at least in muliplayer. I suppose you're right, and I should get GTKRadient. Is it as easy as downloading, installing, and then opening up the same map I was using in JK2Radient?

Yes.

Does installing GTKRadient wipe out JK2Radient? In other words, if something goes wrong, can I put things back the way they were?

No, but it's not recommended to have them both on your system. I'd uninstall JK2Radiant, then install GtK. But I still wouldn't use GtK to compile - I'd use Q3Map2Toolz with the latest version of q3map2 (2.5.7 - you can check the link I posted earlier).

 

a)(might as well use letters this time ) I wanna set up a door so that it won't close till I hit the switch. Impossible in MP, right? I don't think the TOGGLE key/value/whatever is available.

No, you should just be able to set up the door with the "start_open" key so it won't close until you trigger it. After that, you can have it open back up after a certain amount of time, or you can leave it down indefinitely.

b) I want to make some "toys" in a room, such as flame jets, lasers, and "lightning" surges that turn on with a switch, then turn off with the same switch, and (hopefully) turn on/off at intervals in between. Haven't tried this yet, but I imagine there is some sort of entity combination that will allow this.

Just connect the trigger to whatever you want it to fire. You can fire multiple things with one trigger. So you can have lasers, flame jets, etc all connected to one trigger.

As for the on/off intervals, you just have to set those with the properties of the individual entities.

More importantly, how do I set these entities to be "dangerous" in MP? The splashdamage key doesn't seem to work on fx_runner entities in mp. A trigger_hurt entity is fine for "static" stuff (like a fireplace), but what about stuff I wanna turn on/off?

Are you sure SplashDamage isn't working? I've never had any problems with it in MP.

[multiplayernewb]

Okay, I did as you suggested... downloaded GTKRadient, opened up editor just fine to fix my stupid mistake with the waterfall (thanks for that).

 

Now, I downloaded that compiler you mentioned way up at the top there (your first reply to me) and installed it. I did ALMOST everything it said (the readme was telling me to put those two shaders into the scripts file, but my shaders go in the shader file ????)

 

Anyway, in Radient, I did a normal compile, by clicking on BSP in the toolbar, selecting BSP Fullvis and letting it go.

 

Now, my map is ALL screwed up! All the lighting is washed out (all bright, no individual sources) and a certain area where there is water is SOLID(I can walk on water!) and I can see through it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down to a room far below!

 

Fact, the only thing that seems to be fixed is the waterfall

 

I assume I need to use the new compiler, but I don't know how to work it. I tried double-clicking on the icon in the folder it made when I unzipped it, and a DOS window opened up just long enough to display an error message, then vanish! WTF?

[multiplayernewb]

Okay, fixed a couple things. The water is no longer see-through, but it's still "solid" now. In addition, there are two textures (I think they are shaders) that Radient suddenly can't find the images for. Dunno why. I haven't moved them. Anyway, other than those two things, we're back to normal so far. I do like the customized compiling, but the map so far doesn't look or feel any different, and yes, I used the custom compiler you mentioned.

 

Any thoughts on the new bugs?

[Eldritch]

Originally posted by multiplayernewb

Anyway, in Radient, I did a normal compile, by clicking on BSP in the toolbar, selecting BSP Fullvis and letting it go.

You don't compile with Radiant if you've got q3map2Toolz. You use that program to compile (you don't even have to have Radiant open).

In addition, BSP FullVIS is a compile option for sof2map - you can't use that if you've specified using q3map2 as your compiler. Stick with the ones towards the top of the menu that say "Test" if you want to compile in Radiant, but the best choice is still to compile using q3map2Toolz.

 

Doing one of those 2 things will probably take care of the washed out lighting.

and a certain area where there is water is SOLID(I can walk on water!) and I can see through it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down to a room far below!

This is probably due to the fact that surfaces can get "shuffled" around during a compile. Are you using nodraw_nonsolid on the 4 remaining surfaces for the water brush (only the top and bottom should be textured with it)?

If you're still having problems after, let me know - a couple people have posted shader code for something called caulk_water (or nodraw_water, depending on who you talk to) and I can give you that.

I assume I need to use the new compiler, but I don't know how to work it. I tried double-clicking on the icon in the folder it made when I unzipped it, and a DOS window opened up just long enough to display an error message, then vanish! WTF?

LOL. Double clicking the icon will run the compiler, but unless you tell it how to compile (and which map it's compiling) it's got no business being open, which is why that DOS window isn't open very long.

 

Here's the q3Map2 Toolz manual, which will show you how to set it up with the new compiler. Sorry, I should've given this to you earlier.

 

What 2 textures is it missing?

[multiplayernewb]

Originally posted by Eldritch

You don't compile with Radiant if you've got q3map2Toolz. You use that program to compile (you don't even have to have Radiant open).

In addition, BSP FullVIS is a compile option for sof2map - you can't use that if you've specified using q3map2 as your compiler. Stick with the ones towards the top of the menu that say "Test" if you want to compile in Radiant, but the best choice is still to compile using q3map2Toolz.

 

Doing one of those 2 things will probably take care of the washed out lighting.

 

Yeah, I spoke too soon. I figured it out last night, and I admit I like how you can compile without Radient even being open (tho it usually is anyway). I also REALLY like how you can devmap right from the compiler, which saves a step or two.

 

This is probably due to the fact that surfaces can get "shuffled" around during a compile. Are you using nodraw_nonsolid on the 4 remaining surfaces for the water brush (only the top and bottom should be textured with it)?

 

No, I'm not, which wasn't a problem before. I'm guessing GTKRadient is a little more picky, and have already guessed this may be the problem. I'll fix it, and write back if it still doesn't work.

 

Here's the q3Map2 Toolz manual, which will show you how to set it up with the new compiler. Sorry, I should've given this to you earlier.

 

Yeah thanks, already found it the hard way. For what it's worth, it's a good manual, and the interface on the compiler is pretty easy to understand.

 

What 2 textures is it missing?

 

Both are from the "yavin" directory. One is the illusion texture (which I'm thinking of not using anyway) and the other is the "waterfall" shader. Yes, they are both shaders, but so's the water shader I'm using in the same map(one of the water shaders from yavin. Forget which) and it looks fine. I'm really stumped on this one. In the editor, it says the image is not found, and when I load the map the text window below the editor indicates it can't find the image. I think the shader itself is fine, but for some reason It's not finding the companion image. It can't be that Radient can't find anything in the yavin directory, because half my map has yavin-based textures, all of which are coming in just fine. I also know I didn't touch any of the texture directories.

 

Now, when I installed Radient, and selected Jedi Knght 2, I recall seeing it installing stuff into directories that match my JK2 directories. Is it possible it wrote over the yavin directory and didn't include those? If so, I should be able to pull them out of assets0.pk3 and replace 'em no problem, but still... ever hear of that happening?

 

I don't know if it matters, but I'm havng similar trouble with a couple of the trees. When I look at them in the editor, they say "shader not found," and when loading the map the text window in the editor says it can't find the md3s for them (they are also from yavin). Didn't think to mention this, since after compile, they seem to work fine.

[Eldritch]

Originally posted by multiplayernewb

Now, when I installed Radient, and selected Jedi Knght 2, I recall seeing it installing stuff into directories that match my JK2 directories. Is it possible it wrote over the yavin directory and didn't include those? If so, I should be able to pull them out of assets0.pk3 and replace 'em no problem, but still... ever hear of that happening?

 

I don't know if it matters, but I'm havng similar trouble with a couple of the trees. When I look at them in the editor, they say "shader not found," and when loading the map the text window in the editor says it can't find the md3s for them (they are also from yavin). Didn't think to mention this, since after compile, they seem to work fine.

Interesting. Those two problems are related, since it's apparently having trouble locating some files in the Yavin folder.

Pull the files out of the assests0.pk3 wouldn't help - since if they're IN that pak, they'd appear as normal. Check to make sure they're there - if not, you'll have to reinstall JK2.

 

Might be a side effect of switching editors - I'm not sure. It's never happened to me.

[multiplayernewb]

Yeah, well it's happening to me. The files, models etc. are all in the correct places. All the "ordinary" textures load just fine. It's just these three things: temple_illusion, a couple of the models for some of the trees (but not all. others are working), and the waterfall shader, which points to the same texture as my water. Now, the water shader works, but the waterfall doesn't. Figure that one out

 

Meanwhile, I put nodraw_nonsolid on the lateral faces of ALL the water brushes. Net result: I can only get one to work, and even that one doesn't make splashing noises when the character's in it. This is just what I was afraid of happening with switching editors. Argh! PLEASE help!

[Eldritch]

Originally posted by multiplayernewb

Yeah, well it's happening to me. The files, models etc. are all in the correct places. All the "ordinary" textures load just fine. It's just these three things: temple_illusion, a couple of the models for some of the trees (but not all. others are working), and the waterfall shader, which points to the same texture as my water.

All I can suggest is to reinstall JK2. Short of that, I'm not sure what's wrong.

Now, the water shader works, but the waterfall doesn't. Figure that one out Meanwhile, I put nodraw_nonsolid on the lateral faces of ALL the water brushes. Net result: I can only get one to work, and even that one doesn't make splashing noises when the character's in it. This is just what I was afraid of happening with switching editors. Argh! PLEASE help!

Ok, first off - this water error can occur no matter which editor you're using. There's no need to handicap yourself just because you think JK2Radiant won't do it. Without getting into too complicated an explanation, when a map is compiled it can shuffle the surface info of a brush around. So if your waterfall brush gets shuffled so that it has nodraw_nonsolid info, you will SEE the waterfall texture but you won't splash through it like water.

You might have more luck making it as a patch rather than a brush, but if you want to use brushes, here's an earlier post from Wedge on how to make a "nodraw_water" shader for the sides of your water brushes.

Originally posted by wedge2211

[...]Or, better yet, make yourself your own "nodraw_water" shader that has the following surfaceparms:

 

nodraw

nonsolid

water

[Kengo]

Could you possibly get this thread stuck up again? I know its not as active now as in days of old, but its like the single most informative editing thread ever on these forums. I'll wager about 90% of any questions people might have when they get into mapping can be found here!

 

If someone had the time and the inclination, they could collate all the knowledge found on this one thread, work it into a book, have it bound in a leatherback style and sell copies for a bucketload!

[Lil Killa]

Originally posted by Kengo

If someone had the time and the inclination, they could collate all the knowledge found on this one thread, work it into a book, have it bound in a leatherback style and sell copies for a bucketload!

 

An online database witha nifty search feature might be of more use.

[KMan]

Originally posted by Kengo

Could you possibly get this thread stuck up again?

 

There is a link to this in the thread second from the top. That's why it isn't stuck anymore.

[Kengo]

Originally posted by KMan

There is a link to this in the thread second from the top. That's why it isn't stuck anymore.

 

Ah right, yeh thats tidier.

 

Well, I thought I'd come back here for my 1000th post, being as this is why I came to LF in the first place, for all the help provided in the JO mapping forum. Seems kinda weird to see it so empty these days, if hardly surprising with most people having moved to JA mapping. Ah, its like some kind of forum archaeology digging through the layers of this thread to find ancient ideas and problem fixes from people, some of whom have vanished from the editing World. Seems just a little sad how people all congregate in one place for a while then go their seperate ways, but a time spanning thread like this helps to tie it all together. I think I forgot why I came to LF in the first place at some point, but its good to be reminded. If you ever check this Rich, thanks, and thanks to everyone who helped in this thread. Ah, nostalgia

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confusing forum...

 

1) how do i make cameras for multiplayer levels?

 

 

cameras as in:

 

when you look into a screen on the map you can see another place

 

in singleplayer it put the camera model next to to real camera to make it more realistic..how do i mak the actual camera part????

[Crash_Overload]

Whenevere I try to Compile a Map (BSP) I can get all the other files eccept the map.bsp... so when i try to load it using the console, I get the message asying "Can't laod map, couldn't find map.bsp" How do i fix this? If this isue has already been handled AND SOLVED or just handled, post a link or e-mail me, or both, thanx.

 

I quite playing JK2 beacsue of that... pissed me off... and now 3 eyars latter, system upgrade an all, same problem.

[Lil Killa]

First make sure you're doing a compile with the -bsp comand in it.

 

It looks like your map has a major leak(s) or various other problems which is preventing the creation of a bsp file.

[Crash_Overload]

No leaks, nad I am going into BSP menu option then - FullVise, and I tried every otehr one...

[Crash_Overload]

And yes I have Tried Re-installing Everything, in Every Order.

[GL_Niels]

check your other thread:

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?p=1914041&posted=1#post1914041

i think that gives the answer

[lauser]

check your other thread:

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?p=1914041&posted=1#post1914041

i think that gives the answer

 

After a year of no posts you post an answer here? Just let it die already!