zerowingzero Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 Do you bow in duel servers? I know it's a "cool" thing to do, as it makes you feel like a "jedi", but i really have no patence for it,especially when i'm in a 10 person line waiting for a duel. I personally don't attack people who are bowing,i just tell them that the next time we play,don't bow. I think the problem is that most newbs think they HAVE to bow,which is dumb. I once had a person who with saber holstered, DEMANDED that i bow before we played! demanded! Well i for one don't care if you bow in private duels in FFA servers, but when your waiting an extra 15 seconds per person for no reason, it pisses me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoxictd Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 Yeah...I used to bow, but it's pretty much pointless now. That could just be because I play CTF all the time, lately. Every now and then... I'll be running to get my flag back, bump into some idiot, and he'll turn his saber off and bow to me. Sorry...Don't have time for this....Backslash!! Don't know what's up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda_623 Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 If someone makes a gesture to bow first then I bow. Otherwise, I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 I don't see anything wrong with bowing but I do say this: Always wait to see what your opponent does first. I was dfa'ed once while bowing and that was the first and very last time! He got kicked for it anyway. I bow if bowed to and if you don't bow, fair enough, it doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 I always bow, but just enough so I can still see my opponets feet. If he charges me I am usually able to avoid him that way and we just start the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCobra Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 shutup an fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druid Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 Originally posted by DarthCobra shutup an fight hehe, mind if I bow 1st ?...saber on of course *LOL* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCobra Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 Never take your eye's off your opponent. He might be a darksider and have other things in mind. Hate is power! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druid Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 Originally posted by DarthCobra Never take your eye's off your opponent. Yes, I agree with you on that one. I always bow at a distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twins of Doom Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 i bow while pressing the "z" and "x" keys getting either absorb or push or pull ready, if they try to DFA me i'll push em, if they try to come up hacking me i'll either push them or pull them to the ground, if they use force on me i'll use absorb it really surprises them when they do a DFA on you, and they end up finishing in about the same spot they began:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csebal Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 IMO: I never attack someone, who turns his saber off at the start of the duel, until he turned it back on... Personally i always examine the tactics of my opponents carefully, so most of the time, i know when to except to be dfa-ed during i bow. (50% of the time, it means the end of the match for them anyway - sure... im a backstab noob) I dont await others to bow before me, but i always bow if the other side lets me do it (not because its cool, but coz i think it clearly tells the other side, that im ready to fight) Anyway: on my server, its a set rule, that u have to bow before u start a fight, exceptionally because of what i said earlier (the telling part). And while i never kick players ignoring this rule, i stictly punish those, who attack players trying to bow. The point is: everyone should respect the other player: so 1) if u dont wanna bow, do not bow, but dont hinder the other side if he feels thats right, so dont request him not to do it either. 2) if u would like to bow, then feel free to do it, but always have an eye on your opponent, if u dont wanna be slaughtered. 3) Generally: turn off ur saber at the start of each duel, and dont attack, until both of u turn it back on. Thats the clearest way to tell eachother, that u r ready. thats how it works for me, and on my servers. CsEBaL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 I turn off my saber, stand at a *safe* distance and do a quick nod to the ground, sometimes a crouch bow if I feel like it - or if the opposition looks very insistent on doing it that way. If my foe attacks, I'm usually quick enough to flick out that saber and fight back, but if he gets me before I'm ready I just suck it up and fight that little more dirty than usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twins of Doom Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 if its a FF server and they attack me while i bow i say to myself "fine, you wanna play that way? we'll play that way" then i pull em to the ground and backsweep them, but first i play with them a little bit;) kind of like a cat that catches it food, still plays with it:) either that or i'll just become a temporary force whore and lightning their ass down if its a NF server and they attack me while i bow i say the same thing to them then i'll step back, they'll generally come charging me, i'll turn around and do a medium stance backsweep or i'll start a kick war if jump is enabled:D if you attack while my saber is off, or i bow, i'm gunna kill ya a lot dirtier than usual...then i'll kick you from the server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel_pk Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 yes, i really only bow just before a duel (a real duel, in ffa mode) - otherwise you're wasting your time, and probably risking getting your or your opponents' ass backslashed while you're crouching and staring at the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallakai Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 I bow, but do it quickly, keeping my eyes on my opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Nigel: I know that bowing in the "duel gametype" is a waste of time since your both supposed to be ready - BUT, 1) Bowing gives the combatants the time to get into position, 2) Bowing removes the feel that you're only playing to earn frags, not to learn anything from your fight -since it makes it more ceremonial and thus hopefully will convert a few of the cs noobs around. 3) Bowing is a sign of readiness - on some duel levels you can actually catch your opponent pretty fast with his feet off the ground, so to speak. 4) Bowing allows both combatants to choose the most appropiate fighting location - removing the wretched "cornerfight syndrome". 5) Bowing allows me to check out the "mentality" of my foe before the actual swordfighting. But I agree that bowing "to uphold the virtues of chivalry" or any deep**** argument like that is a waste of time. It is solely for the above reasons that i bow before fighting. Now, dragging out a fight by fleeing or fooling around incessantly - THERE'S the real problem, but that is another topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_kool Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Originally posted by lexx I don't see anything wrong with bowing but I do say this: Always wait to see what your opponent does first. I was dfa'ed once while bowing and that was the first and very last time! He got kicked for it anyway. I bow if bowed to and if you don't bow, fair enough, it doesn't bother me. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegy Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 I find it laughable that people get mad at someone for getting into the spirit of playing the game and choosing to bow. I find it just as laughable though when they insist that their opponnent has to bow to them as well, and refuse to fight when they don't bow. I generally nod back if I'm bowed to, all Boba Fett-like. Or I'll taunt since that sounds kinda Sithy too. If they don't bow, then cool. Onto the fighting. But the only real way to avoid getting your ass handed to you while in the midst of bowing is to simply wait for everyone else to bow first. That way you won't be caught off guard and is it really going to ruin your whole day because you didn't bow before a couple of your matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rastigi Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 To me, bowing is not something that should be eliminated, just something that should be done with caution. In an FFA server, bowing will probably just get you slain by someone who you didn't see, attacking you in your moment of weakness. But I think that bowing does have its place in a duel. When two jedi are fighting each other, there should be a certain amount of respect for skills. Even sith lords recognize power, and while they may not think that anyone merits a full crouch-bow, most of them will at least acknowledge with a nod of the head. Bowing also allows both players a moment to focus their feelings. Little rituals like this allow you to collect yourself and focus on your objective (outliving your opponent). If your opponent doesn't give you this chance, however, then you simply eliminate him. 'Always keep your eye on the ball....' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Darth Vega* Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 I will never bow to an opponent. Ever. Sith don't bow. The most they will get is a taunt from me, but usually a cold hard stare. When somebody bows to me with saber lowered I will throw my saber at them while I press my bind for saying "You are unwise to lower your defenses!" Some people feel more "jedi" like by bowing. I feel more "sith" like by not bowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETEYKing Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 I bow all the time. The thing is, i want to be DFAed. I have a counter for it. I roll back for 1 second so he misses and then i air lundge.Botta Boom Botta Bing, 25 health left with the DFAer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyKnight Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 Sheesh, would some of you guys READ the title of the post!?!?!? We don't give a flying f*** that you don't bow in FFA & CTF games, cos you're too busy ass-swipin' instead. And who would want to bow in those games? Soon as you go to crouch, you'll only get back-stabbed in the ass. In DUEL it takes, what? 7 seconds to bow! So that nonce who said he hates to wait ??? Go join a FFA game and spam some moves there. For those who don't believe in bowing, just gesture at your bowing opponent and then get it on! And for those lamers who DFA a bowing opponent, well done, 1 kill to you. <sarcastic applause> Next time around your mincemeat. Finally, for that nobski who wouldn't fight till his opponent bowed, GROW UP!!! You bow to show respect for your opponent. You can't demand respect back, you have to earn it. You don't have to bow to everyone. Simple huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Darth Vega* Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Are you really that retarded or do you have to try? Some of us like the not bowing thing just as some like the bowing thing. Whatever floats your boat. And showing respect to your opponent? WTF? It's a ****ing computer game man. You don't know the meaning of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Darth vega, watch your mouth... Yeah, whatever floats your boat, I can agree with that, but it appears you are the one who don't understand the meaning of respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyKnight Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Originally posted by *Darth Vega* And showing respect to your opponent? WTF? It's a ****ing computer game man. You don't know the meaning of the word. Arggghh, Big Bad *Darth V@gina* or whatever you want to call yourself. It IS a game, CORRECT! No arguments there! So all you Sith guys and Darth Maul_x's who think they're all too mean & moody like Darth Maul not to bow to anyone, you carry on NOT bowing then. I've no problem with that. Whereas myself, and a lot of other people, like to bow in this GAME for our own reasons. So don't assume for 1 bit that we're taking it too seriously. Bringing in a bit of etiquette isn't such a big deal? So if I duel someone for the 1st time I always bow, if they spam or do other lame things then next time round I won't bother, cos they ain't worth it. And as for me not knowing the meaning of the word???? What the hell are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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