lukeiamyourdad Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Originally posted by Tyrion and simwiz ok...it's a good idea windu the rebublic gunship 1 health 0 armor 1 damage can carry only one guy is a UU unit If your reading my post Windu it means that you will know that i am joining the fight against a gunship UU. Besides i think you're beginning to be too obsessive about the matter. almost nobody supports you idea and most of us want you to just stop writing about it. And I will ask you this , why should only the republic have a armed transport? Ever played Tie Fighter ? Ever heard of the Stormtooper transport? If it's no then you should know that a stormtrooper transport is so kind of gunship( not the same but it has cannons and can shoot rockets)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Originally posted by Tyrion ok...it's a good idea windu the rebublic gunship 1 health 0 armor 1 damage can carry only one guy is a UU unit hey you said as long as it was in there you wouldnt mind:D And a creation cost of only 1 carbon and 1 food, with a build speed of 1 second (with only 1 health, it doesn't take a long time to build it). I'd use it, depending on how fast it moves... Course, I wouldn't call it a gunship... more like Jango/Boba's backpack. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 That was actually really funny! Busted out loud at that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W0RF Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 The Empire should have a new Unique Unit, Boba Fett! It's exactly like a Bounty Hunter, only except it's not! Coz you see Boba Fett is not really like a bounty hunter, we see Boba in the movie flying the Slave I, but we never see IG-88 or any of the other bounty hunters flying a ship! So they must not have a ship since I didn't see it in the movie! So that makes Boba Fett different and since he didn't work for any of the other civs he should be a UU and the only civ to get another UU added. And to make him different than a normal bounty hunter, he should have like +30 damage vs. Jedi and be invulnerable to laser troops, and he should have a jetpack upgrade you can research that will allow him to walk and be ground, or fly and be air! And when he's air he can attack both air and ground and destroy buildings in 2 hits, but when he's on the ground he can't hit buildings but he can like tie up laser troops with his grappling rope so they can't attack anybody. And I think LucasArts should figure out how to balance it coz I can't be bothered with how the game plays, it is more important to me that it is identical to the movies in every way. So that's my new Empire UU idea. I am going to create 5 more threads talking about what a great idea this is, and beg DMUK to make it a forum poll, and email LucasArts 5 times every day until they read it and find out what a l33t idea I have and add it to the next expansion, or SWGB 24, just so long as they put it in there. If anyone is this post is just for and so don't get or like a drugged-up : or you'll end up like or even and the most you'll get from me is and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted August 25, 2002 Author Share Posted August 25, 2002 In respect to the gunship as a UU, ask yourselves the following questions. 1. Why is the Airspeeder a Rebel UU? 2. Why is the A-wing a Rebel UU? 3. Why is the Probot an Empire UU? 4. Why is the Dark Trooper an Empire UU? 5. Why is the Destroyer Droid a TF UU? 6. Why is the Royal Crusader a Naboo UU? 7. Why is the Fambaa shield generator a Gungan UU? 8. Why is the Geonosian Warrior a Confederacy UU? 9. Why is the Jedi Starfighter a Republic UU? 10. Why are the Confederacy animals UU's? and finally 11. Why shouldn't the Gunship be a Republic UU? I honestly do not see why you guys are opposing the gunship as a Republic Unique Unit. Something 'unique' is, in this game, something that no other civ has. This applies to all of the previous UU's, and it also applies to the Gunship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy_Of_Sith Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 Newsflash Darth Windu! The republic already has the gunship! Do you know why it's unique even though it's a generic fighter? Because no other civ has it's art! So be happy that you can even see a gunship on your screen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL ShadowJedi Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 A gunship sounds cool but u already have 1....... i reckon to make it better in UU is to make the advanced fighter for the republic have missile capability after all we did see it in ep 2! just it takes a long time to reload. In my opinion naboo shud get upgraded i mean they shudnt be that crap!! they shud have better men at least and there UU should be the royal starship cos i love the design of it the empire shud not be able to have assault mechs! but instead have the AT-AT as there UU which has 25 attack as standard 500 HP and decent armour +it can be upgraded. And it wont be unbalanced ppl cos other civs qud still be able to build assault mechs. I would also like to see the airspeeder have a tow cable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simwiz2 Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 Originally posted by W0RF The Empire should have a new Unique Unit, Boba Fett! It's exactly like a Bounty Hunter, only except it's not! Coz you see Boba Fett is not really like a bounty hunter, we see Boba in the movie flying the Slave I, but we never see IG-88 or any of the other bounty hunters flying a ship! So they must not have a ship since I didn't see it in the movie! So that makes Boba Fett different and since he didn't work for any of the other civs he should be a UU and the only civ to get another UU added. And to make him different than a normal bounty hunter, he should have like +30 damage vs. Jedi and be invulnerable to laser troops, and he should have a jetpack upgrade you can research that will allow him to walk and be ground, or fly and be air! And when he's air he can attack both air and ground and destroy buildings in 2 hits, but when he's on the ground he can't hit buildings but he can like tie up laser troops with his grappling rope so they can't attack anybody. And I think LucasArts should figure out how to balance it coz I can't be bothered with how the game plays, it is more important to me that it is identical to the movies in every way. So that's my new Empire UU idea. I am going to create 5 more threads talking about what a great idea this is, and beg DMUK to make it a forum poll, and email LucasArts 5 times every day until they read it and find out what a l33t idea I have and add it to the next expansion, or SWGB 24, just so long as they put it in there. :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Windu, I am not opposed to the idea of having a true gunship but as long as every civs get some kind of gunship for them. The other unique units did not unbalance the game because they were not that powerful(except the destroyer droid but they changed that in clone campaigns) Originally posted by Darth Windu In respect to the gunship as a UU, ask yourselves the following questions. 1. Why is the Airspeeder a Rebel UU? 2. Why is the A-wing a Rebel UU? 3. Why is the Probot an Empire UU? 4. Why is the Dark Trooper an Empire UU? 5. Why is the Destroyer Droid a TF UU? 6. Why is the Royal Crusader a Naboo UU? 7. Why is the Fambaa shield generator a Gungan UU? 8. Why is the Geonosian Warrior a Confederacy UU? 9. Why is the Jedi Starfighter a Republic UU? 10. Why are the Confederacy animals UU's? 1. Because they need an anti-mech unit 'cause their own mechs are not strong enough. 2.I have no idea why they put it there.Probably for a fast aircraft. 3.Lowcost scout with better LOS.Besides, you're not going to win a war with probot! 4.Who knows why? I think they suck because they're only good against troopers. 5.They just needed a big bad anti-trooper shielded unit and it does not unbalance the game because they cost 50 carbon and 150 nova. 6.Look at number one. 7.For some defensive purpose. 8.Look at number4. 9.Who knows why?Because the jedis needed a fighter of course. 10.The geonosian warrior was not enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted August 26, 2002 Author Share Posted August 26, 2002 luke - you completely missed the point i was trying to make. The asnwer to those questions should be 'because they are unique'. No other civ in the game has anything like them, which is why they are UU's. The Gunship is a weapon unique to the Republic, so why shouldn't they get it as a UU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W0RF Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 It already exists in the game as a generic fighter. THAT is its presence in the game. There's no need to reinvent the wheel just to make sure every unit in every movie is in the game in exactly the way it was utilized. What you seem to fail to understand is that these people don't hate the gunship. They simply happen to think the game IS FINE THE WAY IT IS! Or at least as well as can be expected, given the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Then I ask you something The AT-AT is unique to the Empire The X-Wing is unique to the Rebels The N-1 is unique to the naboo The MTT is unique to the Trade Federation The AT-ST is unique to the Empire The AAT is unique to the Trade Federation Did you ever see anybody else using these weapons?(except Chewbacca and his captured AT-ST) Then why if everybody has an Adv Fighter, an assault mech, etc. and we know that it is unique to the civ (jeez, ever see any gungan piloting an X-Wing or an AT-AT?!) why should the republic be the only civ to get an gunship or some kind of? They only put one or two unique units to make the game a little funnier that's all. And look at all of them. Their not "armed transports shooting big bad rockets and blowing everything in their paths". They are not at all too strong and that's the point. Your gunship would be too strong!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simwiz2 Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad Then I ask you something The AT-AT is unique to the Empire The X-Wing is unique to the Rebels The N-1 is unique to the naboo The MTT is unique to the Trade Federation The AT-ST is unique to the Empire The AAT is unique to the Trade Federation Thank you! Maybe now Windu will understand that in a game with generic units, none of these are UU's, just like the Gunship isn't a UU. Though it's very likely he will miss the point entirely. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simwiz2 Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Windu I honestly do not see why you guys are opposing the gunship as a Republic Unique Unit. I honestly do not see why you continue your inane drivel about how the Gunship would be such a great UU. It wouldn't be. It has no place in gameplay, so kindly shut your trap about it. Please? Many people are tired of hearing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad Their not "armed transports shooting big bad rockets and blowing everything in their paths". They are not at all too strong and that's the point. Your gunship would be too strong!!!!! I don't know what version of the gunship you're talking about, but it's certainly not the one Windu (or myself for that matter) am proposing. We're totally against turning the gunship into a miniturized version of the air cruiser... that's NOT what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be a transport that can provide air cover. While we're at it, why should the AT-AT be the only assault mech to attack air? Because it creates some diversity between the civs and henceforth affects gameplay. THAT is why the gunship would be limited to the Republic... Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 I've got a little math for you guys. Estimate your IQ (dont flatter yourself Windu). Now, for every time you posted on this thread, subtract 1 point (2 points if your post was in favor of the gunship UU). This is your current IQ. That puts many forumers (Windu, Viceroy, ect.) in the negatives. Windu: 1. Strong anti-mech for those weak in mechs. 2. Rebel air superiority 3. So they dont tie up mech factories with scouts 4. Help the emps lacking troopers 5. Beef up the TF mech arsenal 6. Naboo needs to make up for little heavies somehow. 7. Because it doesnt fit anywhere else and was a good idea 8. Trooper support 9. It was in the movies and gives the reps much needed recon 10. LA had a brain fart. You seem to have alot of them too. 11. There are 5 threads chaulk full of reasons. Take your pick. Also, nobody gives a damn. WORF, simwiz, etc. He will never learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W0RF Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 I agree SithMaster. At first I opposed Windu's idea for the gunship, complete with reasons. At this point my interest in this thread has devolved to the point where I no longer have any interest in entertaining his drivel any longer. My perspective on this thread is now: :bored: :bored: :bored: :bored: :bored: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 Originally posted by Sithmaster_821 I've got a little math for you guys. Estimate your IQ (dont flatter yourself Windu). Now, for every time you posted on this thread, subtract 1 point (2 points if your post was in favor of the gunship UU). This is your current IQ. That puts many forumers (Windu, Viceroy, ect.) in the negatives. Should people deduct 3 points for every time someone said something that was personally insulting...? Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 Kryllith,allright I exagerate a little bit but don't get me wrong 'cause I want a gunship but not as UU. The republic is already strong enough. They have the most powerful jedis, the second best air force and the fastest production of troopers. I think that gives them a big advantage over many other civ(I mean they have good air and ground forces). I don't see why the republic needs another UU (unlike the rebels, the empire and the confederacy, a gunship UU would give them a huge advantage on everybody else, what I mean is you just won't win a war with probots, a-wings and animals while you could possibly win with gunships UU that can also carry a small amount of troopers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 sithmaster, you dont think an air speeder is an anti-mech? all that thing is good for is ripping mechs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad Kryllith,allright I exagerate a little bit but don't get me wrong 'cause I want a gunship but not as UU. The republic is already strong enough. They have the most powerful jedis, the second best air force and the fastest production of troopers. I think that gives them a big advantage over many other civ(I mean they have good air and ground forces). I don't see why the republic needs another UU (unlike the rebels, the empire and the confederacy, a gunship UU would give them a huge advantage on everybody else, what I mean is you just won't win a war with probots, a-wings and animals while you could possibly win with gunships UU that can also carry a small amount of troopers). I don't mind the Republic being the only civilization to have the gunship, but I would like more diversity in the other civilizations as well. I'm all for having the other civilizations receive more in the way of UU's or in modifications of current units to make them unique (like giving the confed AAM the ability to fire at mechs/heavies). I do agree that by just giving the Republic another UU it could unbalance the game. Of course, it depends on how much is done to counterbalance the Republic strength. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 can't argue with that Kryllith:D It has nothing to do with what i am saying im just trying out smilies:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted August 28, 2002 Share Posted August 28, 2002 Should people deduct 3 points for every time someone said something that was personally insulting...? I was going to do that but that would put us all in the negatives and that kinda ruins the point. pbguy, i was a bit brief i know but i meant that the rebs get a strong anitmech unit cause they lack strong mechs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 i dunno... i kinda thought the air speeder WAS a strong anti-mech. it's avg vs other air and ground units, but it cuts through mechs each. ever try them vs heavy assaults? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 *smacks self in head for not reading Sithmaster_821's post right...* NOW i get it... DUH... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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