Weapon X Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 ok, i might get flamed for this (most likely will) but i think attack of the clones was the best of all of the movies, it is my favorite movie of all time and i don't care what people think, but if you don't like them/ think they have more bad parts than good, then don't watch them, i love these movies, i grew up with the OT and now my nephew can grow up w/the PT, bad acting? give me a break, bad acting is that titanic CAST (except billy zane, he's a badass) ever seen ANY van damme movies? that's bad acting, but most EVERY star wars actor has had a great movie in my mind, ford, hammill, mcgregor, mr. james earl jones, portman, the entire OT cast in fact, and a giant majority of the PT cast, the story has been in lucas's head for almost 30 years and it is a story that is centered toward both kids AND adults so don't badmouth it because there was a part that kids laugh and you think it's stupid so unless your gonna go rewrite 1, 2, 3(i know someone will find something bad about it), 4, 5, & 6 with better actors/acting dialouge (sp?), special effects, and make your actors put emotion into their lines SHUT THE **** UP!!! i'm tired of hearing people bad mouth an idea they would NEVER have thought up, that was shared with them by a man who cared about the community (he did in the beginning, i don't know about now) so everyone who has a problem with these movies keep your comments to yourself or express them to your friends offline, i'll bet half of you registered accounts are above 25 yrs old with nothing better to do than badmouth movies that quite frankly weren't made for you i'm only 16 and a "newbie" to these threads with only 40 votes or so, but i've been reading posts for some time and i'm quite tired of it so anyone who's gonna bad mouth me for sticking up for these great movies then drag your fat or skinny ass (whichever you are) over to wyoming and i'll kick it up and down the street for you because i grew up with these, still am, and i don't like people badmouthing this stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 I've read this something like 3times and I still don't understand what the hell your talking about. So if ep:2 is your fave movie ever, congratulations but everyone has different opinions on the movie and if people don't agree with you then deal with it and get over it coz it's an opinion, just like your opinion is it's the best movie of all time blah blah blah, there are plenty of people who think it's crap. I don't really see why you needed a poll about your thread, I must be missing something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle d'Tana Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 I agree with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kryllith Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Personally, I love the saga and I've grown up with it since I saw Star Wars in theatres during it's initial release. The individual movies have their highs and lows, but overall I find them excellent. For that matter, I'd consider myself near the top of the list when it comes to defending the story and the quality of these movies. I also believe that if you flat out don't like the movies, then you shouldn't watch them. However, I also believe that people have the right to express their opinions as they see fit. They have the right to point out things that irritate them or gripe about perceived inconsistancies. Personally, I prefer it when they do it constructively, since constructive criticism is the cornerstone for growth (either in an individual or in an idea). Some people argue constructively, some people don't, and you pretty much have to take the good with the bad. So, this being said, I'd have to say that your overzealous, immature attack against anyone who feels the need express a view in opposition to the movie constitutes the pisspoor attitude of non-constructive critism. If YOU don't like what people have to say, you don't have to read it. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 I don't really agree with you that AOTC was the best of all the Star Wars movies, even though I loved it. But I do totally, utterlly and absolutely agree with you that if people are going to come on a forum like this, badmouting SW means they have a deathwish. Never should anti-star wars folk enter this realm of Lucas creation worship. Never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted July 13, 2002 Author Share Posted July 13, 2002 Originally posted by Kryllith Personally, I love the saga and I've grown up with it since I saw Star Wars in theatres during it's initial release. The individual movies have their highs and lows, but overall I find them excellent. For that matter, I'd consider myself near the top of the list when it comes to defending the story and the quality of these movies. I also believe that if you flat out don't like the movies, then you shouldn't watch them. However, I also believe that people have the right to express their opinions as they see fit. They have the right to point out things that irritate them or gripe about perceived inconsistancies. Personally, I prefer it when they do it constructively, since constructive criticism is the cornerstone for growth (either in an individual or in an idea). Some people argue constructively, some people don't, and you pretty much have to take the good with the bad. So, this being said, I'd have to say that your overzealous, immature attack against anyone who feels the need express a view in opposition to the movie constitutes the pisspoor attitude of non-constructive critism. If YOU don't like what people have to say, you don't have to read it. Kryllith i personally thought this was a forum for people who liked star wars and while most of them do, there are those who post about it being the dumbest idea ever, "lucas should've done this cuz this is what I wanted to see in star wars, and since he didn't i'm gonna badmouth all of them" i've read posts where someone badmouths EVERY one of the movies, now i can see badmouthin the one you don't like but, all of them? if you don't like any why are you here? just to piss star wars fans off? i agree people have their own opinion but i was saying that they don't need to constantly bring out the bad points (the SW saga hasn't had many) for an idea not one of these posters would've thought of, or badmouth a movie centered towards kids AND adults, lucas can't make SW like pulp fiction because he knows kids will be watching, notice the lack of cus words and not getting shot in the head/head chopped in half? he doesn't want to scare away the kids and adults that were kids when 4-6 came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 *grins* Well that's better. You're first post just came off as too... combative. Problem is that when people get combative they tend to use an over-the-top, in-your-face attitude when expressing their argument (to the point where it's like listening to people chew out Star Wars because Lucas didn't do things the way they wanted them to be done). I totally agree that this is Lucas's baby and that we ought to be accepting of it, and that those that chew it out for the sake of chewing it out really ought to try and get a life. As for the kids, well a common complaint was that Lucas went a little overboard in TPM as far as trying to appeal to the kids (when most of the people watching the movie would have been teens, college students, and older). I'd have to say that Jar Jar probably should have been toned down just a tad bit, though I really don't have a problem with the character. Afterall, the original trilogy wasn't really aim at children, with the possible exception of the Ewoks of course. George simply wants people of all ages to be able to enjoy the films, but he inadvertantly alienated some of his fans (to this he admits) by being a little to "cutesy" at times in TPM. Course, imho, it didn't hurt the film as a whole. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Mmmmmmmm, i agree that people comin into a Star Wars forum looking to badmouth any of the movies are probably lookin for a fight! I will defend any of the Star Wars movies to the death. (But try to be nice about it, and dont get so mad ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 The name of this forum is "I've seen Episode 2" not "I've seen Episode 2 and I like it". I'll tell you something ep2 Anakin, if everyone in this forum liked everything about star wars, this forum it would be boring as hell. You are obviously lacking intellectual conversation, maybe you can fine tune the skills required here. I really don't mean to flame, I just find this post a bit silly to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernandotabet Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 I see anger in you, my young padawan learner. Be mindful of your thoughts, use the force, think. Let the people have their opinions, accept them and use them to improve your judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted July 13, 2002 Author Share Posted July 13, 2002 yeah, sorry about my first post, i was really pissed off cuz i constantly hear "SW sucks!" and all that ****, but i guess cuz i like it so much i expect other people to like it as much and tend to go overboard when people badmouth it, try to think of it as someone badmouthing your girlfriend (for you guys) right in front of you, you gotta stand up for her (although SW is not my girlfriend) i gotta stand up for it, so sorry to all those who got pissed at my first post , unless you don't like star wars grrr, cuz that post was for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 I didn't mean you can't have an opinion, I just meant that not everyones opinions are the same and while yes many people wish this or that had been done to episode:2, but that's what forums are for to discuss the movie about what we like and dislike. I do think that literally defending the movie with your life or whatever is a little sad, but oh well as long as your happy, well groovy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Originally posted by ep2 Anakin yeah, sorry about my first post, i was really pissed off cuz i constantly hear "SW sucks!" and all that ****, but i guess cuz i like it so much i expect other people to like it as much and tend to go overboard when people badmouth it, try to think of it as someone badmouthing your girlfriend (for you guys) right in front of you, you gotta stand up for her (although SW is not my girlfriend) i gotta stand up for it, so sorry to all those who got pissed at my first post , unless you don't like star wars grrr, cuz that post was for you! Well...I wouldn't elevate Star Wars to that level...but hey...to each his/her own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gun Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Star Wars is good... well, no... it is amazing! But what I can't stand is the people who think that they are a Jedi/Sith, who go around saying "I'm gonna chop you're head off with my lightsaber!" or "I would win because I have Force Lightning!" ect. Watch the films, maybe buy some stuff about it, but don't go as far as "I am Luke Skywalker! The Force is real!" By the way, I would beat you all because I have a Golden Gun... joke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted July 14, 2002 Author Share Posted July 14, 2002 Originally posted by Redwing Well...I wouldn't elevate Star Wars to that level...but hey...to each his/her own i even stated it wasn't my g/f so don't get me wrong, how interesting would that be to watch?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 I'm a member of a SW fanclub where the majority of the "fans" hate the prequels. Makes me so flaming mad... I get flamed in our chatroom because I say AotC is the best SW movie... just today, this guy (who's actually a leader in the club for some effed up constitutional reason even though he does nothing) posted a review of Reign of Fire... now that'd be perfectly alright... I like other movies besides SW... but then he makes this off-hand commend about how he hated SW2. Blech! So what do I do? I defend SW2, I tell him he should be quiet about it if he doesn't like it and not bash it on a SW fanclub board. And I get flamed by half the active members Only reason I'm in that club now is because a couple of my good online friends (who liked SW2) are in it and because it's got a kickarse members-only fan fic library. If any of you true SW fans here are on AOL, then join the Star Wars Unlimited fan club (http://www.swunlimited.net) and help me out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Hey Jedi Monk I would join ya in sticking up for the NT. By now you know in a NT crusader kind of guy;) Is this in starwars.com? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Must.....defend....episode 2!!!! But i'm not on AOL....can i still join in and defend yours and episode 2's honor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Kun II Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 I love the Star Wars movies. They are fun, entertaining, and exciting. If I want a thought provoking film with stupendous acting, I'll watch Gone With The Wind or the Godfather. When I want to kick back and get lost in an astonishing tale of action and nobility, Star Wars is the movie. Now, an interesting review by Mr. Orson Scott Card, author of the classic ENDER'S GAME, for those of you who might not know who he is. http://www.theforce.net/episode2/index.html#17512 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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