Psionic Jedi Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Time to breath some new life into teh age old question: Would a Star Destroyer own a Constitution/Galaxy/Sovereign class vessel from Star Trek? Or would The Star Destroyer be pulverized by Photon Torps and Phasers set to "Frag" (EF). Not the Executor the hella long one that Vader uses but one of those smaller white ones (Victory Class). I think they have an equal chance since the SDs have LOTs and LOTs of turbolasers, meanwhile the Enterprise variants are time tested and from the future in this galaxy and the SDs are from the past in another galaxy. . . plus the Enterprise has neato Phasers, how can you beat that? *Puts on flame retardent suit* Votezor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Omega Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 *Gets out shotgun* *shoots the topic dead* I forsee another Trekkie vs. Warsie war!!! *adds Psionic to his hit list* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 the enterprise would make short work of the star destroyer 1)bigger 2)better wepons 3)better shields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 The Millenium Falcon is the best ship in any SF romp. Maximum ownage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Any person knows that the Enterprise would be destroyed rather quickly, since they have this lame thing called the "Prime Directive". They wouldn't be able to do much before the Empire went postal on them with their SD's......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JrKASperov Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Hmm, I think the Star Destroyer would.. He has too much lasers for the Enterprise... Then again, the Enterprise has perfect aim and could take out the shield towers with ease, then it would become easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 I once saw a scary calculation of this very scenario: Since we see in TESB that such a SD could pulverize a HUGE asteroid with only one laser shot, it was actually calculated(joule, mass etc) that it would disintigrate the ST with one shot as well, smashing its shields apart and blowing the hull.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greedo626 Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 now that I think about it, the enterprise seems kind of short on lasers. SDTs have lots of turbolaser batteries, and the enterprise only hase the one big phaser... this would be kinda bad... although the enterprise can move faster then a SDT... hmmm... thinking about this hurts my head so I'll just say it could never happen... silly rabbit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pad Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Groovy The Millenium Falcon is the best ship in any SF romp. Maximum ownage. im going with that:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 an SSD would pulverise the enterprise an ISD would also pulverise the enterprise a VSD ...... would prolly pulverise it a Frigate (cant spell the name now) .... would prolly lose a Corvette would defo lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CagedCrado Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Star Wars ships (the empires) would own all of the star trek ships, look at the death star, total ownage there. The empire controlled the entire star wars galaxy while the federation only owned half of it at any given time. (or so im told) Star Wars also has countless aliens, all ive ever seen on star trek is things that where rubber on their heads and are little more than deformed people from earth taking revenge on the normal people (if you call a bald man and a bunch of queers normal people, atleast star wars is about a queer little boy and his straight friends) and jedis are the coolest thing in any movie ever, come to think of it the borg were pretty cool, but theyd be lost in space after they meet the deathstar and theyd be as good as dead, floating forever and ever, and if not for ever they will get stuck and be no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres. Screwb Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 OK, here comes the expert witness with his testimony: 1) The enterprises is shielded 100% from pure energy weapons. Lasers would not be able to penetrate the navigational shielding of the enterprise. (Stated clearly in an episode of TNG) 2) The star wars wourld has never encountered particle weapons (phasers). It stands to reason that ISD's have no defense against them. A phaser would pierce the ISD's shielding and destroy the shield generator in a matter of seconds. 3) Corrections: ISD's are 10 times as large as the enterprise. The 'Hella long one that vader uses' is called a 'Super' class star destroyer, the 'little white ones' are Imperial Class Star Destroyers, except for the instance in which Hoth 6 was invaded. There were examples of Victory Class ships there. Just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres. Screwb Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Also, the Death Star would not be able to take out a borg mega cube worth beans. You think in such 3 dimensional terms. The borg don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 indeed borgs can adapt .... but the death star only needs 1 shot there are particle weapons in SW .... what u call a torpedo .... made of particles the enterprise would have the sheilds killed by the TONS of missile launchers SSD's ISD's and VSD's have then ripped to shreds by the turbolasers ..... and thats without unleashing the ties and clarification an SSD ("Super" Class Star Destroyer) is vaders big ship ... invented after the battle of Yavin an ISD ("Imperial" Class Star Destroyer MKII) are the white 1's u see everywhere VSDs ("Victory" Class Star Destroyers) are neva seen in the films ... well ive neva seen em ... if blokey says theyre at hoth they may be ive not looked for em were being replaced by ISD's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Here, I have created a small story to create a battle of a SD vs. the Enterprise. (Dont take into mind the science and facts and things as you read, please) Enjoy! "Hail them, Mr.Worf." Captain Picard said, sitting in his chair. This vessel had appeared out of nothingness, and surprised the entire crew of the Enterprise. Jean-Luc Picard now sat in his chair, trying to make contact. The entire crew looked at the viewscreen, which was full of the image of a long, grey star ship. No one had ever seen anything like it. Was it a threat, or was it friendly? "Channel open, sir." Worf informed the captain. "This is Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the United Federation of Planets star ship Enterprise. You have entered into our territory,and we require an explanation." Captain Picard said, and a moment passed. "Captain Picard, this is Admiral Dokat of the Imperial Fleet Starship Renning. Surrender yourselves, you have been chosen by our emporer to be taken as prisoners. Comply, or you will be destroyed." The transmission ended. "Well they certainly aren't happy people, are they, commander?" Picard asked his first officer, who nodded his head. "Admiral, we will not comply, and what you are doing is considered an act of war." Picard informed him. "You have 10 seconds, and we open fire." The imperial admiral said. "Red alert. Mr. Worf, Are their weapons a threat to us?" Commander Riker asked. "Hard to say. Their ship has some sort of iron I have not seen before, and the scensors cannot penetrate the surface." Worf said. The imperial ship began to fire on the Enterprise in a barrage of red Lazers. The ship shook, and Picard gave the order to return fire. The Phaser banks on the Enterprise gave out a long red beam, which connected with the surface of the Renning. The two massive ships exchanged fire, and the Enterprise's shields began to fail. With one swoop around, the Enterprise Launched a barrage of torpeadoes on the Renning's hull. Several small explosions began to take effect, and the star destroyer, with a bright yellow, exploded. "I guess we will never know who they are, or what this "Empire" is...." Commander Riker said, as he sat back in his chair. "Cancel Red Alert." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 2 things .... imperial lasers are GREEN and theyd open fire with Lasers Ties and Torpedos ... and missiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-[MotU]-Lyger|=- Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 this pole is SOOOO lame im not even going to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 I've only seen the Enterprise fire in a 190 degree arch. Launch all TIE fighters and TIE bombers, get behind the arch while the SD takes most of the punishment, then drop some bombs on the Enterprise' rear section. Those warp engines go up pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Originally posted by Jedi_Monk I've only seen the Enterprise fire in a 190 degree arch. Launch all TIE fighters and TIE bombers, get behind the arch while the SD takes most of the punishment, then drop some bombs on the Enterprise' rear section. Those warp engines go up pretty good. But there are rear torpeado cannons and rear phaser banks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 the phasers would neva hit a tie ... not even a bomber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Warrior Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Man, any poll that is to do with Star Wars vs Star Trek, Star Wars will always win. Yoda vs the enteprise - yoda wins Jar Jar Binks vs Enterprise - maybe the enterprise wins Star wars is by far a better in every respect, for me the only cool thing in Star Trek is the Holodeck (hmmm where is my ferrari holodeck program????) The guns in star wars look sooooo much better too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Originally posted by Jah Warrior Man, any poll that is to do with Star Wars vs Star Trek, Star Wars will always win. Yoda vs the enteprise - yoda wins Jar Jar Binks vs Enterprise - maybe the enterprise wins Star wars is by far a better in every respect, for me the only cool thing in Star Trek is the Holodeck (hmmm where is my ferrari holodeck program????) The guns in star wars look sooooo much better too. Guns look better in STar Wars? Lets not get into the German Pistol wrapped in duct-tape And for the person who said a Phaser would never hit a tie, you need to watch more Trek. The Enterprise's Targeting system is 100% accurate....... *feels very geeky* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forinec Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 What the heck is this?! Star Wars and Star Trek go their own seperate ways and were probably never meant to head each other off in a duel to the finish anyway. Star Wars= Intense action, adventure, fate, cool stuff. Star Trek= Strategy, problem solving, exploration. I favor Star Wars, that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 theres no way it could hit a target moving that fast and this is starting to sound like ... star trek is perfect (100% laser protection and 100% accuracy) ..... which is sumthing i dont like ... its unrealistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Warrior Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Forgot to mention the most important factor:- COOLNESS star trek is about as cool as a summer afternoon in hell. In comparison the star Trek ships just look pooh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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