lionknight Posted October 6, 2002 Posted October 6, 2002 Sounds like great stuff, how about the grapple how is it modified? If you want to keep it a secret untill the mod comes out I understand, great job anyway.
razorace Posted October 6, 2002 Posted October 6, 2002 Originally posted by Padawan_7 Hey Darth_Syrup, I have another question. Is there anyway to make bots say an occasional taunt while fighting in mp, and could you incorporate this feature in your mod? They already do that!
Padawan_7 Posted October 6, 2002 Posted October 6, 2002 Originally posted by razorace They already do that! Umm...I don't think so, not for multiplayer. It does happen, however, in single player. But one thing you might be thinking of is when a custom made model is used as a bot in mp and has line of dialog set for it's pain sound (i.e. Darth Tyranus). The bot will say this dialog when injured and that could be misunderstood as a taunt.
TheWhiteRaider Posted October 6, 2002 Author Posted October 6, 2002 Umm...I don't think so, not for multiplayer. It does happen, however, in single player. Razor is talking about text taunts not audio and other taunts.
Azymn Posted October 6, 2002 Posted October 6, 2002 how about the grapple how is it modified? you can bind it to any key, when fired it launches towards target without holding the button, and stays hooked until you press the button again. And right now i'm working on getting it to stop reeling in mid-pull so you can swing on it. It uses Tercero's grapple model, and hopefully will have a line drawn too
razorace Posted October 6, 2002 Posted October 6, 2002 Originally posted by TheWhiteRaider Razor is talking about text taunts not audio and other taunts. So what type of taunts IS he talking about then?
lionknight Posted October 6, 2002 Posted October 6, 2002 Is there no way to get the grapple to hook an enemy and pull them down, maybe it can be used in combiination with force pull. A disguised force pull? Or maybe have a saw or something come out and fly towards enemy causing dismemberment sometimes. Thanks, looking foward to your new mod. Great work
Padawan_7 Posted October 6, 2002 Posted October 6, 2002 Originally posted by razorace So what type of taunts IS he talking about then? I was talking about audio taunts and not text taunts (they already use the text taunts).
razorace Posted October 6, 2002 Posted October 6, 2002 Oh, ok. I'm sure it's possible. However, you'd have to add (an)additional perameter(s) to the bot files and create new sound files.
Padawan_7 Posted October 6, 2002 Posted October 6, 2002 Originally posted by razorace Oh, ok. I'm sure it's possible. However, you'd have to add (an)additional perameter(s) to the bot files and create new sound files. No, models already come with verbal taunts.
razorace Posted October 6, 2002 Posted October 6, 2002 well, that's true. But it would require an additional setting in the bot files, unless you just make it randomly say one of the model taunt sounds...
TheWhiteRaider Posted October 8, 2002 Author Posted October 8, 2002 One thing that would be nice about the graple hook is that you use one button to fire the hook and then the USE button to pull yourself in. That way you could choose to swing or not to swing. (This idea was off of a JK1 mod) I don't know how hard this would be, but it could be good.
razorace Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 You mean an actual swinging grapple hook? It could be possible, depends on the how the engine would handle it I imagine.
TheWhiteRaider Posted October 8, 2002 Author Posted October 8, 2002 In JK1 there was a mod that had that kind of hook. What you did was shoot the hook and reel it in as close as you wanted then you could swing like say Luke and Leia did in the first movie. Or you could reel it in further and go to the grapple point.
Azymn Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 The hook i'm working on will start pulling you after it's anchored, just like before, but when you push the grapple button again, it stops pulling and the grapple remains at that length, allowing you to swing. You can then continue to retract it by pressing a separate button, or disengage it by pressing the grapple button a 3rd time. If any of you have tried ChaosUT, it will hopefully be similar to theirs. It's not quite there, the math is tricky
blah2k Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 Darth_Syrup, I'm sure you have probably already taken care of this, but I noticed there is an animation for the skeleton where Kyle is sliding in Yavin_Trial, it looks like it would be a pretty nice animation for when dragging players with the grapple hook.
Azymn Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 At this point i don't think the players will be draggable with the hook, but if i ever add that feature, i'll take a look at that anim.
blah2k Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 Ah, ok. I wasn't sure because I thought I saw a post in the coding forum where someone made it possible to drag players with a grapple hook, but I could be wrong. The features that you are including in the next version of the Forcemod sound amazing, I cannot wait to engage in some lan action with those dual pistols . Great work on the Forcemod 1.0, that and the Saberist mods are my personal favorites.
razorace Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 Originally posted by Darth_Syrup The hook i'm working on will start pulling you after it's anchored, just like before, but when you push the grapple button again, it stops pulling and the grapple remains at that length, allowing you to swing. You can then continue to retract it by pressing a separate button, or disengage it by pressing the grapple button a 3rd time. If any of you have tried ChaosUT, it will hopefully be similar to theirs. It's not quite there, the math is tricky Won't that require a keybuffer? You could probably just make it so you can disengages the grapple if you press both buttons at once.
Azymn Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 Won't that require a keybuffer? No, just some PMF flags and eFlags - they cycle through grapple 'states'. It's already up and running, but the physics for the swinging portion aren't worked out yet.
razorace Posted October 8, 2002 Posted October 8, 2002 Doh! I forgot about that. But in that case, how do you pull the line in more if you let go of the pull/fire button once? How complicated are you going with the line physics? Straight line physics or bendable lines?
Azymn Posted October 9, 2002 Posted October 9, 2002 But in that case, how do you pull the line in more if you let go of the pull/fire button once? A different button, probably USE, since they shouldn't need it while hanging in the air. How complicated are you going with the line physics? Straight line physics or bendable lines? Just straight, nothing too tricky.
Kyle098 Posted October 9, 2002 Posted October 9, 2002 hmmm i dont know if this would be possible but it would look awsome if the grapple went out not in a strait line but in a wavey line like ion the movies:) i am pretty sure that isnt possible though,well unless you make animations for the line. hey darth_syrup are you ever going to release the source code to anything of that?
Padawan_7 Posted October 9, 2002 Posted October 9, 2002 I think if you should implement a grapple (in the future) that effects other players upon contact, the grapple should freeze the player in that spot (or cause the player to move very slowly) for a certain amount of time while preventing the player from switching weapons as if the player was tangled up. This method would be much more accurate to ROTJ. And if you were to make a grapple like this, it would be nice to see the fett bots use it in the above manner. (Yes, I only have a 56K modem, which means I never get the chance to play against real players.)
Azymn Posted October 9, 2002 Posted October 9, 2002 Kyle098 - Someday. And whatever kind of grapple the one i'm making ends up as, i'll work to get the bots to use it in some way or another.
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